The renewable energy changes and policy

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Somethings coming out of the labs just improve production and capacity of existing and future batteries, like this and new electrolytes for Li-ion batteries or new ways of adding more magnesium to LFP batteries to greatly improve their power density. There is money to be made just in making anodes or cathodes for batteries or their materials and especially in improving them. These innovations can make it to the marketplace a lot faster than a new battery technology built from the ground up and produced at an economical price.

A strategy to design lithium anode interlayer for all-solid-state lithium-metal batteries

Over the past decades, engineers and chemists have been working to develop increasingly advanced battery technologies that could help to meet the rising demands of the electronics industry. This has led to the emergence of new types of batteries, including all-solid-state batteries.

techxplore.com

 

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Keep an open mind and follow the data, but take other factors into account too, like the falling price of chemical storage with iron air and flow batteries providing base loads. If it is viable, it can be turned into a profit-making business, it's as simple as that, but it is nice to know a lot of other options are available to store renewables energy. Like the solar water distillation paper, engineers and capitalists will look at it to see if a business can be made of it, it is the only way the technology would be used.

Solar water distillation is in a unique position for rapid growth however, with a convergence of need, and money to be found in the middle east. If it works and works well, it will take off and found a large industry. Nothing is patented and it is wide open for development too, I expect we will hear more about this in the next couple of years.

Compressed air energy storage systems could replace conventional batteries as energy providers, say scientists

A group of scientists have found compressed air energy storage systems to have the potential of replacing conventional electrochemical batteries as a cheaper alternative, and with better storage capacity that is even sufficient to keep AC gadgets running.

techxplore.com

 

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Across America, clean energy plants are being banned faster than they're being built

The clock is ticking toward a deadline to meet renewable-energy standards. But USA TODAY's analysis finds local governments banning wind turbines, solar plants.

www.usatoday.com

 

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It's pretty regular and if it can lay flat on the bottom during storms and to avoid ice and is above all else durable, it might be something we can use. Harnessing wave power is a very hard thing to do, and storms can wreck things pretty fast, the sea under the influence of wind and weather has a lot of power, power to destroy damn near anything. As with all things in harsh conditions with moving parts, maintenance is a consideration and might only be done in summer or during calm weather. If they build it, they had better build it to take a pounding because it surely will.

We have plenty of options for renewable energy generation and storage, it might not all be wind, solar and batteries, the lowest cost per watt usually wins, but when it is generated and how regularly counts too. Harness the waves of the ocean crashing on the shores of the land and you can generate an awful lot of power at a pretty constant rate. Doing it cheaply enough to compete with wind and solar is the problem for them and fossil fuels and it will be more of a problem into the future. These technologies like solar and LFP batteries are scaling up, getting even cheaper and will become entrenched incumbents of the new energy industry.

WaveRoller sea-floor generator is ready for commercial use

Waveroller, an ocean-friendly energy solution that has been in the works for 31 years, is ready to electrify the world with sea-bed-based power generation.

interestingengineering.com

31 year old sea-floor generator tech will soon begin commercial operation
The Waveroller is making waves in harnessing reliable and predictable wave power for a sustainable tomorrow.

 

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Don't forget ebikes, scooters and small urban 3 wheelers in warm countries, they provide cheap transportation to billions of people. That $720 for an EV is the annual cost of charging it and maintenance as compared to an ICE car, if you have solar and charge at home then transportation energy can be free. In about 3 years I figure EVs will be significantly cheaper than the equivalent ICE car, except for higher end models that use more energy dense batteries. If you wanna go electric forget the monster truck or SUV and go small and efficient or spend a lot of time and money pumping kilowatts into the beast from a home charger that needs a 200-amp electrical entrance. A small car can be charged from home on your existing electrical entrance and can top up a lot of range overnight.

It's All About To Happen Down Under!!
Ahead of this weekend's first Everything Electric AUSTRALIA expo in Sydney, Robert has pulled together his selection of topical News stories, including some stinky goings on in an EV transport vessel, a V2L set up that saved lives and the bikes that are saving the burning of 1 million barrels of oil a day!

 

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In about 3 years I figure EVs will be significantly cheaper than the equivalent ICE car, except for higher end models that use more energy dense batteries.

Repeating "I figure" umpteen times does not make reality. Time to start citing evidence to show how you are coming to that conclusion, and not just because Tony Seba says so. Citing what CATL is claiming they can produce per kWh does not make EV's significantly cheaper, unless you think we're just going to be floating on ions? Is the rubber used in EV tires less expensive? What about the cost of steel, or stamping, or electronics, etc.? It appears 'the cost to build a robot to build more robots, to build lots of robots for free' logic is being applied.

