Christian militia nutjobs arrested for plan to kill cops

TheProfessor said:

Wow, where to even begin. No where in the news reports did it mention anyone using the "N-word" but you felt it relevant to bring it up, not only that but in some parallel universe you live in conspiring to kill cops is justified so long as no actual cops have been killed yet, collecting weapons, training to carry out attacks, and calling people to arms is fine, just don't do it till you do? WTF? All of that is on these peoples website, I linked it before. I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt but after looking at their website and posted materials they surely look like lunatic killer fucks.

Still can't get over the fact you brought up using the "N-word". What is your argument here.... Are you using this verbiage everyday and worried someone is gonna tell you not to? Welcome to the 21st century bro, quit thinking like a pre-civil war slave holder and love your country/countrymen regardless of skin-tone.

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So touchy.

I never used the actual N-word, Genius.

I made reference to it. You make it a Federal case.

In fact, I was lampooning unsubstantiated claims that the word was hurled at Congressman John Lewis. Try to keep up.

Johnnyorganic said:

So touchy.

I never used the actual N-word, Genius.

I made reference to it. You make it a Federal case.

In fact, I was lampooning unsubstantiated claims that the word was hurled at Congressman John Lewis. Try to keep up.

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I think I am keeping up just fine thank you. Again I am going to ask you what using the the n-word has to do with this story? Why did you feel the need to bring it up in this context? Please explain it to me because I do not understand your "lampooning" (lampooning=comedy right?). Where is it fucking funny to conspire to kill cops or to use n-word at a protest? I see you hi-lighted the "unsubstantiated" part, one can only assume you are calling him a liar. he may well be but how does that in any way pertain to this fucking story of nutjob christian whackos trying to kill cops... connect the dots for me please!

Furthermore i didn't make a federal case out of anything, the feds did when they busted these people. I just still have a hard time following your logic that a christian cult charged with conspiring to kill cops is somehow connected to the use of the n-word and Congressman John Lewis. Again, care to share some insight?

Check out one of the sub-forums in their forum....

Evil Jew Forum
Talk about being an evil Jew and how we are taking over the world in our own private forum where no one else can see. Shalomi or something.

I will trek on looking for some other gems, but this seems like a good start. Happy first night of Passover to everyone, by the way. Hope your seders go well...

So who is the victim here? Anyone get hurt or have their rights stepped on except the Hutaree? Have they done anything illegal? Perhaps Mr Stone said those things, and the others just like to play GI Joe but would never actually kill a cop or harm anyone. And I hear these Hutaree have WMD's now too, wow sensationalized or what? They could possibly have made a pipe bomb with nails wrapped around it so as to create alot of flying shrapnel, oh what they hell lets just call it a Weapon of Mass Destruction since more than one person could get hurt. While were at it lets start arresting klids with firecrackers for attempts to assassinate the pres with a modified mini thermonuclear device while were at it.

Next thing you will see is some hunting show being shut down for talking about stalking and killing a deer or something. They will call him a domestic terrorist too and ship him off to some other country to be tortured for a while.

NoDrama said:

So who is the victim here? Anyone get hurt or have their rights stepped on except the Hutaree? Have they done anything illegal?

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They planned on killing cops, its called conspiracy. Funny to see the righties on here defending them.

TheProfessor said:

I think I am keeping up just fine thank you. Again I am going to ask you what using the the n-word has to do with this story? Why did you feel the need to bring it up in this context? Please explain it to me because I do not understand your "lampooning" (lampooning=comedy right?). Where is it fucking funny to conspire to kill cops or to use n-word at a protest? I see you hi-lighted the "unsubstantiated" part, one can only assume you are calling him a liar. he may well be but how does that in any way pertain to this fucking story of nutjob christian whackos trying to kill cops... connect the dots for me please!

Furthermore i didn't make a federal case out of anything, the feds did when they busted these people. I just still have a hard time following your logic that a christian cult charged with conspiring to kill cops is somehow connected to the use of the n-word and Congressman John Lewis. Again, care to share some insight?

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What an angry Proggie-bot you are.

Since the beginning of the health care debate there has been an orchestrated attempt to stereotype all Teabaggers as a bunch of seditious, bigoted, violent, rednecks.

You don't have to believe me.

Just ask any Proggie what they think of Teabaggers.

I did not use the actual N-word on anybody; and never have. I challenge you to prove otherwise.

