Bi-Partisan Senate report calls for sweeping effort to stop Russian trolls on social media platforms.

hanimmal

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This is the thing they are opinion news channel that is the event "in theyre opinion " so they can get away with saying pretty much anything they believe true and legally they are covered . I am a real person and not a troll. Unlike others i see on here most likely one of Bidens minions sent to cannabis forums to make a list who they need to silence
So then it is important to know the difference between a 'news story' and a talking head giving their 'opinion'. But that does not mean that they are not credible sources. They have to actually pay a lot of money when they say things that are false on the air. And unlike Fox's Hannity/Carlson/etc they don't argue in court that they are not actual news and can say anything that they want, because they have credibility.

lmao at your thinking that who you are getting yourself all worked up over is here because of Biden. You really are leaving yourself exposed to a world of stupidity by not reading the reports on the social media attack being conducted on our nation by Trump's trolls (foreign and domestic). If you are a real person like you say, it would be worth arming yourself with some actual knowledge and not the gossipy bullshit.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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And those people's conversations can be downloaded and linked to their other data from around the internet (Foreign militaries don't have to follow our internet laws) to attack them with information that they care about on any platform that they are most vulnerable to falling for the con. Because it all gets worked into those people on that MMA forum's bubble.

Imagine that continuous flow of easily deciphered data giving a up to date psycological profile that can be easily used in a spreadsheet to score the likelyhood of them already voted (or will vote) for Trump/Biden, and which boards to troll to get the biggest bang for their actual human being doing the trolling's time cat fishing Americans.
Our names show up blinking in red on Trump's database!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The war as begun, some fight the foreign threat, some the domestic, all enemies foreign and domestic. The battle is for the constitution in your country, the foundation and bulwark of freedom, but it is really against liberalism a broad assault on the institutions of liberty, the press, the courts, the legislatures, the voters, you name it.

Fortunately, you know what you are fighting for and have a clear purpose and intention, they are fuzzy headed at best, but united by bigotry and racism, that's the cement that holds the aggregate of grievance together. There are other causes like globalization, low skill unemployment and a life time of conditioning about how the world should be and a willingness to seek out narratives that support this world view. Unfortunately these sources have different agendas and when Trump goes those differences will become more apparent, as they will in the democratic party. The domestic disinformation sources have been united behind Trump and joined at the hip, he wants voters and they want an audience and ad revenue, or simply to promote an agenda that involves social division. Halting social and political progress using culture wars so they simple won't have to pay taxes and can have more "freedom" and control over government through the elected GOP.

The domestic disinformation system evolved over decades and is not under singular control and has no greater purpose than greed and driving an agenda that gives them an advantage, by subtilty using racism. Aristotle noted in ancient times if we provide a narrative of events, we can make the thoughts of others flow along channels that cut ever deeper into the mind over time and reinforcement. The decades old disinformation machine of hate radio, publications and TV has greatly expanded recently and YouTube, Facebook and twitter, offer not just new ways of spreading disinformation and propaganda (false or misleading narratives), but emotional and social support too, a sense of community, a tribe. Algorithms monitor our biases and preferences then reinforce them too creating a perfect social storm of unresolved social warfare colliding with information technology and globalization, with Trump in the center of the perfect storm consuming a polarized nation.
 

hanimmal

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Ill just repost this here in the hopes that you slow down long enough to actually read it.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/proud-boys-assaulting-a-couple-for-90-seconds-nsfw.1040022/post-15997050
this was part of a response from me to someone saying that democrats are not corrupt. i am not pro one-side or the other.
Right, but are you sure this is corrupt? What exactly about it is corrupt? Did Clinton have anything to do with the actual deal and how would she have known that the people donating to the Clinton foundation were apart of it (are you saying that they were apart of it even).

You do understand that the Democratic party did not see Russia as a enemy until they started their attack on our nation right? Shit Obama even said that in a debate with Romney.

Are you saying that this propagandized and spammed click bait of a story being sold to the Republicans on Right wing media is anything even close to Trump giving the Russian military all of the data on American citizens that he received from the RNC so that they could attack our citizens to help him beat Clinton?

It is not even close to being the same thing.

