Winterizing bho

qwizoking

qwizoking

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I used to heat my powder to scrape and collect but after smoking chunks of shatter for months and simultaneously smoking this powder I realized the powder was the way to go.. everyone loves its bag appeal, I mean who honestly can say a gram of that white powder wouldn't just look orgasmic...so people go crazy trying to get it off me and then they don't have to do anything to smoke it, you simply pinch some powder on a bowl of bud. No melting your shatter or trying to break a chunk off and because its this powder it burns wonderfully. The chunk of shatter won't burn properly and by the time you finish its degraded a lot..... I've recently fell in love with this powdery hash and its ease to smoke...though sometimes it is very sticky or seems to have an unusually low melting point..then after a day it well morph together and resemble your milky way? Idk lol some nougaty candy bar

You ever tried smoking the powder?
Seems most haven't even though its like that after purge, most like to gather it and melt it in their hand or similar

Did you check tc's powder then the clumped ball starting to wax..looks sweet as well....in that same thread
 
vacpurge

vacpurge

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hmm. interesting. technically, no I dont think ive ever tried smoking the powder. I find it very hard and frustrating to scrape, and also somewhat wasteful. ive seen it tons though... usually on the outside edges of my dish that get forgotten about for a week or so until the next batch, then im bored and will scrape it for the hell of it and get nothing but powder/extremely dried BHO shatter stuff. ive always figured that powder stuff was EXTREMELY purged though.

got any more pics of big powder piles?? I cant imagine putting a g of it into something like a bag or a container.. seems like a royal mess waiting to happen IMO. but I bet its real nice to smoke.
 
Sirdabsalot462

Sirdabsalot462

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Fadedawg said:
Are you sure you got all the Iso out? Residual Iso is pungent and tastes like hammered crap.
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Hashhaha, bwhaha...

” tastes like hammered crap”

Great laughs in the early morning help bring light to the day.

Thank you FD!

Not laughing at you, War...just thought that comment was hilarious.

Hope all is well with everybody.
 
Lysemith, Lowkey

Lysemith, Lowkey

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qwizoking said:
I have used an acid and other traditional means to decarb the solution through standard chem rxn's but thc seems to be to unstable and quickly oxidizes or otherwise degrades..refluxing is the technical term for your decarbing method.. and while I'm sure that works efficiently and preserves flavor....when I decarb its going to be specifically for edibles and I don't worry about flavor. In my personal opinion (and yes I have lots of patience) the most potent decarbed oil or whatever is decarbed naturally.. I'm sure you've all seen the graph of the decarbing at whatever temp for however long..its on skunkpharm and elsewhere, its a function of thc being decarbed and the rates of degredation from those high temps.....thca at room temp will be decarbed at about 4 months in a sealed container. You can make that 2 months with a fan...I've personally seen testing (besides just studies, that suggest this time frame) that show complete decarboxlation as well as a higher thc content than bud or oil that used a heated decarb......

So to conclude..my natural decarb might not be as flavorful I don't know for sure, but I have seen testing showing higher thc content using this method....though I realize most don't have the amount of bud to store that long[/QUOTE

Thanks for the nomenclature! I've had to teach myself a lot, and stoner that I am have mixed up some terms.

I only decarb for edibles as well and like making OG Kush sugar cookies! They taste wonderful!

I would bet your long and slow decarb method might enhance flavor in some cases, probably potency too. Would leaving it in the sun occasionally help the process?

This is super awesome! Thanks soo much for teaching me something new!
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Guzias1

Guzias1

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ive been accumulating my wax filters in a mason, along with rinsed tool wash..

sooo, like i had a full jar, i dissolved at room temp for a few days, then re winterized..
sooooooo many waxes mang






i freakin spilllllled, filter gave in, time to re winterize :p



going for some shatter matter, we'll see


waxes went to trash :]
 
vacpurge

vacpurge

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holy shit guzias. you never cease to impress me. that first pic is one fucking hell of a lot of waxes.

god damn... think of how much bud that originally came from!!!!! wow.
 
vacpurge

vacpurge

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how have you been saving the filters?

how did you wash them exactly?

im very interested to see the final pics. thats wild.
 
Guzias1

Guzias1

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These filters are my collection of plant wax filters.

