the republicans must reinvent or go extinct

ChesusRice

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Right. Pissing away thousands of dollars a month without building any equity is so much better. lol

Well I have a house that owns me for 1200 a month.
No deciding to just up an move if we want
Our last place we rented for 8 years 500 a month with a garage and a basement
The landlord was 80 years old and for 5 months a year was out of state in florida

Home ownership has it's perks
But it aint all that
 

Samwell Seed Well

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Well I have a house that owns me for 1200 a month.
No deciding to just up an move if we want
Our last place we rented for 8 years 500 a month with a garage and a basement
The landlord was 80 years old and for 5 months a year was out of state in florida

Home ownership has it's perks
But it aint all that
no its all that
 

abandonconflict

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The GOP needs another actor, the last actor they had was so good, that he is remembered as some kind of good president, despite that he was probably one of the worst in history.

 

Carne Seca

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The GOP needs another actor, the last actor they had was so good, that he is remembered as some kind of good president, despite that he was probably one of the worst in history.

They have a young hopeful. A Republican John F. Kennedy if you will. His name is, George P. Bush. Feelers are already going out and his name is popping up randomly in the media. They have one big obstacle. His face.



durrrr...



duhhhh.. look at teh purty lites!



La rasa! Y'all.... shoooooot.

He has one thing going for him that Romney didn't. He doesn't have to use a spray on tan to look ethnic.
 

Padawanbater2

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It seems like the majority of the GOP has swayed more to the right, towards the Tea Party, to avoid any sort of seeming collusion with the Dem's on the left as to not alienate their base of strict conservatives. The problem is, their base is dying, it's made up almost exclusively of old, white, well off Republicans. The majority of the US is no longer white or well off. I think they fear losing the only people that support them by leaning even slightly more left, but I don't understand the logic in going even further right, as there doesn't seem to be anyone further right to recruit. Where are the Republican strategists with answers for this? Are they telling reps. to go even further right? Where is the logic in that strategy?

If the GOP would enact a conservative fiscal policy, which includes the defense budget, endorse a realistic approach to eliminating or reducing the deficit, and adopt liberal social policies on things like drugs, abortion and homosexuality, the 2016 election would be a goddamn avalanche in their favor. Fuck the Tea Party voters, they would quickly become the minority of their voting base.

The Dem's. should make some changes too in order to be competitive to such a GOP platform, imo, that would damn near be unbeatable, regardless of Obama's next term. Some serious changes definitely need to be made in both parties if the goal is to benefit the American people and not a specific American economic class.

Maybe we even need a third party, or fourth or fifth. It seems, and has always seemed my entire life, as if we need to appreciate the good but also accept the bad. Why? Why not just demand every aspect of the party is the good? Third party candidates have this opportunity, and they need to get organized and start now, not in 3 years when election time rolls around and nobody knows who they are, now.

A fiscally conservative, socially liberal party is exactly what we need. People smart enough to know how, why and when to spend taxpayers money who don't get involved in peoples personal lives. People who understand the true roll the government should play, and people who protect American freedoms and the Constitution whenever they're threatened.

Republicans, Democrats, The Libertarian Party, The Green Party, The Independent Party...

How about the American Party?
 

smokinrav

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George P Bush, the Republican Obama in a few years after the GOP "reorganization".

And won't that display be just sickening for those of us who know better.
 

UncleBuck

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They have a young hopeful. A Republican John F. Kennedy if you will. His name is, George P. Bush. Feelers are already going out and his name is popping up randomly in the media. They have one big obstacle. His face.



durrrr...



duhhhh.. look at teh purty lites!



La rasa! Y'all.... shoooooot.

He has one thing going for him that Romney didn't. He doesn't have to use a spray on tan to look ethnic.
does the "P" signify the trickle down?
 

ChesusRice

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It seems like the majority of the GOP has swayed more to the right, towards the Tea Party, to avoid any sort of seeming collusion with the Dem's on the left as to not alienate their base of strict conservatives.

The Republicans moved to the .............................money.
And the money this year was with the Kochs (birchers) Armey (tea party) and Rove (neo cons and business)
There was some small amounts from the Christian Taliban (family matters, the fellowship et al) but a lot of christians just didnt have the enthusiasm to back a mormon this year with either their vote or their money
and that is the way it went down
 

ginwilly

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It seems like the majority of the GOP has swayed more to the right, towards the Tea Party, to avoid any sort of seeming collusion with the Dem's on the left as to not alienate their base of strict conservatives. The problem is, their base is dying, it's made up almost exclusively of old, white, well off Republicans. The majority of the US is no longer white or well off. I think they fear losing the only people that support them by leaning even slightly more left, but I don't understand the logic in going even further right, as there doesn't seem to be anyone further right to recruit. Where are the Republican strategists with answers for this? Are they telling reps. to go even further right? Where is the logic in that strategy?

If the GOP would enact a conservative fiscal policy, which includes the defense budget, endorse a realistic approach to eliminating or reducing the deficit, and adopt liberal social policies on things like drugs, abortion and homosexuality, the 2016 election would be a goddamn avalanche in their favor. Fuck the Tea Party voters, they would quickly become the minority of their voting base.

The Dem's. should make some changes too in order to be competitive to such a GOP platform, imo, that would damn near be unbeatable, regardless of Obama's next term. Some serious changes definitely need to be made in both parties if the goal is to benefit the American people and not a specific American economic class.

Maybe we even need a third party, or fourth or fifth. It seems, and has always seemed my entire life, as if we need to appreciate the good but also accept the bad. Why? Why not just demand every aspect of the party is the good? Third party candidates have this opportunity, and they need to get organized and start now, not in 3 years when election time rolls around and nobody knows who they are, now.

A fiscally conservative, socially liberal party is exactly what we need. People smart enough to know how, why and when to spend taxpayers money who don't get involved in peoples personal lives. People who understand the true roll the government should play, and people who protect American freedoms and the Constitution whenever they're threatened.

Republicans, Democrats, The Libertarian Party, The Green Party, The Independent Party...

How about the American Party?
I agree with almost all of this except the beginning. I've heard the left claiming the GOP has been hijacked and moved so far right that they are becoming a dinosaur brand. The brand hurting is true, but when you compare McCain and Romney to the conservatives they defeated I would have to disagree. The primary voters who are supposed to be the most hardcore have elected the most moderate choice most recently, that doesn't prove a move to the right to me.

I wasn't a fan of Romney, he reminded me of every boss I hated, but he did say two things that stuck out to me.
1. Leave health care to the states, which would give us 50 laboratories to find best solutions instead of one. I'm not a fan of central planning. What's best for Miss might not be what's best for Minn.
2. Is it worth borrowing money from China to have programX. If it is, keep it and fix it, if it's not, cut it. I think that's a fair litmus test.
 
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