Nor is it even close to the same as Trump allowing the Saudi's (who are pumping millions into his pockets through his rental properties and hotels which is against our laws) to conduct genocide in Yemen with our weapons while murdering American journalists.

i think if we really want to make this country unified, we have to decide what we stand for. we can't give out passes to people that are doing wrong just because we like them or agree with their policies.
We won't be able to be unified until we can get people to understand the facts of the situation. When 20-30% of our nation is stuck in a information bubble created by Trump's troll army (foreign and domestic) they can't even agree on what a fact is.

And that is not a 'Right' 'Left' problem, everyone regardless of side is under this attack. Subtle little nudges pushing people apart in any way they can possibly find. Sorting through your friends lists to make sure anyone they can nudge is getting radicalized on whatever issue it is that they can divide them with in real life.

Until we can even agree that we are under a militarized assault, which Trump has spent 4 years actively stopping us from being able to see much less respond to, we won't be unified.

not once have i said that i choose one side or the other. you people boxed me in because i dare to air out dirt and question why it seemed acceptable that non-combative trump supporters (they exist) were assaulted but what happened in op's first post was an atrocity. it is don't get me wrong. i don't advocate violence toward anyone. and i really believe most of us just want peace.
I never said you did say you picked a side. "You people" just shows how little about the attack that the Russian military is conducting on our society you truly understand.

If I didn't say it, don't assume I even know what you are talking about.

If you are feeling under attack, ignore the person attacking you, because it is designed to stop you from being able to actually have a conversation without at the very least being on defense and no longer having a open mind as you feel the need to rebut everything which is impossible to do without reading more into what someone else has said.

Trolls are all around you man, this is what people need to start to understand before you can even move onto the actual full set of facts in any situation much less agree on how to overcome them.

trump should not have done that.

gonna play devil's advocate again on this one though. presidents pull shit bag moves all the time. president obama air dropped hundreds of millions in cash and gold in iran over night without congress. he also full on allowed them to develop nuclear power plants which put them close to a nuclear arms program. so, why is that cool? nobody gets a pass.
You know that the cash given to Iran was their money that was in banks outside of their country and we didn't give them shit. More made up nonsense trolling that the Trump noise factory is/was pushing.

Did you know there is a lot of science that is conducted with nuclear science that has nothing to do with actual nuclear weapons? It was something I learned when talking with some Iranian students who were studying in Phd programs when I was in school.

Can you blame them for wanting a stable power grid and all the great jobs that they could do with full access to all the worlds scientific advancements?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ill just repost this here in the hopes that you slow down long enough to actually read it.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/proud-boys-assaulting-a-couple-for-90-seconds-nsfw.1040022/post-15997050


Right, but are you sure this is corrupt? What exactly about it is corrupt? Did Clinton have anything to do with the actual deal and how would she have known that the people donating to the Clinton foundation were apart of it (are you saying that they were apart of it even).

You do understand that the Democratic party did not see Russia as a enemy until they started their attack on our nation right? Shit Obama even said that in a debate with Romney.

Are you saying that this propagandized and spammed click bait of a story being sold to the Republicans on Right wing media is anything even close to Trump giving the Russian military all of the data on American citizens that he received from the RNC so that they could attack our citizens to help him beat Clinton?

It is not even close to being the same thing.

Nor is it even close to the same as Trump allowing the Saudi's (who are pumping millions into his pockets through his rental properties and hotels which is against our laws) to conduct genocide in Yemen with our weapons while murdering American journalists.



We won't be able to be unified until we can get people to understand the facts of the situation. When 20-30% of our nation is stuck in a information bubble created by Trump's troll army (foreign and domestic) they can't even agree on what a fact is.

And that is not a 'Right' 'Left' problem, everyone regardless of side is under this attack. Subtle little nudges pushing people apart in any way they can possibly find. Sorting through your friends lists to make sure anyone they can nudge is getting radicalized on whatever issue it is that they can divide them with in real life.

Until we can even agree that we are under a militarized assault, which Trump has spent 4 years actively stopping us from being able to see much less respond to, we won't be unified.


I never said you did say you picked a side. "You people" just shows how little about the attack that the Russian military is conducting on our society you truly understand.

If I didn't say it, don't assume I even know what you are talking about.

If you are feeling under attack, ignore the person attacking you, because it is designed to stop you from being able to actually have a conversation without at the very least being on defense and no longer having a open mind as you feel the need to rebut everything which is impossible to do without reading more into what someone else has said.

Trolls are all around you man, this is what people need to start to understand before you can even move onto the actual full set of facts in any situation much less agree on how to overcome them.