You object just because I had a little fun with preconceived Proggie notions of Teabaggers.

But that did not stop you from profiling me as some Confederate flag-waving cracker.

Kindly insert the race card back where it came from: Your ass.

Sorry Johnny, you played the race card first.

You say you had fun with 'preconceived proggie notions of teabaggers', who is to say that you do not have preconceived notions of teabaggers yourself?

Why did you feel the need to bring it up (the n word) in this context? Please explain it to me because I do not understand your "lampooning" (lampooning=comedy right?). Where is it fucking funny to conspire to kill cops or to use n-word at a protest? I see you hi-lighted the "unsubstantiated" part, one can only assume you are calling him a liar.

When I said you make sense greater than 50% of the time in a previous post, I was wrong. You make sense more than 95% of the time. And you make sense here. But you threw it out there first. And your skepticism is pretty laughable. Do you really think there is not a lunatic fringe out there yelling racial epithets? There is in any party, including the tea party. Don't blind yourself to this...

Also, make a spelling error one of these days. I have yet to see one from you...not even a grammar error.

FlyLikeAnEagle said:

They planned on killing cops, its called conspiracy. Funny to see the righties on here defending them.

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No funnier than seeing Proggies have conniption fits over a fringe group that didn't actually do anything but talk mean and run around in the woods.

I am not specifically defending this group. Just questioning the timing of the raid.

And it's really funny that you apparently desperately wish to ascribe the traits of this fringe group to all who oppose The Chosen One.

I am speaking out against the apparent Proggie stereotype that all Teabaggers must be like these wackos.

i dont especially like cops myself.
but if your against em, i suggest you go live in a country where there are none, and see how you feel about it. im willing to bet you be happy to have some law enforcement in your life again.

those nutjobs should get the max sentence....
this is america.
resorting to terrorism to make a political statement is a cowardly act, a lazy act, and puts you at the level of a dangerous homicidal criminal, which is what you have just become, and you should be treated as such, hunted down like a rabid dog and disposed of.

end of story.

You are right to question the timing of the raid. I 100% agree with you...just like I would 100% agree with you that whatever party or cause you may identify with has done similar deeds.

But is it more egregious for the government to shut down a bunch of cop killers than it is to invade Iraq (or whatever other action suits the party with which you identify)?

Also, why do you keep calling him the 'Chosen One'? This priming shit does nothing but sully the debate. Words have power, ya know....

dukeofbaja said:

Sorry Johnny, you played the race card first.

You say you had fun with 'preconceived proggie notions of teabaggers', who is to say that you do not have preconceived notions of teabaggers yourself?

Why did you feel the need to bring it up (the n word) in this context? Please explain it to me because I do not understand your "lampooning" (lampooning=comedy right?). Where is it fucking funny to conspire to kill cops or to use n-word at a protest? I see you hi-lighted the "unsubstantiated" part, one can only assume you are calling him a liar.

When I said you make sense greater than 50% of the time in a previous post, I was wrong. You make sense more than 95% of the time. And you make sense here. But you threw it out there first. And your skepticism is pretty laughable. Do you really think there is not a lunatic fringe out there yelling racial epithets? There is in any party, including the tea party. Don't blind yourself to this...

Also, make a spelling error one of these days. I have yet to see one from you...not even a grammar error.

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Actually John Lewis drew the race card first by making the claim. No proof.

And Proggies jumped on it as proof that Teabaggers are bigots.

The OP, by mentioning Palin and Beck, obviously meant to include Teabaggers as a greater part of this grand conspiracy.

It's all connected in Proggie minds.

He latched onto my mere mention of the N-word like a mentally challenged pit bull. Then used that to try to ascribe characteristics to me which are simply not there.

But go ahead and defend his dumb ass, Duke.

dukeofbaja said:

You are right to question the timing of the raid. I 100% agree with you...just like I would 100% agree with you that whatever party or cause you may identify with has done similar deeds.

But is it more egregious for the government to shut down a bunch of cop killers than it is to invade Iraq (or whatever other action suits the party with which you identify)?

Also, why do you keep calling him the 'Chosen One'? This priming shit does nothing but sully the debate. Words have power, ya know....

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Sort of like the word 'Teabaggers.'

I'm going to intentionally slip in a spelling error one of these day, just for you.

