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Sativied

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Looking good man, removed a few more leaves than I would have done but some of them look really good. As for your pm questions, let me answer that with a few examples.


This one looks great:
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If I had plants that all looked like that I'd probably bend the main stem (90 degrees) or top it, but in addition to keeping those branches/bud sites at a similar level, you want to keep your plants at a similar height too so it depends on how tall or small it is compared to the rest. But right now that plant is already good for 7 or 8 bud sites besides the main cola.

This one looks pretty bad (structure-wise)
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It's too stretchy/lanky.

This one looks ok:
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But, you shaved too much of the legs, especially that branch on the right. If all your plants looked like that and you'd switch to flower, you'd probably have a pretty decent run though.

If they we're all like that Lemon Kush, or even like this one:
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and switch to flowering, you get better results than with 30x that Skunk#1 or that mighty grape plant.

You got 30 plants on 6x4, a sea of green, which is doable, but you only need like 60 colas to fill the space, that's only two main branches per plant. 18 plants with 4 main branches/colas each would work better. I'm not suggesting you trim them all down to 2 branches now.

Have you every noticed @thump easy's breeding journal thread? Some good examples there.
 

Sativied

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Not suggesting you do this now, just per example:
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That would leave 5 or 6 branches. That long branch on the left of the main stem, starting below the cut, you could then pinch and bend to keep it down, or hang a weight on it, or go full LST and tie it down. That bottom branch at he right I would, in that scenario, cut off. Not with the idea it's useless or gets no light or whatever, simply to pick a number of bud sites per plant, using the best branches that will end up at a similar height.

An alternative, which I do suggest you do but only if it's taller than the rest, and that's pinching the main stem on the same place where I would top it or one node higher, as in pinch it between your thumb and finger till it softens a little, then bend it 90 degrees. It'll look bad 12-24 hours but they can handle it and recover very nicely. Not the best example cause this plant is stressed but I do it frequently. The pinching before the bending helps prevent the stem from snapping.
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For perhaps a better idea of how plant branches become bud sites check out the mainlining thread. It's a bit too extreme for me but it shows nicely what we're talking about. Controlling the number of colas. UncleBen's topping thread has plenty of examples too.
 

thump easy

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ya fim an top for shure this shit gets wild fast realy fast...also the spaceing is important but looking great!!!
 

TheChemist77

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Not suggesting you do this now, just per example:
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That would leave 5 or 6 branches. That long branch on the left of the main stem, starting below the cut, you could then pinch and bend to keep it down, or hang a weight on it, or go full LST and tie it down. That bottom branch at he right I would, in that scenario, cut off. Not with the idea it's useless or gets no light or whatever, simply to pick a number of bud sites per plant, using the best branches that will end up at a similar height.

An alternative, which I do suggest you do but only if it's taller than the rest, and that's pinching the main stem on the same place where I would top it or one node higher, as in pinch it between your thumb and finger till it softens a little, then bend it 90 degrees. It'll look bad 12-24 hours but they can handle it and recover very nicely. Not the best example cause this plant is stressed but I do it frequently. The pinching before the bending helps prevent the stem from snapping.
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For perhaps a better idea of how plant branches become bud sites check out the mainlining thread. It's a bit too extreme for me but it shows nicely what we're talking about. Controlling the number of colas. UncleBen's topping thread has plenty of examples too.
thanks bro, i like the way u explained it, ill try for all to look more like that lemon kush u pointed out for next run, that lemon kush had 2 weeks less veg time than the skunk, critical mass, mighty grape and mellon gums..they all had a month of veg wile the lemon kush only had 2 weeks, and the lady purple and ultimate purple, so small as u can see only had a week veg, but i wanted to see how they go as i just found the moms to be female.. should i trim off the lower branches on any of the larger plants or just give them a week then trim lower stuff that will be popcorn? i trimmed to many leaves because my veg area was packed and i was trying to get more light to the tops on plants around them..
 

TheChemist77

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just thought id let u guys know on that last run, each strain, row ended up around a qp dried weight. so i ended up with a lb +a qp..this run should produce better,more plants and alot more tops thanks to topping and a little lst.. also to avoid yellowing early, dr.who recomended feeding w/ grow nutrients till week 3..thinking thats a little much so im giving them 1 week grow nutes,2nd week 80%bloom, 20%grow, and week 3 on 100%bloom nutrients.. at first sign of yellowing ill add a little grow if needed but only up to week 6.. i was told yellowing at the top is a sign of to much p..any body know if thats true??
 

TheChemist77

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week 2,, flower...put a second drain on pipes, running smooth, roots getting big..pipes gat a steady flow about an inch and a half deep of water, each of the 6 tubes gets about 100 gallonns per hour as i have a 600 gph pump w a 6 ft max and its only going up 2 feet. love this new water pump..
 

TheChemist77

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sorry, didnt put up pics for week 3 flower, but ill put up pics next week for week 4..the lemon kush plants have stretched to weell above all others and i had to bend the tops of 3 of the lemon kush tops..very large space between nodes on lemon kush,wile all others are nice tight nodes...those northern lights#5 pics are 2 plants at 2 months old,,notice how small they are, normally i can clone a plant at 1 month old..they must be bad genetics but they were 15 bucks a seed so im growing them till i can clone and sex them..i hope the clones will grow faster than the plants? it took a month just to get first true leaves on them, now they are almost 2 and 1/2 months old and just big enough to get 1 or 2 clones off each...must have been bad seeds!! anyways ill put up week 4 of bloom pics on wednesday feb 12 i think..
 
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