You know that the cash given to Iran was their money that was in banks outside of their country and we didn't give them shit. More made up nonsense trolling that the Trump noise factory is/was pushing.

Did you know there is a lot of science that is conducted with nuclear science that has nothing to do with actual nuclear weapons? It was something I learned when talking with some Iranian students who were studying in Phd programs when I was in school.

Can you blame them for wanting a stable power grid and all the great jobs that they could do with full access to all the worlds scientific advancements?
Like I said, they give me a chance to rant at them. I know there are millions of Americans who would like to strangle the fucks with their bare hands and their number is growing by thousands daily.

Part of the solution is not love and understanding, but derision and excoriation, you fight lies with the truth, sometimes the blunt truth. Don't get into the weeds with them, go for motives and intentions on moral and ethical issues. Go for the throat and call them out right off the bat. Just ask them if Trump is an asshole, provoke a response from the ambiguous and fence sitters. They will seldom reveal their true motives that would be embarrassing and even dangerous, overt racism can get you fired or destroy your life. It is this cognitive dissidence caused by their conditioning, current reality and their failure to psychologically adapt that is the main issue. Most everything else including guns and the role of government etc, is smoke and mirrors. The NRA was a white gun owners con job, gun owning blacks were murdered by cops with impunity.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Make the tax variable and set by a committee, based upon how much information /vs disinformation they create and propagate. Put a cost on bullshit, an economic disincentive, these companies are reaching into other countries and destroying local media that people depend on. America needs to do something about it or you will be treated like the Russians or any other source of disinformation and propaganda. Anti mask and antivaccer bullshit kills Canadians and other people as well as Americans. A ban from the EU and Canada along with whoever else has an issue with it (most everybody) will do a lot to help fix America, who is incapable of protecting itself from it. We will provide the firewall software for free and help configure systems.

Zuck only cares about the bucks and the buck might stop at the US border. Trump would have broken treaties and the law over taxes and attempts to curb bullshit. Steps to curb disinformation on social media platforms would probably be quietly welcomed by Joe, his allies might do what he can't. Win the senate and you can take care of the domestic broadcast and cable disinformation system using their covid coverage to destroy them and put fox in a box. Your Canadian, Australian, EU and other allies can have a conference about it and choke it on the internet by cutting the ad revenue and eyeballs they reach. They will do the work for profit, but for nothing else and they make money with disinformation now.
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Trudeau's digital tax flexes Canada's muscles with Trump on the way out - POLITICO

Trudeau's digital tax flexes Canada's muscles with Trump on the way out
"The idea that Canada would go ahead with an early tax probably would have invited a tariff by Trump," says one observer.

OTTAWA — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's bolder stance on digital taxes could be an early sign Canada is ready to take more chances with a Biden presidency next door.
By comparison, Trudeau’s government always walked on eggshells around the unpredictable Trump administration.
Now it's threatening to go it alone with a tax on tech giants like Google, Amazon and Facebook — a stand it may never have taken had President Donald Trump won reelection.

Canada's readiness to impose a unilateral digital tax on the revenues of large web companies — almost all of which are U.S.-based — could be a test of the new cross-border dynamic following President-elect Joe Biden’s election win.
Biden is expected to oppose unilateral digital taxes just like his predecessor. But his victory is also widely expected to restore a neighborly tone and, perhaps, bring an end to U.S. tariff threats directed north of the frontier.

Just tough talk? A closer read of the situation suggests Canada may never actually have to act alone on a digital tax — and that the announcement may be more about posturing than anything concrete.

The Liberal government said it will impose the unilateral tax in January 2022, but only if international talks aimed at finding a global solution to the issue fail to strike a deal. There’s optimism the negotiations could produce an agreement by mid-2021.

Tip-toeing around Trump: The president provoked a major trade showdown by imposing punishing tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum during the NAFTA talks. In the process, he even lashed out on Twitter at Trudeau himself, calling him “Very dishonest & weak.”

Since the start, Trudeau has been particularly cautious in public appearances and comments involving Trump. Canada’s prime minister even reportedly rehearsed how to shake hands before their first meeting in February 2017 so he would be able to come off strong while not antagonizing the president.