You are right about the lunatic fringe, Duke. Of that I have no doubt. But there is no proof it happened in the case I mentioned.

Furthermore, there is no evidence that it goes beyond this lunatic fringe as many Proggies would like to believe.

Johnnyorganic said:

I'm going to intentionally slip in a spelling error one of these day, just for you.

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Make it soon, for fuck sake!

Look back at my posts. I always go with 'tea party' over 'tea baggers'.

Now, back to the earlier post...'John Lewis made the claim first'....true. But who brought it up in this thread? Did John Lewis do that? It is fun to deflect responsibility thousands of miles eastward, I will grant you that.

I will not defend the linking of Palin and Beck to this shit....directly. But Palin is out there saying...."DON"T RETREAT, RELOAD!" and putting crosshairs on swing states. And McCain, who was totally honorable during the election, is out there defending her. At least during the aftermath of the civil rights passage, those who were defeated spoke out publicly against the extremism from the lunatic fringe. Palin, McCain, and others (you know exactly who, being as informed as you are) are fanning the flames of it, compelling nutjobs folks like this gang.

I will not ascribe to you anything racist in the least, I know from your previous posts you are ANYTHING BUT. However, you brought it in first. I sound like a kid saying that...'He started it!'....but look back over the thread.

Also, look at the polls and statistics. During the election, 10-15% of folks admitted to not voting for Obama because of his skin color. Now, if you consider that there are lots more folks who would not admit such a thing to a pollster, that number is much higher. Now, look at what percentage of folks are tea partiers....a similar percentage. To give these folks credit for being similarly enlightened dissenters as you are is to give too much credit to the intelligence of the average citizen. These folks are simply angry idiots, for the most part, and I could see myself identifying as one of them....when I was 17 and dumb as a rock.

i know i keep sticking my nose in here like a smart ass, but i cant help but make this observation-

everytime i see the word tea bagger... politics is not exactly what comes to mind. some words should have never left the locker room

If anything I used the reverse-race card to make fun of Proggie stereotypes. Especially the one that all Teabaggers are bigots.

There was no intention to direct it at anyone.

I stand by that assertion and make no apologies, because no insult was intended.

You understand this, but the Professor sure as fuck didn't.

And I sure as fuck did not profile him as a Cracker who advances the idea that the South shall rise again.

It was that race card I was referring to, not the mention of the N-word which I intended quite innocently. That's right. N-word. I didn't even use the actual word.

Nor would I.

Killing police is pure insanity. The fact that this was attempted to be molded to fit your political agenda is typical.

Johnnyorganic said:

If anything I used the reverse-race card...

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Agreed, and sardonically in a very sharp and well-informed way.

But you used it in defense of people who made specific plans to harm police officers. Innocent pawns.

Don't mistake me, I agree the timing is IMPECCABLE. But....it is time for bed. To be continued...

Johnnyorganic said:

The OP, by mentioning Palin and Beck, obviously meant to include Teabaggers as a greater part of this grand conspiracy.

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Completely incorrect. You connected those dots, not me. I mentioned Palin and Beck as they are throwing fuel on an already burning inferno. The thought never crossed my mind that these people had anything to do with teabagging, I'm sure these people were on the edge long before we ever heard of Palin. Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, Bachmann and others are energizing people like this and its only a matter of time before we see another OKC scenario. Funny how the party that used the fear of terrorism for the past 8 years are now the ones igniting it.

FlyLikeAnEagle said:

Completely incorrect. You connected those dots, not me. I mentioned Palin and Beck as they are throwing fuel on an already burning inferno. The thought never crossed my mind that these people had anything to do with teabagging, I'm sure these people were on the edge long before we ever heard of Palin. Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, Bachmann and others are energizing people like this and its only a matter of time before we see another OKC scenario. Funny how the party that used the fear of terrorism for the past 8 years are now the ones igniting it.

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Exactly right.

I don't even remember anything like that happening when that guy threw his shoes at Bush - you didn't see anyone publicly saying "it should have been a bullet!" or "he should be dead!", etc. I only point that out to show a little difference in the party lines, I could really care less what anyone says to a president (or anyone else for that matter), it's the hypocrisy that is the issue.

I just saw Palin acknowledge that what her and her colleagues in the right wing media are doing is actually inciting violence - as she said "that's not inciting violence"... Smart girl that one...

What will it take to keep influential people from inciting violence on national air waves?