If you wanna go electric forget the monster truck or SUV and go small and efficient or spend a lot of time and money pumping kilowatts into the beast from a home charger that needs a 200-amp electrical entrance. A small car can be charged from home on your existing electrical entrance and can top up a lot of range overnight.

A compact crossover is coming for America's pickup trucks. Here are the top-selling cars of 2023

Sales of the Toyota RAV4 compact crossover came within 10,000 units of Stellantis' Ram pickup truck last year.

www.cnbc.com

So not a single small car made it into the top ten best selling vehicles in the US. Four pickup trucks and Jeep Grand Cherokee made it though, so how do you figure all these people will happily switch to a small EV/scooter? Gas is already expensive, yet they keep selling like crazy. If we start applying the same logic you have been using in this thread, gas should be getting cheaper in the near future and eventually become a negative asset once supply >> demand. The logical thought is why would they keep pumping oil if they are not making money?, which I would agree with; why wouldn't that apply to solar panels or batteries?

I understand the desire to promote electrification, but the attitude like the presenter in the video above does the exact opposite for me. I wouldn't be surprised to start hearing about the health benefits of the extra insect protein if one keeps their mouth open while riding an electric scooter as just another additional benefit. Climate change and world hunger: solved by Miracle Scooter.

 

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Repeating "I figure" umpteen times does not make reality. Time to start citing evidence to show how you are coming to that conclusion, and not just because Tony Seba says so. Citing what CATL is claiming they can produce per kWh does not make EV's significantly cheaper, unless you think we're just going to be floating on ions? Is the rubber used in EV tires less expensive? What about the cost of steel, or stamping, or electronics, etc.? It appears 'the cost to build a robot to build more robots, to build lots of robots for free' logic is being applied.

A compact crossover is coming for America's pickup trucks. Here are the top-selling cars of 2023

Sales of the Toyota RAV4 compact crossover came within 10,000 units of Stellantis' Ram pickup truck last year.

www.cnbc.com

So not a single small car made it into the top ten best selling vehicles in the US. Four pickup trucks and Jeep Grand Cherokee made it though, so how do you figure all these people will happily switch to a small EV/scooter? Gas is already expensive, yet they keep selling like crazy. If we start applying the same logic you have been using in this thread, gas should be getting cheaper in the near future and eventually become a negative asset once supply >> demand. The logical thought is why would they keep pumping oil if they are not making money?, which I would agree with; why wouldn't that apply to solar panels or batteries?

I understand the desire to promote electrification, but the attitude like the presenter in the video above does the exact opposite for me. I wouldn't be surprised to start hearing about the health benefits of the extra insect protein if one keeps their mouth open while riding an electric scooter as just another additional benefit. Climate change and world hunger: solved by Miracle Scooter.

Here, commuting or getting the groceries cannot be done in/on a vehicle that is not operable on the freeway.

E-motorbikes are frightfully expensive and have less range than my neighbor’s body odor. Worsta both worlds.

 

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Repeating "I figure" umpteen times does not make reality. Time to start citing evidence to show how you are coming to that conclusion, and not just because Tony Seba says so. Citing what CATL is claiming they can produce per kWh does not make EV's significantly cheaper, unless you think we're just going to be floating on ions? Is the rubber used in EV tires less expensive? What about the cost of steel, or stamping, or electronics, etc.? It appears 'the cost to build a robot to build more robots, to build lots of robots for free' logic is being applied.

A compact crossover is coming for America's pickup trucks. Here are the top-selling cars of 2023

Sales of the Toyota RAV4 compact crossover came within 10,000 units of Stellantis' Ram pickup truck last year.

www.cnbc.com

So not a single small car made it into the top ten best selling vehicles in the US. Four pickup trucks and Jeep Grand Cherokee made it though, so how do you figure all these people will happily switch to a small EV/scooter? Gas is already expensive, yet they keep selling like crazy. If we start applying the same logic you have been using in this thread, gas should be getting cheaper in the near future and eventually become a negative asset once supply >> demand. The logical thought is why would they keep pumping oil if they are not making money?, which I would agree with; why wouldn't that apply to solar panels or batteries?

I understand the desire to promote electrification, but the attitude like the presenter in the video above does the exact opposite for me. I wouldn't be surprised to start hearing about the health benefits of the extra insect protein if one keeps their mouth open while riding an electric scooter as just another additional benefit. Climate change and world hunger: solved by Miracle Scooter.

