My Current set up: journal?

also check out procyon 100 at LED Grow Lights - HomeGrownLights.com an the ufo at he hid hut these units are a but pricey but make some wicked claims

I thought i already posted this but what is the name of your fixture. I am getting the sunsystem tek light 4 ft 8 lamp 9 bend deflector made out of german 95% reflective aluminum they claim that there is a 300% higher light output then with no reflector. they are calling them the rolls royce of t5 fixtures I am getting two of them right after X mas. I see to that they can be hung vertically as well as horizontal. I was thinking of hanging two of the 4bulb fixtures on a almost vertical postion making more side coverage. Having one eight bulb fixture an two 4 bulb fixtures on each side angled for better side light penatration just a thought still up in the air about that one

Hey VV, I was talking about from seed... i'll be in a bit of a rush trying to bring my next crop through after the root development thread. I'm going to have a couple of weeks break for x-mas before starting again, maybe... i think.

Anyway, i was just wondering if you knew how long a seed plant took to preflower under the T5's. I suppose it doesn't really matter, I'll just end up using mh anyway.

happy growing... VV

VV, how much do you pay for the T5's? I'm looking at possibly scoring some for vegetating but not sure on the quantity. I'm looking to germ and veg ~10 plants... also what are some good places to order or do you buy locally?

The heat output is my primary concern and appeal to these lights... I just bought a grow tent and was thinking of putting a small shelf in there and veg'ing plants under the shelf/table with the T5's on the bottom of the table with the plants below.

Thanks for sharing your experiences in this thread! It was a great read.


edit: I saw you paid $340... was that with the bulbs? aand that is the 8, 4' lights?

Soo....I was in my car when it hit me. I do have three tables in flowering, two of them will finish at the same time. Hmm.....I really couldn't see any reason to wait with the table of vegging plants except the room arrangement. My next group of clones, which I won't need for at least a month would have to be moved. This is actually the way I wanted to set it up to begin with and with the T-5's it won't be a problem.
I took a close look at the plants. Here is a 9week and 5 week flowering plant. I have another 'Spread Offense' plant. And here is what it looks like tied up. This last one is of the outside of the farthest from the center of the table plant. Notice the secondary buds are not 'growing in' towards the center. The t-5 spreads the light over the whole table. I am seeing a lot of sideways growth for these lower branches, which is why we had dropped the number of plants. I love it when a plan come together. Turn the page. VV

Here we go...on the road again....here we go..
Soo... this is a picture of the room before we make the necessary changes that will allow us to have four tables in the flowering area. This will involve removing the clone table and clone stand and putting table four at that end so we end up with two flowering tables on each side of the room and the dividing curtain going the width of the room instead of the length. I was never really happy with the other arrangment, felt it was neccessary at that time. The t-5's have allowed this change.
Table 3 is the mixed table, the center row is 9 week flowering while the two outside rows are 5 week flowering.
Table 2 is now 12 instead of 20, all 5 weeks flowering. Many 'nice' cola's like this exist on the 5 week flowering plants.
I had left my camera in the car overnight and when I brought it in to my 'sancturary' it 'fooged up'. I knocked the outside bud off a plant today while sycronizing the lights. I thought it made a cool picture. Here we are....up on stage.....Turn the Page....VV

Soo... as long as I had totaled killed that little bud anyway, why not check it. I trimmed it and laid it on the scale. This is 3 weeks from maturity. I want to again remind everyone we added Europonic 'fossil fuel' about the same time we put these under the t-5's so keep in mind we already think we will get a higher/ plant harvest just from that addition. This is about two hours after it got knocked off so its really wet. I will use it for one of those 'unscientific' tests of it's potency some time later today or early tomorrow if anyone cares to stop by.
It used to be a 'microwave cart' Donnie. The 'stool' is better, still not satisfied, price was right. Just been a little busy. VV

indica44 said:

I thought i already posted this but what is the name of your fixture. I am getting the sunsystem tek light 4 ft 8 lamp 9 bend deflector made out of german 95% reflective aluminum they claim that there is a 300% higher light output then with no reflector. they are calling them the rolls royce of t5 fixtures I am getting two of them right after X mas.

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Sunlight Supply SunBlaze48. A lot of hid's use that type of reflective material, it sounds like a good one. Part of the reason I bought the one's I have is I plan to replace them. I believe led's will be i use economically within a year.

I see to that they can be hung vertically as well as horizontal. I was thinking of hanging two of the 4bulb fixtures on a almost vertical postion making more side coverage. Having one eight bulb fixture an two 4 bulb fixtures on each side angled for better side light penatration just a thought still up in the air about that one

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Hmm....I thought about doing something with side lighting. Or just move them a few inches apart. You have to see the coverage. Visit the local grow shop and 'look under the hood' . VV

Tax,title, plates which includes our 6% sales tax. All the bulbs are the same price. The $340.00 numder includes the bulbs. VV

watching this nice set up

Thanx Tokey, glad to see you stop by.
Verticle space can be used to stack things up that aren't very tall. like vegging plants and clones. Soo.....each of the shelves will hold 18 vegging plants and the top layer will be for clones. Now the trick is to come up with an automatted watering system for this puppy. LOL. VV

I just got to say, awesome work VV. I'm taking notes.

