l.e.ds vs hps

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patrickkawi37

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REALSTYLES said:
Yeah ok. I live in Socal buddy and I know people. I don't need to vend to dispensaries. I'm the clone guy and $10-$20 a pop sure adds up. I don't sell the heavy yielders because guys like you want og's so that's what I clone. If you ever need some Mad man og or GSC hit me up lol. I even clone organically if you need them to be lol. I do have fun making money. This summer I'm gonna make it hard for you to sell this coming Croptober for I'm doing an outdoor at my buddies house lol.
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REALSTYLES said:
Yeah ok. I live in Socal buddy and I know people. I don't need to vend to dispensaries. I'm the clone guy and $10-$20 a pop sure adds up. I don't sell the heavy yielders because guys like you want og's so that's what I clone. If you ever need some Mad man og or GSC hit me up lol. I even clone organically if you need them to be lol. I do have fun making money. This summer I'm gonna make it hard for you to sell this coming Croptober for I'm doing an outdoor at my buddies house lol.
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Don't take offense to this but even if you gave me your genetics for free I wouldn't grow them. I grow high yielding ogs or sativas that yield and stink too loud for people to say no. Gsc is a break even strain in SoCal. Not to mention, I don't know any grower that would sell good genetics for 10'bucks a cut. And knowing the industry well... The clone guy of the circle is usually the guy who is having trouble making ends meet with flowers. That's usually the last person you go to for cuts.. Unless you personally gave them your genetics to clone for you
 
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patrickkawi37

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KarmaPaymentPlan said:
you have no business plan usually people try to cut down expenses to make more money and i work a 12 an hour job that i support somebody else with and still grow weed for my friends and family for free more then not and i do it with a little planning and a budget
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Cutting down my expenses to get less weed is less profitable. If you knew SoCal you would know that your not surviving right now if you don't have a good business plan or a good grower. Please stop telling me how to run my business when you Have a day job working for someone else.
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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patrickkawi37 said:
Don't take offense to this but even if you gave me your genetics for free I wouldn't grow them. I grow high yielding ogs or sativas that yield and stink too loud for people to say no. Gsc is a break even strain in SoCal. Not to mention, I don't know any grower that would sell good genetics for 10'bucks a cut. And knowing the industry well... The clone guy of the circle is usually the guy who is having trouble making ends meet with flowers. That's usually the last person you go to for cuts.. Unless you personally gave them your genetics to clone for you
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Funny thing man I didn't say you'd get my Blue dream. I said og's not heavy yielders and I'm not telling what strains they are and stop taking oxy it's affecting sense of reality.
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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patrickkawi37 said:
So find me 9'leds that will cover a 18x15 canopy and yield 20 lbs
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AAAHH mine will I just have them turned down for summer lol but in the winter full blast. I can use 2 in a 4x8 tent when full blast but 4 like now at 45% power. If I can remember don't the digital ballast you can only dim to 60%?
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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patrickkawi37 said:
Don't take offense to this but even if you gave me your genetics for free I wouldn't grow them. I grow high yielding ogs or sativas that yield and stink too loud for people to say no. Gsc is a break even strain in SoCal. Not to mention, I don't know any grower that would sell good genetics for 10'bucks a cut. And knowing the industry well... The clone guy of the circle is usually the guy who is having trouble making ends meet with flowers. That's usually the last person you go to for cuts.. Unless you personally gave them your genetics to clone for you
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Bro not true. The clone guy is over worked in most circles. And does very well if he's on his shit. The clone guy tends to about 10-15 mother plants 365 days a year. Hardest part of growing i believe is mother plants and getting cuts off the same plants every 3 weeks. The og thing, I've never ran across a real og thats a heavy yeider. Usually long veg times or good gardeners are the reason of big yields on og's.
 
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patrickkawi37

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REALSTYLES said:
AAAHH mine will I just have them turned down for summer lol but in the winter full blast. I can use 2 in a 4x8 tent when full blast but 4 like now at 45% power. If I can remember don't the digital ballast you can only dim to 60%?
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I don't dim my ballasts . But I think they go 60%. Lumatek has some that are 400 /600 /100/superlumens.2 of them in a 4 x 8 space wouldn't cover what I need ... I need coverage of 8 4x8s. That's 16 of your leds for what I cover with 9 hps . At which point I wouldn't be saving any electricity running 7'more fixtures
 
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churchhaze

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patrickkawi37 said:
It doesn't exist
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Yes it does. Did you even read the datasheet? At 500mA, the operating point of my DIY lamp, the cxb2530 U2 flux bin has a luminous efficacy of ~160lm/W. Even if you think lumens is the most important rating, it even wins in lumens. It's says this right on the datasheet! Do you think CREE makes up all the charts and ratings they put on their datasheets?
 
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patrickkawi37

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a mongo frog said:
Bro not true. The clone guy is over worked in most circles. And does very well if he's on his shit. The clone guy tends to about 10-15 mother plants 365 days a year. Hardest part of growing i believe is mother plants and getting cuts off the same plants every 3 weeks. The og thing, I've never ran across a real og thats a heavy yeider. Usually long veg times or good gardeners are the reason of big yields on og's.
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I'm not a good gardener but I veg the fuck out of my plants . 8 weeks sometimes
More lol . That's why only 4 batches a year
 
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a mongo frog

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patrickkawi37 said:
I'm not a good gardener but I veg the fuck out of my plants . 8 weeks sometimes
More lol . That's why only 4 batches a year
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Some would say thats too long of veg for what your doing. A guy running half that veg time will eventually lap you and end up yielding more. Because he's already more then half way through flower by the time your on you last week of veg.
 
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patrickkawi37

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a mongo frog said:
Some would say thats too long of veg for what your doing. A guy running half that veg time will eventually lap you and end up yielding more. Because he's already more then half way through flower by the time your on you last week of veg.
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I understand but he will have higher plant count and has overhead and stress of 1more run a year. With potentially less yield we end up the same . I don't go over my plant number no matter what
 
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REALSTYLES

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patrickkawi37 said:
I understand but he will have higher plant count and has overhead and stress of 1more run a year. With potentially less yield we end up the same . I don't go over my plant number no matter what
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No. you can't grow big plants I do and as for less plants you have way too many in the pics I saw especially the blue dream 8 week veg those things should have been monsters. After I'm done playing with these lights and strains I'll go back to 4 plants in a 4x4 area and grow some heavy yielding strains because I can and no 8 week veg. I've still have a lot of learning to do. But you still won't be as good as me at growing.
 
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