One of the 132 buildings destroyed was a pretty big news building hosting a few like Al Jazeera among others.
No worries.
It depends, is the bot spamming that cat video to people to cat fish them into thinking that they are all nice and cuddly only to later lie to them about something when they gained enough credibility to spread something that their handlers want out in the conversation?
I am all for that.
I am not sure if you can actually say that honestly and it makes me question your motives.
And that is why they should continue to post their eye witness accounts, and others should record them too and send them to people and actual news companies like the AP news (who will need the information of the people so that they can report it).
It also hosted Associated Press and several other European News Agencies.
Not sure, haven't experienced this myself. I dont add anyone i do not know. Friends are usually legit; never had anyone turn out to be/post something they weren't.
Agreed. Hate/rage accts should not be used to spread false narratives to the public. We can both agree, eye-witness accts are okay. But, do social media companies not have enough tech/algorithms to differentiate the two?? One is a bot repeating info, another is a real human having a traumatic living experience, daily. They cannot both be lumped into the same category.
Can you explain? I honestly am having a hard time seeing how real acct's information and videos get picked up by "trolls" and shared with who? Which people will react in a way that would be determental? When images of a captive people are seen by humans, what emotion comes up for the majority of these people? Empathy, i would assume. I'm not getting where you're coming from on this point.
Al-Jazeera is well respected also.
Agreed! Not my intention to have you or anyone else "fall" for any deflection. Intention is to share events surrounding the issue to complete a full story. If we spend more time speaking about social media it deflects from the subject, yes. I am okay moving on from this as it touches upon an even bigger scale of problems that could have it's own thread.
Agreed.
How many people that you haven't met in real life do you think that you read a post/comment by in a given day?
Cool, we got to this agreement.
I am not sure what you mean by 'eye-witness accounts'.
Of course they don't. How could they? 90% of what is posted is just normal shit. Then boom all of a sudden all these puppet accounts get activated and coordinate an attack. They get the boot, and no big deal because accounts are free and the con starts all over again.
I would just focus first on 'being picked up by trolls and shared with' part of this. Because at this point there is already a problem that needs to be solved.
The very day it was sent out, it made it's way to Trump's cult Facebook pages and
The very same day it was posted Donald Trump cult was ... got sidetracked looking at what was going on at the time:
Now the first time I could see his name being said here my post about what Trump said:
And the first searchable result of George Floyd here is a post using the same bullshit propaganda that trolls were spreading on Trump's Facebook page hardening the narratives that these people would then follow to argue with people who actually cared about what happened.
I don't know what 'well respected' means in this, but I would not trust them as a information source.
I would really suggest looking at everything you think you care about on AP news and see how it matches up man seriously. Everything not AP news/Reuters should be read and then immediately checked with AP news or Reuters to see what was left out.
Im not saying it is yours. I am implying it is the people's intention who paid for that video you posted though.
No worries and best of luck to you and all that you care about. This attack is very real online and off.
Probably a lot. Idk anyone here.
I agree. From both sides. Of each issue.
Real people posting their experiences.
No one was talking about the injustices that's been happening recently, so I felt compelled to start a thread. Last thread was 2018, which was ridiculously trolled.
This ideology can be applied to most every subject in the political section, on a varying scale.
My wish is to inform the community about current events surrounding the situation. I honestly hope Israel stops what they're doing and can come to a resolution. I just dont see how it's going to happen they're ruled by a Zionist cult.
"Zionism aims at establishing for the Jewish people a legally assured home in Palestine. For the attainment of this purpose, the Congress considers the following means serviceable:
Operating under the aegis of the WZO are organizations that define themselves as Zionist, such as WIZO, Hadassah, B'nai B'rith, Maccabi, the International Sephardic Federation, the World Union of Jewish Students (WUJS), and more.
- The promotion of the settlement of Jewish agriculturists [farmers], artisans, and tradesmen in the Land of Israel
- The federation [unified organisation] of all Jews into local or general groups, according to the laws of the various countries
- The strengthening of the Jewish feeling and consciousness [national sentiment and national consciousness]
- Preparatory steps for the attainment of those governmental grants which are necessary to the achievement of the Zionist purpose."[2]
The Jewish Agency is a parallel organisation, with goals, attributes and leadership closely intertwined with those of the Zionist Organization during the years before the establishment of the State of Israel, and to varying degrees after that. Significant changes to the statutes of both organisations occurred in 1952, 1970 and 1979.[3]
World Zionist Organization - Wikipedia
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Posted below is the Reuters article on social media companies deleting Palestinian's posts.
Good luck to you as well, Hanimmal.
BEIRUT, May 10 (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Instagram and Twitter have blamed technical errors for deleting posts mentioning the possible eviction of Palestinians from East Jerusalem, but data rights groups fear “discriminatory” algorithms are at work and want greater transparency.
Palestinians living in the Sheikh Jarrah neighbourhood claimed by Jewish settlers have taken to social media to protest as they face eviction, but some found their posts, photos or videos removed or their accounts blocked starting last week.
