i have 2 600 watt hps above a 5x5 area and room temps never go above 65 under the lights,,thank outdoor cold wether for that as i have intakes and exaughsts that change the rooms air in a couple minutes.. i normally only veg my rooted clones a week or 2 max before flip or they get to tall.. i could try cutting all but the 3 top nodes before flip would that work? i try to never pinch the top just going into flower but i could top it just as it has root then give it a week before i flip.. i wouldnt want to top the day of flip is because it would stop the plant from stretching..thoughts? i like ur plants but you probably veg alot longer than 1-2 weeks wright?, did u see the size of my plants on day 1 of flower?? they were only 6-9 inches tall and now they are passing 2 feet, most of them. its diferent with lots of veg time but rooted clones w/1-2 weeks veg its hard to know what would happen pinching and not having time to recover..
ok gotchya.grow those up like you say.pinch all the nodes leaving only the top.clip all other branches going up so you only have one so it'll be a single bud.one big lollipop and you'll have 1 ounce colas and no larfy crap bud.i know you;ll be tempted to grow more than one branch ...but at least do one plant that way to see if it works...and I guarantee you'll learn sumthn.ALL the plants energy will be focused on that one cola instead of all the multi branch system you got going.Any finished product pics?
A grower at another forum coined the phrase 'pruned for main stems'. Ideally you do that as little as possible and as early as possible (during veg).
THANK YOU! damn, u must spend lots of time training ur plants, how long do you normally spend vegging each plant before flower to achieve so many tops?? if u look at page 1, day 1 of flower each of my plants were no larger than 1 foot tall at 1-2 weeks veg after rooted. i really want to try your method for my next run, i have 4 weeks, should i clone tomorrow ill have 3 weeks of veg time before i replace these plants in bloom..i guess i have alot of work to do, and hope if i top them or bend them a few days after root they will have enough time to recover before switch...IS it important for plants to be recovered or healed from topping or trimming before they go 12/12?? i really dont want to fuck this up, the way things are, as is i expect over a half pound at harvest,, my last run was northern lights, blue mystic and critical hog,,all were just like this no topping or bending and i ended up dried and bagged just under 3/4 a pound..had i grown all northern lights it would of been over 3/4's a pound..anyways thanks again to all of you for the info, i truly apreciate it..even after 10 years of grownig since ive joined this forum ive learned more than 10+ of hightimes and mj botany reading!!
Not really actually. 48 colas of topped plants doesn't require 48 wires, just the ones that stretch above the rest. I spend maybe a couple of hours on it in total.
I germinate and roots clones under 3x18w T8. So for the first 10-14 days or so. Then I place them under a 400watt. Top about a week later, then switch to 12/12 about a week later. That's very roughly... During transition (7-10 days) I continue to use the 400watt, sometimes switch to 600watt about half way, but at the latest when they're full on flowering (as in more than the pre-sex pistils). During transition I get a better idea of how many of those lower nodes there will be and if the plants are tall remove some at the bottom. Basically those that would otherwise form their own little bud site but too late in the game.
I guess that also depends on how mature they are when you flip. If you veg to maturity and have preflowers all over, alternating nodes it can switch to flowering in a week or even less, leaving little time to take the desired shape. They don't really need to heal though, especially not in a system like yours and in a proper setup/environment in general. My plants recover in hours, not days.
That's pretty much what I have in my setup, not sure exactly but it's definitely less than 2 inch deep. At least under the net cups it is, the elbows tilt down slightly and are more filled. I don't really have problem from roots blocking them but they do go through my 40mm return pipes back to the rez sometimes. If they manage to grow over the dam. Especially from seed with long taproot. I have a nylon sock around my water pump as a filter so it doesn't chop up roots if any make it back to the rez. After cutting down the plants I pull up each netcup and use a small saw to separate it from the root mass, after those are gone I can pull out all the roots in one pipe through one of the plant sites.
First indoor grow was 18 years ago, orange bud clones under 250w hps. I worked in a coffee shop shortly before that and lived near a grow shop that I frequently. Everybody (sort of speak) I knew was growing, even some of their parents. 5 plants were legal-ish back then, selling clones at grow shops too, so many people had as small 250-400w 1 bulb closet it just wasn't special. I've grown plants outdoors (balcony) and behind the window for fun after that but nothing serious till much later, about 7 years ago. After a few runs I stopped again...
I spent way too much on buying grams at coffeeshops, figured I should save myself some money and grow for myself (and my wife). 2 years ago I started again, still on soil, organics. After that run I built the tubes setup, have done 5 runs on that, and currently doing a run on soil (more plants for selection, need to remove males and rearrange the rest). Long story short, I haven't really had 'a' teacher, I've just seen a lot of examples, more bad than good. If anything, I had to 'unlearn' a lot of bullshit.