Thanx Plasma, good of you to drop by, door is always open. So this is as good as I can do right now because of my camera 'foog up' this morning. Lights come on at 9:00PM est. About 6 hours from now. Indica, I looked at the information they have and I may contact them now. The information they have looks good to me, not that $600.00 although I am sure there is some added air handling etc. that wouldn't be necessary in my environment. They are talking about a 14 watt grid. They say it will cover maximum 1' sq. ft. The information I saw the other day showed a conversion to hid's as 25watts/hundred or 150 watts roughly 11 of these 14 watt grids. At 11 or more your price for the kits @ $30.oo. Being a balanced kind of guy I would want 12 of them to cover my tables anyway. With assembly @$20.00 each thats $600.00 75% less energy use. This warrants further investigation. Now I have to go check Now Stop Whinings post to see what they were. I'll let everyone know the results of that search. I'm thinking they might like to mak a deal.
Ok it's general thanx time again. There are so many that have contributed to this journey, and journal, that I could not name all of you, I like to think you know who you are, if I have posted in your thread you have helped me in some way. Please indulge my by allowing special thanx to those of you that challenged me to try, Skunk this thread could not have happened without you, and GK when I meet you I'll want you to sign that 'Special' copy, Mogie all of your hard work in FAQ can't be emphazied enough, this could go on for days, but I am running out of kleenex, Lacy glad to see you back. No Waffeling, thats great looking bud, bud. And I take my hat off to the 'Infamous Aussie' Al B Fuct. His presentation of a perpetual harvest was the 'model' for this operation. And the funniest post I ever read in these forums is in his thread, "How To Get A Harvest Every Two Weeks". I love you man. Thanx All of you. VV

bravo bravo!!!!!!

Here we go...upon stage.... Started this Journal on November 5th. Two tables in the grow are still in the same spot they started in and everything else has been moved. One of them has been disassembled, no longer useful to me, and a new stand for vegging plants and clones has been built to take advantage of our verticlee space, and we have started to integrate it into what we hope will be a nice perpetual grow op for one old man. We have four tables in flowering now ranging from 3 days to 9+ weeks. Total of 61 plants. Because of the changes I made to the number of plants per table, we would be harvesting 20 plants in approximatley 3 weeks, then 20 more in approximately 7 weeks. Then we will be lagging a week behind with the third harvest, still at 20 plants 12 weeks away. We have 31 clones on the vegging stand, that were transplanted at different times 16 a little over a week ago and the other 15 just two days ago, when we put the vegging clone stand together.
We are planning on taking two clones from each plant as we move them into flowering 3-4 weeks and 8 weeks from now. They way I see it, with the four tables used for flowering instead of three I can get (4) harvest every (3) months, with the twelve week flowering cycle, and bring the clones along slowly. If the new lights speed up the process we will make other adjustments. We know that in order to grow we need to knowm ? The room, or as much as my camera can show. The table we trimmed last week, now flowering for three days. Skunk I checked as well as I could about the height increase. I hung that meter measurer in the picture and thought it would show up, I can't see it. They have grown 1-1/2" since you asked the question.
Now I have a question for all of you. IF and thats a big IF you were going to post a poll on this thread, for the contest, how would you word your questions??? VV

VV check out the seller on ebay going by the name [fullcomputerconsulting] he claims to make the brightess an least expensive leds on the market

Just out of curiosity... if you're going to build your own ebb and flows, why not build something low profile? I find lower tables are easier to keep temps down, cheaper to build... is it just easier to maintain your plants?

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Just out of curiosity... if you're going to build your own ebb and flows, why not build something low profile? I find lower tables are easier to keep temps down, cheaper to build... is it just easier to maintain your plants?

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I thought I explained that, I apoligize. I have 10' ceilings and a bad back. So I made the tables higher to accomidate this old man. The reses are on a concrete floor so the height of the table doesn't affect the temp. The other advantage for me is the distance between the reses and the tables, I can easily reach in, when I am on my knees of course and do any necessary work below without moving the res. If you don't have ten foot ceiling and a bad back adjust the height of the tables to fit your needs and space. VV

Hi Im trying to decide on t5's or hps. I know you say t5's is best for beginners, but they take considerably longer to reach harvesting. Correct? How long did it take you from beginning veg to harvest under t5's?

I've been trying to figure out that too..

Yeah VV, I'd like to hear how they compair to hps as far as flowering times and final product go.

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