Behind the walk back: Trudeau’s Liberals promised during Canada’s 2019 election campaign to impose a unilateral tax on Big Tech. But after winning reelection, the government moved away from the pledge, right around the time Trump threatened to hit France with levies on its goods over plans from Paris to unilaterally tax digital giants.
Washington has argued the French digital tax would disproportionately hurt U.S. companies.

Almost certainly taking note, the Liberal government abandoned its campaign promise and said it was content to wait for a global digital tax agreement to emerge from ongoing talks involving 135 countries and led by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development.

“The idea that Canada would go ahead with an early tax probably would have invited a tariff by Trump,” Jack Mintz, a University of Calgary tax policy expert, said in an interview about the Liberals’ decision to hold off on going solo with a digital tax.

“It may have been [that] the Canadian government didn’t want to poke the hornet’s nest … It made sense, I think, for Canada to probably back off from that point.”

Bolder steps during a Biden transition: Michael Geist, chair of internet and e-commerce law at the University of Ottawa, said after the U.S. response became readily apparent the Trudeau government appeared to backtrack from its digital-tax promise.
"The opposition to the French proposal was unsurprising and I think we can expect the same kind of opposition from the U.S. on the Canadian proposal, if it goes ahead,” Geist said in an interview.
He warned it would be a miscalculation on Canada’s part if it’s moving forward now because it predicts a softer reaction from Biden.
“I see little reason to expect that a Biden administration would act or respond much differently to a unilateral proposal to siphon away tax revenue from the U.S. to another country,” Geist said. “It doesn’t matter whether it’s Canada, France or any other country.”
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Are you an American and are you ok with the attack that the Russian military is conducting on our citizens?
Do you seriously think he cares about treason? Do you think he cares about democracy? Do you think he cares about the country? NO he does not, he cares about white supremacy and ONLY white supremacy, there are only fascist and misguided morons among the republicans these days. After the results of this past election and 4 years of Trump, mere ignorance is not an excuse in a sea of honest information that they must swim through to get to the turd of choice.

Forget facts, they don't work, if you can't trust them with your own freedom and the health and safety of your children, you can't trust them. Personally I would look them in the eye and tell them that, I have no interest in listening to lies blathered by racist and I'd call them that too, brother, sister, mother, father makes no difference. They wanna betray me, mine and country they lose me from their lives and I tell everybody they know why. You lose nothing, they hate and fear more than they can love and threw you and their country under the bus for a fuzzy dream of genocide. They knew better and if they didn't they are idiots and don't think for a second that that the path they are on doesn't lead to mass murder and genocide, it's always the end of the road for such things if left unrestrained. You already have mass murder and crimes against humanity in service of this psychco, right now they attempted a coup and continue to support one in congress.

Forget facts, you will have better luck with a gun, cause they won't have an issue with using one on you, or supporting it. War is Hell, get used to the fact. They don't need love and understanding, that only comes after change and contrition, they must feel social pressure to know that they have done wrong and to try to do better. Ridicule, derision and open contempt for them as moral failures and racist traitors, it's unpleasant, but so is what they want to do to you and what they would support, genocide. Don't kid yourself, kids in cages and no media allowed would be brown people behind razor wire and a final solution. They are all racists, every one of them is driven by fear and hate, nothing can jerk your chain like it, nothing.

They have to be related to somebody, me and you, this is not a disagreement about politics, politics ended with these people before Trump, he was just the ugly face who made it obvious for those in denial.
 

hanimmal

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Do you seriously think he cares about treason? Do you think he cares about democracy? Do you think he cares about the country? NO he does not, he cares about white supremacy and ONLY white supremacy, there are only fascist and misguided morons among the republicans these days. After the results of this past election and 4 years of Trump, mere ignorance is not an excuse in a sea of honest information that they must swim through to get to the turd of choice.

Forget facts, they don't work, if you can't trust them with your own freedom and the health and safety of your children, you can't trust them. Personally I would look them in the eye and tell them that, I have no interest in listening to lies blathered by racist and I'd call them that too, brother, sister, mother, father makes no difference. They wanna betray me, mine and country they lose me from their lives and I tell everybody they know why. You lose nothing, they hate and fear more than they can love and threw you and their country under the bus for a fuzzy dream of genocide. They knew better and if they didn't they are idiots and don't think for a second that that the path they are on doesn't lead to mass murder and genocide, it's always the end of the road for such things if left unrestrained. You already have mass murder and crimes against humanity in service of this psychco, right now they attempted a coup and continue to support one in congress.

