l.e.ds vs hps

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patrickkawi37

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churchhaze said:
........ When did i say this? This is the same straw-man argument you just made earlier. For you, maybe HPS is the right choice. I recommend HPS to most people that ask what type of lamp they should get...

But that doesn't mean HPS is more efficient. HPS has an efficiency between 30-42% depending on the type. My DIY CXB build is 49.1% efficient. It's a clear winner in terms of efficiency regardless of whether it's a better choice in terms of money.
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So we can agree.. That unless you are growing purely to be as efficient as you can with your electricity.. Than LED IS NOT FOR YOU
 
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patrickkawi37

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KarmaPaymentPlan said:
you do realize that your an idiot if your growing for profit
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Well my family is poor so they aren't going to let me freeload.. And considering most people graduating college now a days are moving back in with there parents .. I'd say the options are limited for a decent job now a days. just so happens that I grow cannabis very well. So well that I can afford to support myself from it. I am growing legally , only dealing with dispensaries. Explain to me how I am an idiot? What do you do for a living and how much do you make
 
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patrickkawi37

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KarmaPaymentPlan said:
you do realize that your an idiot if your growing for profit less power to pay for more money in your pocket
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I enjoy the hell out of some
Coors light. Should we get mad at the people that make a profit from coors
Light? How about Advil? Thats a medicine people
Need, should they do so for noprofit ? Also considering dispensaries are the thugs making all the money and ripping people off..
Does this mean I should give it cheaper to the dispensary ? Because we all know they arent going to sell it to the public cheaper
 
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REALSTYLES

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patrickkawi37 said:
So we can agree.. That unless you are growing purely to be as efficient as you can with your electricity.. Than LED IS NOT FOR YOU
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Now it's time. I've been waiting to say this. I don't give a fuck how much it cost me to make a light which in turn give me a better yield and lower heat and last 5 yrs or more and if I was to use 5000-6000 watts of my led panels would cover 3 of your grow areas. Don't forget I've started flowering and will have pics weekly. Patrick you say you don't worry about the electricity bill but worry about up front cost shows your age. Maybe in 20yrs you'll get some common sense REAL talk.
 
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patrickkawi37

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a mongo frog said:
Well in all honesty the top of the line cost 500 per lamp, then your probobly want the controller that talks to them all. I think thats 300 or something.
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I get ballasts for 185 raptor hoods for 175 and bulbs for 30 . Under 400 bucks for a setup . Vs whatever the hell those leds cost . It's no comparison . Plus I get no questions asked returns of something breaks
 
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patrickkawi37

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REALSTYLES said:
Now it's time. I've been waiting to say this. I don't give a fuck how much it cost me to make a light which in turn give me a better yield and lower heat and last 5 yrs or more and if I was to use 5000-6000 watts of my led panels would cover 3 of your grow areas. Don't forget I've started flowering and will have pics weekly. Patrick you say you don't worry about the electricity bill but worry about up front cost shows your age. Maybe in 20yrs you'll get some common sense REAL talk.
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That's because you grow for fun
 
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REALSTYLES

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patrickkawi37 said:
I get ballasts for 185 raptor hoods for 175 and bulbs for 30 . Under 400 bucks for a setup . Vs whatever the hell those leds cost . It's no comparison . Plus I get no questions asked returns of something breaks
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It only cost double that's all. Takes money to make money.
 
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a mongo frog

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patrickkawi37 said:
I get ballasts for 185 raptor hoods for 175 and bulbs for 30 . Under 400 bucks for a setup . Vs whatever the hell those leds cost . It's no comparison . Plus I get no questions asked returns of something breaks
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I thought you meant top of the line like gavita. Raptor hoods are like 115 out the door. Barley used for 85 bucks.
 
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patrickkawi37

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REALSTYLES said:
Now it's time. I've been waiting to say this. I don't give a fuck how much it cost me to make a light which in turn give me a better yield and lower heat and last 5 yrs or more and if I was to use 5000-6000 watts of my led panels would cover 3 of your grow areas. Don't forget I've started flowering and will have pics weekly. Patrick you say you don't worry about the electricity bill but worry about up front cost shows your age. Maybe in 20yrs you'll get some common sense REAL talk.
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Yet you complain about the cost of running acs . You make no sense lol. I don't care about upfront cost. I care about how much is made at the end of the year how many times
Must I say this . What matters to me is that I pull X pounds per run . If I could get a few pounds less to use half the electricity and no air conditioners.. I would still be making LESS.
 
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patrickkawi37

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a mongo frog said:
I thought you meant top of the line like gavita. Raptor hoods are like 115 out the door. Barley used for 85 bucks.
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I
Don't think I can use gavita because of the height in my room
But I have been looking and the E series is about 450 bucks my cost .
Not a bad deal if I could get them to work in my box
 
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REALSTYLES

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patrickkawi37 said:
That's because you grow for fun
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Yeah ok. I live in Socal buddy and I know people. I don't need to vend to dispensaries. I'm the clone guy and $10-$20 a pop sure adds up. I don't sell the heavy yielders because guys like you want og's so that's what I clone. If you ever need some Mad man og or GSC hit me up lol. I even clone organically if you need them to be lol. I do have fun making money. This summer I'm gonna make it hard for you to sell this coming Croptober for I'm doing an outdoor at my buddies house lol.
 
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KarmaPaymentPlan

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patrickkawi37 said:
Yet you complain about the cost of running acs . You make no sense lol. I don't care about upfront cost. I care about how much is made at the end of the year how many times
Must I say this . What matters to me is that I pull X pounds per run . If I could get a few pounds less to use half the electricity and no air conditioners.. I would still be making LESS.
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you have no business plan usually people try to cut down expenses to make more money and i work a 12 an hour job that i support somebody else with and still grow weed for my friends and family for free more then not and i do it with a little planning and a budget
 
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