I'm looking at the fact that CATL announced it for June and they are currently building LFP battery turnkey factories in America and selling them to the likes of Ford as turnkey operations. In a couple of years, they should be in production along with others, the articles were recently posted to this thread. The pundits say there is a coming battery price war and global prices for such things tend to be levelized quickly. They claim they will be selling LFP batteries for $56/kWh and breakeven for an equivalent ICE vehicle is around $80. The stated plan is to come in through Mexico and eastern Europe with battery and assembly plants while making deals with American and European automakers.

As for the fully electric fanatics I agree with some of what they say and figure North American half tons are behemoths, but if someone wants to buy one or needs one I'm ok with it. If all the city folks are driving EVs, then it takes the heat off the few who need to use an ICE vehicle.

I post some of this stuff as an example of the kinds of promotion and product reviews that are out there. We are going EV and most cheap and midsized cars are gonna use LFP batteries for a while, they are cheap and barely good enough but apparently work well at -30F.

IMO batteries over 1kWh per liter would do the trick, but we are aways from that yet, but there will be more energy dense ones in the more expensive cars. One implication of $56/kWh LFP batteries made in America is they get a $35/kWh subsidy from the US government and that would make them less than $25kWh and kill the new battery types coming to market. The subsidy will have to exclude LMF batteries and even Li-ion batteries in order to foster better batteries. That is the kind of policy this thread is about, other than that it covers emerging tech that stands a chance of changing the world in the next decade or so.

I'm largely posting on what is being done in the field of renewable energy and even food production, what is being done in general to address climate change. It also covers the geopolitical struggle between America and China over batteries and solar panels with us paying over 200% tariffs, that is policy too. Solar distillation is another thing that I can change the world for billions of people and I expect to hear more about it over the next couple of years since the paper was only publisher in October.

Climate change has turned into business and economics with the drop in renewable energy prices and the desire of all countries for energy independence and security. Green is the color of money now and there are tangible benefits for vastly more people by going electric than the problems of a few.

 

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Here, commuting or getting the groceries cannot be done in/on a vehicle that is not operable on the freeway.

E-motorbikes are frightfully expensive and have less range than my neighbor’s body odor. Worsta both worlds.

For billions though they are a means of transportation in warm countries and cut gas use by the most. This is a global issue and that is why I post about the global situation.

 

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For billions though they are a means of transportation in warm countries and cut gas use by the most. This is a global issue and that is why I post about the global situation.

Billions? How many in Africa have ICE vehicles that should be replaced by EVs?

And charged how, in the least electrified continent (barring Antarctica) on the planet?

This is a good example where some numbers would generate perspective on a glittering but vague claim.

 

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Billions? How many in Africa have ICE vehicles that should be replaced by EVs?

And charged how, in the least electrified continent (barring Antarctica) on the planet?

This is a good example where some numbers would generate perspective on a glittering but vague claim.

India, Africa and southeast Asia, south and central America not to mention parts of southern China, these people are hitting the roads in increasing numbers and cheap Chinese EVs will accelerate that, most countries don't have tariffs and they basically pay Chinese prices for EVs and solar panels. There are over 8 billion people on planet earth and the vast majority of them live in warm climates, scooters and other such small EVs have displaced the most gasoline of any type of EV so far. We are only at the beginning of this stuff, early stages.

 

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Back to food and something of note on the path to biotech food and perhaps the end of livestock agriculture, exactly when is hard to say.

Cow free milk 1.0

First Precision Fermentation Dairy Protein Approved in Canada
Remilk's β-Lactoglobulin protein (one of the proteins found in whey) has been approved in Canada. They are now looking for a partner to help launch and distribute their product.

 

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Here, commuting or getting the groceries cannot be done in/on a vehicle that is not operable on the freeway.

E-motorbikes are frightfully expensive and have less range than my neighbor’s body odor. Worsta both worlds.

There are some nice bikes like the Energica Eva Ribelle, but you're correct on cost and range. With so much change happening what appears to be daily, I would argue it is still in the gimmick phase and industry hasn't settled on a sustainable path, let alone rendering ICE vehicles obsolete by 2050 (there is no way by 2035, the manufacturers haven't got shortages from 2020 - of tech they already know - sorted out yet FFS). I would love to be wrong - but I have my doubts.