Forget facts, you will have better luck with a gun, cause they won't have an issue with using one on you, or supporting it. War is Hell, get used to the fact. They don't need love and understanding, that only comes after change and contrition, they must feel social pressure to know that they have done wrong and to try to do better. Ridicule, derision and open contempt for them as moral failures and racist traitors, it's unpleasant, but so is what they want to do to you and what they would support, genocide. Don't kid yourself, kids in cages and no media allowed would be brown people behind razor wire and a final solution. They are all racists, every one of them is driven by fear and hate, nothing can jerk your chain like it, nothing.

They have to be related to somebody, me and you, this is not a disagreement about politics, politics ended with these people before Trump, he was just the ugly face who made it obvious for those in denial.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/bi-partisan-senate-report-calls-for-sweeping-effort-to-stop-russian-trolls-on-social-media-platforms.997908/post-15862057

I stopped reading after the first couple lines. But I am guessing I answered it in the post I linked. If I am wrong feel free to let me know.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Don't blame Trump and don't blame the media, blame them they are responsible for themselves and their behavior. Sure destroy the disinformation network and regulate social media, but they had to get through a lot of truth to the media choice that confirmed their biases. Even people in countries like the old USSR with only state propaganda and everything else suppressed knew the truth if they wanted too and most did.

Put the responsibility where it belongs on the individual, nobody is responsible for their choices but them. When a lunatic with a gun mass murders, you hold him accountable for the act and only bitch about the media sources that helped and directed the hate that was already there. It works the same way for those who voted for Trump, stop making excuses for them and make them accountable. This fascist shit existed in the American south, before the age of mass media, it existed all through out America and was unified by mass media and social media, nationally and even internationally.

Fight it any way you can, including surprising disinformation and even ideas, like death camps for black folks for instance, first amendment my ass. It starts and ends with individuals though, me and you included, use the education system to make better people, there are proven ways to do this. We have suppressed them to the point where they dare not speak it's name, so they got Trump to do it for them and show us their ugly face of hate and fear.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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https://www.rollitup.org/t/bi-partisan-senate-report-calls-for-sweeping-effort-to-stop-russian-trolls-on-social-media-platforms.997908/post-15862057

I stopped reading after the first couple lines. But I am guessing I answered it in the post I linked. If I am wrong feel free to let me know.
Stop blaming the Russians and start blaming your relatives, the Russians don't give a fuck, your relatives might though. Joe will take care of Vlad and if you win the senate they will help. Private for profit disinformation and social division is more of a problem. In the age of mass media and psychological mass manipulation the 1st amendment might be a bigger problem than the second, other free countries do just fine without such nonsense.

I can see why it is necessary in America though, since you were almost half fascist since the beginning, slavery was the original sin. The law was used as a bludgeon against minorities instead of a tool for social harmony, intention is everything. Now the law is used to get your political opponents as opposed to promoting national unity, social harmony and protect society. Laws that I would promote do those things, suppressing social division, promoting national unity, equal human rights and the protection of communities and the nation.

America has only really been a true democratic country since the mid sixties though, since the voters rights act, so you are new at this stuff and are still learning the ropes.
 

hanimmal

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Stop blaming the Russians and start blaming your relatives, the Russians don't give a fuck, your relatives might though. Joe will take care of Vlad and if you win the senate they will help. Private for profit disinformation and social division is more of a problem. In the age of mass media and psychological mass manipulation the 1st amendment might be a bigger problem than the second, other free countries do just fine without such nonsense.

I can see why it is necessary in America though, since you were almost half fascist since the beginning, slavery was the original sin. The law was used as a bludgeon against minorities instead of a tool for social harmony, intention is everything. Now the law is used to get your political opponents as opposed to promoting national unity, social harmony and protect society. Laws that I would promote do those things, suppressing social division, promoting national unity, equal human rights and the protection of communities and the nation.

America has only really been a true democratic country since the mid sixties though, since the voters rights act, so you are new at this stuff and are still learning the ropes.
Blaming who for what?
 

hanimmal

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/12/16/reed-galen-trumpism-lincoln-project/Screen Shot 2020-12-17 at 10.00.56 AM.png
While President Trump will leave office as a failed, one-term president, the fight against Trumpism is just beginning.

