Capitalism 2.0 Will Include a Healthy Dose of Socialism

Roger A. Shrubber

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Do you even listen to yourself?

Do you think before you open your mouth?

How in the fuck can you defend a system where 40% of Americans are living in poverty and a tiny few are outlandishly rich- yet pay nothing back to our society?

You AREN'T thinking at all; you've swallowed the neoliberal line of bullshit hook, line and sinker.
because i don't think open revolt is the answer....but i don't know exactly what else to do. if i tell all the politicians in the country to gtfo...they won't.....if i tell them to quit taking bribes from big busineses....they won't.....so just exactly what am i supposed to do tty?
you keep telling all of us what's wrong...but i've yet to hear how you intend to fix it....by not voting? we all know there is shit very very wrong....we might not all agree on the exact nature of those problems, but pretty much everyone agrees that problems do indeed exist....what i'm looking for is viable alternatives....and i'm not finding many.....fuck, i'm not finding any......
 

londonfog

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because i don't think open revolt is the answer....but i don't know exactly what else to do. if i tell all the politicians in the country to gtfo...they won't.....if i tell them to quit taking bribes from big busineses....they won't.....so just exactly what am i supposed to do tty?
you keep telling all of us what's wrong...but i've yet to hear how you intend to fix it....by not voting? we all know there is shit very very wrong....we might not all agree on the exact nature of those problems, but pretty much everyone agrees that problems do indeed exist....what i'm looking for is viable alternatives....and i'm not finding many.....fuck, i'm not finding any......
This dude can't even raise his child. do you really think he has an answer for anything real ?
 

Padawanbater2

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that's exactly what i just said.....vote for the least harmful candidate....that would be the one that best represents your interests, even if they don't represent very many of them....even if NONE of them directly represent your particular interests...you still pick the one that's going to cause the least amount of shit to hit the fan....
This is the dumbest bullshit ever

Vote for the person who doesn't represent you a little bit less than the other guy

If you keep voting for the person who represents you most out of the least, you will keep ending up with people in office who don't give a fuck about climate change. Who barely support LGBTQ rights, who support defunding Planned Parenthood.

Stop voting for these people. You are causing real harm by giving these people a voice in office because you think they're the best option in a field filled with fucking morons.Voting for the least harmful candidate in an election where nobody is harmless is like voting for the least corrupt politician in the race for Republican president..
 

Padawanbater2

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because i don't think open revolt is the answer....but i don't know exactly what else to do. if i tell all the politicians in the country to gtfo...they won't.....if i tell them to quit taking bribes from big busineses....they won't.....so just exactly what am i supposed to do tty?
you keep telling all of us what's wrong...but i've yet to hear how you intend to fix it....by not voting? we all know there is shit very very wrong....we might not all agree on the exact nature of those problems, but pretty much everyone agrees that problems do indeed exist....what i'm looking for is viable alternatives....and i'm not finding many.....fuck, i'm not finding any......
Stop supporting liars in congress

Think of someone you like in congress. Do they accept big donations from corporate donors? If they do, stop supporting them.

It's that simple
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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This dude can't even raise his child. do you really think he has an answer for anything real ?
i hope someone does.....open revolt slowly becomes a little more viable as trump makes things worse and worse, and the democrats drag their feet on getting him out of office.
i'd like a real candidate to appear. i don't care if it's a man or a woman, i don't care if they're white, black, yellow, brown or red.....someone who doesn't have any real skeletons to hide....someone who has both a sense of morals and ethics, and the ability to broker large deals with other nations...someone who can keep the economy alive, while not killing the poor......someone who cares about the security of our country, but doesn't think that security means isolationism, or nationalism, or hating anyone.....
the problem is anyone who has the qualifications i want, would never take the job....they wouldn't want to immerse themselves daily into the filth that flows through Washington d.c.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Stop supporting liars in congress

Think of someone you like in congress. Do they accept big donations from corporate donors? If they do, stop supporting them.