 

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There are some nice bikes like the Energica Eva Ribelle, but you're correct on cost and range. With so much change happening what appears to be daily, I would argue it is still in the gimmick phase and industry hasn't settled on a sustainable path, let alone rendering ICE vehicles obsolete by 2050 (there is no way by 2035, the manufacturers haven't got shortages from 2020 - of tech they already know - sorted out yet FFS). I would love to be wrong - but I have my doubts.

I try to casually check what is going on in the industry and there is a lot going on, technically, economically and politicly. In most places the adoption rate has been much higher than North America. The governments have their policies, and they are pretty uniform about 2035 and ICE vehicle sales, but if the industry isn't there, those policies will likely change or be adjusted.

From the reports I've seen LFP batteries will dominate sectors of the auto market based on price and cold weather performance (at least for some types. Solid state has several companies producing them, or trying to scale production, but there are issues with scaling. I'm not opposed to ICE cars, I have one myself, for now, but the writing is on the wall for ICE vehicles and that much is plain to see, when exactly is anybody's guess. There are industry predictions and price announcements however and $56kWh would change the game on EV pricing and make EVs cheaper than the alternative by a significant amount. That price is in China this June, but they are selling the factories and expertise in how to build them, if they can't sell the batteries, they will sell the equipment, factories and even train the staff.

Why I think the development is significant is it will lower the price of EVs when it hits North America and lower prices mean higher adoption rates. Globally it means those cheap Chinese batteries and EVs will be sold in most countries starting this year. It's a global issue and I like to look at it globally as much as I can.

 

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Your fence could power your house and car! Good for the duck curve and agrivoltaics, they can farm between the rows of vertical panels and get dual use from the land. Some rural counties will be against it, but they will be up against those farmers in their county who want to use it for economic reasons, to sell power to utilities or rent land of wind turbines.

Have we been doing Solar wrong all along?

You're probably used to solar installations that look like this - solar panels facing up towards the sky, which makes sense. You want a wider area to catch more of that sweet solar energy, right? However, bifacial vertical solar panels have started to gain traction recently. Their more flexible-footprint has innovators in Canada, Norway and elsewhere testing them in all kinds of weird scenarios. People who are using these panels are reporting something odd – higher energy yield than expected. The extra yield stumped engineers, but a recent Dutch study may shed some light on the source of this extra energy. Have we been doing solar panels wrong this whole time, or is it all just a miscalculation? And how could this tech impact our lives?

 

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A factory in Holland is 3D printing 500 tonnes of steaks a month

Would consider trying 3D printed meat? This company certainly thinks you should. Redefine Meat is changing the meat alternatives game.

theheartysoul.com

Nom nom?

Still doesn't look like something I'll try.

 

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A factory in Holland is 3D printing 500 tonnes of steaks a month

Would consider trying 3D printed meat? This company certainly thinks you should. Redefine Meat is changing the meat alternatives game.

theheartysoul.com

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Nom nom?

Still doesn't look like something I'll try.

I would! Bonus: feedstocks are vegan.

This tech will only improve (that meat needs better marbling), and is a boon for folks like me who like our moo but are aware of its high impact on the environment. Not to mention the problematic ethics of killing conscious things for my food.

I await vegan sashimi that would fool a Tokyo fishmonger.

 

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A factory in Holland is 3D printing 500 tonnes of steaks a month

Would consider trying 3D printed meat? This company certainly thinks you should. Redefine Meat is changing the meat alternatives game.

theheartysoul.com

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Nom nom?

Still doesn't look like something I'll try.

Holy shit! 500 hundred tons a month! Jesus Christ, what are their costs?

I thought it was cell cultured from the pics, but appears to be a combo of cell and processed vegetable protein.

 

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Holy shit! 500 hundred tons a month! Jesus Christ, what are their costs?

Probably almost all capitalization. Once the capital equipment is amortized, expect it to drop below real. (fistpump)

How Expensive Is 3D Printed Meat?

Additive manufacturing, also referred to as three-dimensional (3D) printing is a rapidly evolving industry that has greatly benefitted the food production industry. Some of these benefits include the capacity to modify food's nutrition, flavor, and texture and the economic viability of...

www.nikkoindustries.com

 

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Holy shit! 500 hundred tons a month! Jesus Christ, what are their costs?

No idea. They raised hundreds of millions in funding a few years ago, but the revenue is already estimated to be half of that per year. Their products are served in thousands of restaurants across the world. Including a well-known restaurant chain in NL that prides itself on offering the best steaks (Loetje). Also at the largest groceries chain in NL, though currently only online, as well as in many places in the UK and Belgium. Depending on the source, it retails for about the price of medium expensive meat. So not cheap, not very pricey either.