A year ago, The Lincoln Project launched with two stated goals: First, Defeat Donald Trump at the ballot box. Second, ensure Trumpism failed alongside him. We are proud to have been a part of the broad and deep coalition that helped elect Joe Biden and Kamala D. Harris to the White House. Trumpism, however, is far from extinction.

The six weeks since Election Day have seen much of the Republican Party, the party of Abraham Lincoln, turn fully against American democracy.

Trump’s allies and abettors, including more than 100 lawmakers and 18 Republican state attorneys general, tried to poison our political system in the service of a personality cult. Theirs is a veneration driven not by high ideals but by fear, resentment and a transparent desire to maintain power for its own sake.

Even now, many Republicans in Congress continue to try, by ludicrous and quixotic means, to overturn the will of more than 80 million voters. This week, Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) privately warned Republicans not to disrupt the official opening of electoral votes on Jan. 6.

Their allies in the right-wing media ecosphere have increased the volume so much that a majority of Republicans now believe the election was stolen from Trump, despite Biden’s clear and overwhelming victory. Trump and his Republican allies continue to degrade the electoral process and talk of continued challenges, all to feed the ego of a malignant narcissist who refuses to concede his decisive defeat. Last weekend, the Proud Boys rampaged in downtown Washington, reminding us that violence is their next iteration.

We must combat these forces, everywhere and all the time. It will take the dedication of citizens of all political beliefs to recognize that what Trumpism represents is far outside the American mainstream. Progressives will need to join with conservatives.
Independents will need to join the army of decency and democracy.

There is an aversion by some to take a binary view of this fight. But this is a basic choice: Trumpism or America.

Trump’s camp followers, such as Stephen K. Bannon, Alex Jones, Fox News, OAN, Newsmax and many others, will not stop actively injecting disinformation into the country’s air supply. They are highly skilled, and we must not underestimate their ability to pull us apart and keep us divided. Trump’s helpmates have called for honorable public officials to be beheaded, drawn and quartered and taken outside to be shot. They are living proof of what former president Ronald Reagan said: "Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from extinction."

Today, it is not too much to say that we are only one election from the end of the American experiment. Until and unless we excise and remove Trumpism from American life, the foundations of our democracy — that make all the other arguments and actions possible — will collapse. We cannot allow this on our watch.

As we prosecute the fight against the Boogaloo Boys, the false evangelical prophets and the authoritarian media outlets, there are a few things each of us can do. Like the millions of people who have followed the Lincoln Project, communicate with your elected officials and let them know you’re watching. Next, be prepared to take action — through peaceful demonstrations, public awareness campaigns, volunteering and voting, to ensure your friends, neighbors and family know what’s at stake.

We must also understand why 74 million Americans thought Trump was a better option than Biden. Despite using the Oval Office for his own gain, making a mockery of the presidency and allowing covid-19 to rampage across the nation, voters of all stripes made this choice.

Why? Perhaps a third are the MAGA faithful. Another third bought into the blatant fearmongering around “socialism” and “defund the police.” The last 25 million or so voters? They most likely have always voted Republican and cannot imagine doing otherwise.
Regardless of their reasoning, we must begin communicating with these voters who have fallen in line behind a megalomaniac with authoritarian goals.

Those of us who voted for Biden and Harris must remember that our coalition is our best offense and defense. Though we will not agree on everything, we must march forward together against the forces of authoritarianism. We must fight for the foundations of a democratic society: A new voting rights act. A new civil rights act. Increased election security and a commitment to keep foreign actors out of our elections.

Lastly, we must identify, call out, and repudiate any and all false information, lies and fiction with which the Republican Party and its allies infect the American political bloodstream. We must remind people that open sewer pipes such as Facebook and Parler are the propagators of authoritarian belief, racism and white-nationalist terror.

If we do all this, we will win this fight, and we will enjoy the quiet pride knowing that we stood up when our country and our fellow citizens needed it most.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Blaming who for what?
Trump and the fascism you are experiencing right now, individuals are responsible for their actions, not the media they subject themselves to voluntarily. Though for profit promotion of social division and mass murder (covid) needs to be suppressed. There were and still are laws that require mass media to be a public service and it was and is quickly stomped on if it becomes a source of social division. Some people think the Nazi's should have their own TV network and in a way, they have several in America, under the protection of the first amendment. Most of think Jesus hand delivered the constitution though and that subsequent generations are incapable of critical thought. They don't know what the word amendment means, to mend that which was mistaken, omitted or just plain wrong.
 
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