It's that simple
well then, who do i support? do i just quit supporting anyone? then who gets to pick? if you don't pick the lesser of two evils, then you have nothing to say......you are still responsible, you made the choice of not choosing, so you share the culpability for the acts of those people you allowed to take office....that's how i see it....you were given a choice in an important matter....if you make no choice, it's the same as saying "you all decide how i'll live my life, and i'll bitch, but i'll do it, because i'm too lazy to care".....so i try to pick the best choice out of a field of bad choices....what do you do when there is no good choice? because the people you didn't elect aren't going to be sitting on their hands waiting for you to do something, they'll be digging in like ticks, they'll be pushing policy through that will not be good for anyone but them, they'll be making deals with other crooks to both protect and enrich themselves....
it's not that simple....
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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You are causing real harm by giving these people a voice in office because you think they're the best option in a field filled with fucking morons.
they are the best option in a field full of morons.....so who the fuck am i supposed to pick?.....it's not like there's one rose in each field full of fucking nettles, and i'm willfully ignoring it....there's just more fucking nettles......so you want to get whipped with the biggest, thorniest nettle? or the one with the smallest barbs?.....yes i know they suck.....but anyone else would suck more.....so just exactly who the fuck am i supposed to support, when the whole list of choices sucks?
 

Padawanbater2

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well then, who do i support? do i just quit supporting anyone? then who gets to pick? if you don't pick the lesser of two evils, then you have nothing to say......you are still responsible, you made the choice of not choosing, so you share the culpability for the acts of those people you allowed to take office....that's how i see it....you were given a choice in an important matter....if you make no choice, it's the same as saying "you all decide how i'll live my life, and i'll bitch, but i'll do it, because i'm too lazy to care".....so i try to pick the best choice out of a field of bad choices....what do you do when there is no good choice? because the people you didn't elect aren't going to be sitting on their hands waiting for you to do something, they'll be digging in like ticks, they'll be pushing policy through that will not be good for anyone but them, they'll be making deals with other crooks to both protect and enrich themselves....
it's not that simple....
It absolutely is that simple. Stop supporting liars in congress, and liars in congress will stop winning. Everyone lies in congress, so you have to support someone is the biggest crock of bullshit I have ever heard in my life. That line of thinking keeps people in congress fucking lying. And I won't have any goddamn part in it.

Stop lying. Fight for the fucking people you're supposed to represent and you won't need big donors to win elections. You will have the people in your district on your side.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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god damn it.....everyone here is an expert on telling everyone what they're doing wrong.....but i'd like to hear one of you motherfuckers come up with one single, workable plan to fix a single fucking problem......................................................................................................................................still waiting.................................
 

Padawanbater2

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they are the best option in a field full of morons.....so who the fuck am i supposed to pick?.....it's not like there's one rose in each field full of fucking nettles, and i'm willfully ignoring it....there's just more fucking nettles......so you want to get whipped with the biggest, thorniest nettle? or the one with the smallest barbs?.....yes i know they suck.....but anyone else would suck more.....so just exactly who the fuck am i supposed to support, when the whole list of choices sucks?
If nobody supports you, why would you support them?

Look past the best of the worst system. The best of the worst still isn't good. Support people who support your interests.
 

Padawanbater2

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god damn it.....everyone here is an expert on telling everyone what they're doing wrong.....but i'd like to hear one of you motherfuckers come up with one single, workable plan to fix a single fucking problem......................................................................................................................................still waiting.................................
Stop voting for liars
 

Padawanbater2

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i hope someone does.....open revolt slowly becomes a little more viable as trump makes things worse and worse, and the democrats drag their feet on getting him out of office.
i'd like a real candidate to appear. i don't care if it's a man or a woman, i don't care if they're white, black, yellow, brown or red.....someone who doesn't have any real skeletons to hide....someone who has both a sense of morals and ethics, and the ability to broker large deals with other nations...someone who can keep the economy alive, while not killing the poor......someone who cares about the security of our country, but doesn't think that security means isolationism, or nationalism, or hating anyone.....
the problem is anyone who has the qualifications i want, would never take the job....they wouldn't want to immerse themselves daily into the filth that flows through Washington d.c.
No skeletons, morals and ethics, international appeal.. Sounds a lot like Bernie Sanders. Also the dude with the highest approval rating as a sitting member of congress..
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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It absolutely is that simple. Stop supporting liars in congress, and liars in congress will stop winning. Everyone lies in congress, so you have to support someone is the biggest crock of bullshit I have ever heard in my life. That line of thinking keeps people in congress fucking lying. And I won't have any goddamn part in it.

