My Current set up: journal?

VictorVIcious

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I would have to go back and check. I haven't moved the light that much, its probably the angle of the picture. What I am looking for here is to get the bottom branches to catch up as much as they will without topping the plant. May not be possible with the ice, unless I force flowering now, which I am considering. They are 17" to 18" now. Its something I have been considering since I checked the light leak out that window with the t-5's. In my area the number 1 reason cops start to suspect a grow is a covered window. With the t-5's I dont have too so I could put four tables 2 x 2 all at that end, lol and build something else for the clones.rofl I'm working on a design now. I'll post it if I do it. VV
 

wbinwv

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go check my journal, they are on day 22 of veg and both plants are topped and stand 8 inches tall. They are at 7 nodes. I was planning on using CFL's throughout but I may try and build my own HPS light before I flower.
 

indica44

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I just joined victorVicious an the reason I joined was I googled growing with T5 flourescents an wala I found a journal on it man I am stoked. I am getting two eight bulb fixtures from a company called sunsystem tek-light nine bend reflector made of German 95% reflective aluminum they say the light output is 300 % higher than with no reflector I am going to read an follow what you are doing except the first grow will be in soiless mix with organic food
 

donnieosmond

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Nice journal VV! It's about time you took a break from real life and joined us in virtual reality. I love the new craftsman chair, it's nice. I never noticed that the wood cart you have to hold things is the same cart I used to have a long time ago for an "entertainment center" lol. Is yours really old too?
 

indica44

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I never here you say you are checking your ph level in my experience not keeping the ph a the correct level albeit they will still grow but not as big as they can get. Co2 you should introduce co2 into your grow that will definitely increase the yields per plant. Another thing you might try is fliping your clones right into budding as soon as they root filling your table with 3or 4 inch rock wool cubes making a tight SOG. make sure you always soak the rockwool cubes before you use them because they come with a high ph level
 

indica44

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Soo.... spent Saturday and part of Sunday harvesting the first plants that were under the t-5's for eight weeks. That is before I checked farther and started mixing 1/2 red, 1/2 blue. 15 plants and it looks like I am short of my goal again. I may meet one goal, 1 0z/Plant. If i did this correctly, here is how it lays out. 1335 wet grams/4 (you will normally lose 75% of weight during the drying and curing process) leaves 444 grams. dry weight. That is just short of a pound from fifteen plants grown with rh in the 70's and temps low 80's for almost two weeks. Its real close to an oz / plant. If you count the oz as 28.8grams and thats what it really is, its just short. I weigh mine out at 28.4. If any one needs close ups to check my trim please just ask. It did overfill my bud dryer just a little. Guess if I improve I'll have to make a bigger one, oh pity me? VV:hump:

Is this under one fixture of 8 bulbs? An if so that is good weight for around 40000 lumens.
 

mastakoosh

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this thread is very detailed and informative. VV how much is your t-5 setup? i am looking into the pro's and cons of hps's versus flouro's. thanks for this great thread and the plants look awesome.
 

VictorVIcious

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I never here you say you are checking your ph level in my experience not keeping the ph a the correct level albeit they will still grow but not as big as they can get.
Soo... after reading this thread and not seeing ph mention much you think I need these instructions, Please. I have installed an RO system and can fill my reservoirs by turning a switch.
Co2 you should introduce co2 into your grow that will definitely increase the yields per plant.

Yes , I belive it will, from the information I have read the say a 25% increase in yield. I figure by the time I install it with the necessary controls I will be dropping a grand on one. That will be after I finish this round of upgrading lights and then install a carbon filter and appropriate fan. I would aslo need to change the controls for the air handling system. Introducing co2 before you have all of the other controls in place is a waste in my opinion
Another thing you might try is fliping your clones right into budding as soon as they root filling your table with 3or 4 inch rock wool cubes making a tight SOG. make sure you always soak the rockwool cubes before you use them because they come with a high ph level
Your post really confuses me. I am going back to use coco because I LIKE IT BETTER. PERIOD. In addition to that I was growing 20 plants on those tables and have dropped it to fifteen for this time and 12 for the next ones and you intend to instruct me on ph, co2, and sog grow including ph for the cubes.???:confused:...... which I have stated I'm not going to use.:roll:
If I remember correctly Al B is getting 13 to 16 oz in his sog grow, that is what I started to set up. Mine is a different strain and takes longer to flower. Can you get better production, certainly, and I intend to. I am not going to start over with ph 101.
Maybe I missed something here. What was your point?? VV
 