I would strain the goods, then save the filters all in one mason jar in my freezer. I would also throw my rinsed tools and dishes into the jar. Mix of iso and everclear. I actually dissolved in 110f heat and stirred before final freezing. I'm hoping to get an oz. We shall see :)

I'm currently at room temp fan/evap
 
Guzias1

Guzias1

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lollllllll. that wax pic is disgustingly beautiful.

im converting what i got out of it to some flavored (w)e(ed)-juice :]

out of allll that damn plant wax, i gots around 35g absolute out of it..
cant tell you how much material went into it though..


p.s. i never even tried for shatter(like i said i woulds), i been soo behind.. sry
 
BluJayz

BluJayz

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Anyone ever have butane molecularize (idk...) when purging the eth out? Dish gets cold and turns the sides to wax while the dish still has eth? (under heat)
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SaybianTv

SaybianTv

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I dunno bout molecularize, i know i've touched many a pyrex that are both hot and ice cold at the same time during rapid evaporation. I've actually had wax fall out and onto the glass walls, I didn't mean to winterize I was just washing oil out of a round bottom flask and left the stir bar going while still warming up the oil. Is the phenomenon im describing similar to what your experiencing or you talking about the white milk from alcohol and water mixing?
 
BluJayz

BluJayz

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The hot cold thing yeah, it happens around that line for me. Where its as cold as spray from a can around the rim; but the plate has been on a 100F for hours.
 
Bublonichronic

Bublonichronic

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guz, your a fuckin bho beast!

i remember my first time winterizing when i saw the liquid turn all white i freaked out thinkin i fucked it up! but sure enought was nothing to worry about
 
BluJayz

BluJayz

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Bublonichronic said:
guz, your a fuckin bho beast!

i remember my first time winterizing when i saw the liquid turn all white i freaked out thinkin i fucked it up! but sure enought was nothing to worry about
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LoL I single out the white fluid and let it dry on its own. Really not much in it; it takes longer to evap and I have adhd. I do have to admit at first I thought it was pure THC and was quickly put in my place. lol

Ready for the chamber now:
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SaybianTv

SaybianTv

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Yeah that's the power of evaporative cooling, I learned how to cool homes in the desert by funky passing of airstream over pools of moisture. Before I knew about winterizing I kept thinking some gargoyle bandit was throwing kief into my etoh when I was evaporating in the food dehydrator. I remember once globbing it up and trying to smoke it :( back when I didn't know what fats were. phenomenon like that just blow my mind, then again it's the same thing going on why people can't keep there vac chamber temps stable and wake up to roast oil that was dead cold on the thermometer when they went to bed.
evaporative cooling.jpg I butchered this image i found on the net to illustrate
 
Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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hi guys, so i'm not a total noob at bho but pretty green. I don't have the vac equipment so i generally just heat and cool a few times til i see no bubbles. I'm fortunate enough to be able to get ahold of ethanol in the uk and was going to have a bash at winterizing my next run. I'm curious, is it really as simple as adding x amount of ethanol to the mix and then allowing it to filter into a pyrex jug in the freezer overnight. wax remains in the filter then evap the oil below and it'll be the clear loveliness you guys been posting? seems almost too simple to be true lol.


thanks in advance!
 
Guzias1

Guzias1

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Try it out don gin.
let us know exactly what you have planned, or tell us how you went about doing it.

good to see you in here don! I used to be entertained by your club 600 posts.
good luckk!
 
Don Gin and Ton

Don Gin and Ton

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I'm deffo going to get down! I've spent the last hour or so going through the thread over at another spot about Absolute Amber.

I'm going to get a thermos flask and try a longer extraction than using the glass tube. as much as it goes against my reading up til today i'm going to freeze wet trim in situ in the thermos and then put a tube or 2 of butane into the flask. agitate for an hour and then strain into a pyrex to naturally evap. mix the remaining oil with ethanol, put it into the freezer overnight or 24 hours then strain through a coffee filter. should be nothing but letting the ethanol evap off slowly after that!?

any holes in my plan? any tips to maximise what i'm doing, please feel free to guide me!

and thanks for the warm welcome Guz! I'll be sure to report in when i'm done.
 
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