Stop lying. Fight for the fucking people you're supposed to represent and you won't need big donors to win elections. You will have the people in your district on your side.
well point those people out to me? i keep looking for them, and not finding them....are they fucking hiding? do i need a password before they'll reveal themselves to me? i don't find anyone who i can feel good about supporting...so i'm not supposed to support anyone?
i seriously can't find one single person from my state that i want to be in office, all of our senators and congress people are pieces of shit as far as i'm concerned. none of them give a fuck about the state, and as far as i can tell, none of the candidates waiting in the wings are any fucking better....so i just don't vote for anyone next time? so if there is one candidate that may do some good things, that has a slightly better platform....i shouldn't pick them, because i know they still lie....less than the other candidate, but they still lie....so i just stay home and possibly let the much worse candidate win? that's like saying you don't care whether you get a cold or pneumonia.....it's all the same......
of course i don't want shitty liars in office...but who the fuck else wants the damn job?.....you say don't vote for liars...i say they're all fucking liars........the choice is going to be made......either you try to steer it towards the least harmful option, or you're worse than useless....you're spitefully harming the whole country because you didn't get a choice you liked....that's fucking reality....you don't get what you want...you get to choose from a whole roster of fucks.....if you're smart, you'll pick the one with the littlest dick
 

Padawanbater2

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what do you do when there is no good choice?
If there is no good choice, I don't choose either. Because just as you say, making no choice makes you culpable in the events the lack of the choice you made resulted in, so does choosing the lesser of two evils in the choice you did choose to make. So either way, even by making no choice, you are still making a choice.. But, by not making a choice, I don't think you're as responsible as you would be had you made an active decision
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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No skeletons, morals and ethics, international appeal.. Sounds a lot like Bernie Sanders. Also the dude with the highest approval rating as a sitting member of congress..
bernie has whole closets made out of skeletons....and i doubt his morals and ethics...highly doubt them....he's a hypocrite. period.
you want something that doesn't exist....you want some perfect person to support. they don't fucking exist, and aren't likely to in this lifetime. what we do have is a list of imperfect, flawed, sometimes downright fucking criminal assholes who want to be politicians.....either pick one, or don't....but if you don't pick one....shut the fuck up....no making a choice isn't noble...it's cowardice...."i didn't vote for that fucker!"......no...you didn't make a choice, you sat idly by as others decided your fate......you either participate, or withdraw....there's no middle ground
 

Padawanbater2

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well point those people out to me? i keep looking for them, and not finding them....are they fucking hiding? do i need a password before they'll reveal themselves to me? i don't find anyone who i can feel good about supporting...so i'm not supposed to support anyone?
i seriously can't find one single person from my state that i want to be in office, all of our senators and congress people are pieces of shit as far as i'm concerned. none of them give a fuck about the state, and as far as i can tell, none of the candidates waiting in the wings are any fucking better....so i just don't vote for anyone next time? so if there is one candidate that may do some good things, that has a slightly better platform....i shouldn't pick them, because i know they still lie....less than the other candidate, but they still lie....so i just stay home and possibly let the much worse candidate win? that's like saying you don't care whether you get a cold or pneumonia.....it's all the same......
of course i don't want shitty liars in office...but who the fuck else wants the damn job?.....you say don't vote for liars...i say they're all fucking liars........the choice is going to be made......either you try to steer it towards the least harmful option, or you're worse than useless....you're spitefully harming the whole country because you didn't get a choice you liked....that's fucking reality....you don't get what you want...you get to choose from a whole roster of fucks.....if you're smart, you'll pick the one with the littlest dick
I've been where you are and felt the exact same way

Real talk, there are people out there that represent your values and support the same things you do

They're just not propped up by the mainstream media. They absolutely exist, though

These are the people I think you should support
 

Padawanbater2

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bernie has whole closets made out of skeletons....and i doubt his morals and ethics...highly doubt them....he's a hypocrite. period.
you want something that doesn't exist....you want some perfect person to support. they don't fucking exist, and aren't likely to in this lifetime. what we do have is a list of imperfect, flawed, sometimes downright fucking criminal assholes who want to be politicians.....either pick one, or don't....but if you don't pick one....shut the fuck up....no making a choice isn't noble...it's cowardice...."i didn't vote for that fucker!"......no...you didn't make a choice, you sat idly by as others decided your fate......you either participate, or withdraw....there's no middle ground
I gotta disagree with that, man. Probably the strongest argument against Sanders the right would have to offer up is his Democratic Socialist ideals, but I don't think they would land because something like 72% of the country supports them.. Even a majority of Republicans.

What exactly do you "highly doubt" about Bernie Sanders' morals and ethics? How is he a hypocrite?

I don't want someone perfect who doesn't exist. All I want is someone who doesn't accept giant corporate bribes and someone who represents the American people. I really don't feel like that's too much to ask for in a democratically elected American president
 
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