It came as a long-running legal case over evictions from homes in Sheikh Jarrah has fuelled tensions in Jerusalem where hundreds of Palestinians clashed with Israeli police on Monday.
By Monday, 7amleh, a nonprofit focused on social media, had received more than 200 complaints about deleted posts and suspended accounts related to Sheikh Jarrah.
“On Instagram, it was mostly content takedown, even archives from older stories were deleted. On Twitter, most cases were an account suspension,” said Mona Shtaya, an advocacy advisor at 7amleh.
Instagram and Twitter said the accounts were “suspended in error by our automated systems” and the issue had been resolved and content reinstated.
Instagram said in a statement that an automated update last week caused content re-shared by multiple users to appear as missing, affecting posts on Sheikh Jarrah, Colombia, and U.S. and Canadian indigenous communities.
“We are so sorry this happened. Especially to those in Colombia, East Jerusalem, and Indigenous communities who felt this was an intentional suppression of their voices and their stories – that was not our intent whatsoever,” Instagram said.
CALLS FOR CLARITY
But in a joint statement, 7amleh, Access Now, and other digital rights groups called on Twitter and Instagram to use “transparent and coherent moderation policies”and be more open when take-downs happen.
Marwa Fatafta, Middle East and North Africa policy advisor for Access Now, said Twitter and Instagram users saw continued restrictions on content over the weekend.
“The issue was not resolved. We’re demanding clarity on this censorship, and system glitches are no longer accepted as an excuse,” she told the Thomson Reuters Foundation on Monday.
One of those affected was Hind Khoudary, a 25-year-old Palestinian journalist based in Turkey, who noticed last Thursday that some posts about Sheikh Jarrah from her Instagram archives were not loading.
“I restarted my phone and my wifi, but it was all still missing and Instagram was very slow,” Khoudary said.
Some of her posts had been restored by Friday afternoon but some, dating as far back as April and even as recently as Saturday, were still missing according to screenshots from her phone that she shared with the Thomson Reuters Foundation.
Some affected users received messages about “violating community standards” from Instagram.
Shtaya said 7amleh was still fielding complaints about disappeared content.
“It’s supposed to be done but we are still receiving reports,” she said.
Data rights groups said the technical glitch had revealed the risks of using an automated algorithm to try to weed out violent or otherwise inappropriate posts.
“Moderation is on the rise, and it’s really a blunt object,” said Jillian York, director for international freedom of expression at the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
“The companies don’t pay enough attention to cultural contexts like Palestine where there’s basically less profit, so they put a lot more effort into making content moderation and automation effective in larger markets,” she said.
She said as a result, content that doesn’t violate Instagram, Facebook or Twitter standards can get swept away by automated tools.
Fatafta said the deletion of posts about Sheikh Jarrah showed why using algorithms to moderate content was “a terrible idea”.
"It stresses the need for tech companies to be transparent about the systems they use, and ensure they do not infringe on people's rights in such a discriminatory and arbitrary manner," she said. (Reporting by Maya Gebeily @GebeilyM; Editing by Helen Popper and Belinda Goldsmith; Please credit the Thomson Reuters Foundation, the charitable arm of Thomson Reuters, that covers the lives of people around the world who struggle to live freely or fairly. Visit news.trust.org)
Instagram, Twitter blame glitches for deleting Palestinian posts
Instagram and Twitter have blamed technical errors for deleting posts mentioning the possible eviction of Palestinians from East Jerusalem, but data rights groups fear "discriminatory" algorithms are at work and want greater transparency.www.reuters.com
If you read that article which I have no reason to not question as being 100% accurate, you will see that the one person phone wasn't loading a website, it doesn't mean that she was not experiencing some kind of malware or someone guessed her password because it was a pet and changed her password, or any of a bunch of other reasons right?
As for everything else it is people hearing about or having 'friends' getting deleted off their accounts.
Definantly a good topic that deserved thread made. I usually find those old trolled threads really illuminating, you should have linked to it.
Then yes defiantly.
I prefer to think of it as every side form every issue. Very few things in the real world are binary problems. The whole nothing exists in a vacuum thing.
Then try to think about how many conversations you read online are between people you actually know vs the time spent reading 'conversations' from people who are totally not trolls (sarcasm). I think that might be a nice bullshitted way to think about how exposed you are to the very real propaganda attack keeping us all from talking to people rationally (non trigger phrases/words for example) in person.
When I go to the top Netanyahu link to read actual information about this very real horrific event that is unfolding,
When I searched Google:
It is so scary. I truly hope that Netanyahu is not just looking to wipe out these poor people and we are not witnessing a genocide that triggers ww3.
I meant with Russia/MBS. You're right there is no question Netanyahu has the Republican party all locked in.
I have no way to know if this is true or not, but it sounds really reasonable (I know nothing worthwhile about building rockets) to use water pipes.