VictorVIcious

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Is this under one fixture of 8 bulbs? An if so that is good weight for around 40000 lumens.
Thanx, and yes it is under 1-4'- 8 bulb t-5 fixture 1/2 red and 1/2 blue. $340.00 out the door locally. Before any one buy's one please check further into the led's that nowstopwhining posted. I did some more checking. The information available says you only need 150watts of led's to replace a 600watthid. That one was posted Sunday, you know how it is old people forget and I couldn't rep him. LED's was in the title. Depends onthe watts of what now stopwhining posted. 4' by 1' grid was like $249.00. Check the watts, this may be a super buy. VV
 

VictorVIcious

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this thread is very detailed and informative. VV how much is your t-5 setup? i am looking into the pro's and cons of hps's versus flouro's. thanks for this great thread and the plants look awesome.
Thank you. $340.00 locally. I believe invisiting the local grow shop if possible. Don't miss the info on led's. I am starting to check them out. Menards even has some, not the right ones. It won't be long. VV
 

skunkushybrid

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I have to admit that using fluoro's in veg' is getting more appealing to me. plants naturally need less light during this period, although the more you have the quicker they grow... but once you have a system down, it should be worth the extra wait.

One concern, how long do they take to pre-flower in veg'?
 

indica44

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Your post really confuses me. I am going back to use coco because I LIKE IT BETTER. PERIOD. In addition to that I was growing 20 plants on those tables and have dropped it to fifteen for this time and 12 for the next ones and you intend to instruct me on ph, co2, and sog grow including ph for the cubes.???:confused:...... which I have stated I'm not going to use.:roll:
If I remember correctly Al B is getting 13 to 16 oz in his sog grow, that is what I started to set up. Mine is a different strain and takes longer to flower. Can you get better production, certainly, and I intend to. I am not going to start over with ph 101.
Maybe I missed something here. What was your point?? VV
sorry for the confusion VV by the time I was done reading last nite I wasnt making much sence either. It seems to me by reading your journal through that you are realy wanting to hit the the 1 gram per watt. the way I have seen that done is with a sog method an the clones packed tight and no vegging when roots take flip them to 12 on 12 off that is a way of getting 1 gram per watt. And when attempting that you need to use rockwool the way you are growing by vegging for period of time you are getting realy good weight almost as good as it gets I have seen grows where there is 12 1ooo HPS lamps an growing a heavy indica an they only get 1.2 pounds per 1000 watt of lights they grow in soiless mix So I feel the only way you can increase your yield is with Co2. And when I think about it PH is not much of a factor if your getting 440 grams dry weight. It would not hurt to take the odd PH reading just to make sure since the testing an leveling out supplies are not expensive you should invest. If your plants get sick at least with a test kit you could elimnate it as the problem if it is not PH. If you want a heavy producing strain BIG BUD from The sensi seed bank it will blow your mind the size of these babies
 

indica44

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Thanx, and yes it is under 1-4'- 8 bulb t-5 fixture 1/2 red and 1/2 blue. $340.00 out the door locally. Before any one buy's one please check further into the led's that nowstopwhining posted. I did some more checking. The information available says you only need 150watts of led's to replace a 600watthid. That one was posted Sunday, you know how it is old people forget and I couldn't rep him. LED's was in the title. Depends onthe watts of what now stopwhining posted. 4' by 1' grid was like $249.00. Check the watts, this may be a super buy. VV
You should check out this procyon-100 LED Grow Lights - HomeGrownLights.com
 

VictorVIcious

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And when I think about it PH is not much of a factor if your getting 440 grams dry weight. It would not hurt to take the odd PH reading just to make sure since the testing an leveling out supplies are not expensive you should invest. If your plants get sick at least with a test kit you could elimnate it as the problem if it is not PH.
Yes, well actually I have 2 of them which I received along with my first 'Drip' table in July of 06'. Thats how I knew I needed the RO system.

If you want a heavy producing strain BIG BUD from The sensi seed bank it will blow your mind the size of these babies
Take a look at Wafflehouse Lover's Thread, they are some big buds. No, that wasn't my purpose. I wanted a good producer, of course. The important thing to me was to be able to do this as a hobby. Small amount of folks that buy quality at a good price. Low traffic.
I know I say I don't know about the plants, I'm still learning, maybe thats where you got the idea I don't know anything. lol :mrgreen: VV

SKUNK, I don't even look. All of them are clones, all female. Do you use this as an indication of something?? When it was important, my old eyes couldn't see it, now that I have some magnifiers I could check, and its no longer important to me. I have completed the current changes in the set up and hope to post a few new things later today. Right now I have to go clean the last res and get it back in place so it can fill while the lights are out. Thanx VV
 
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