Deusracing
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like i said knowledge of plants and their problems will help first without ppm.. thats all I'm trying to say.. trying to get this person going on a budget thats all
Diving into hydro!
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Deusracing
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cool sorry to assume that.. then by all means get that ppm meter.. just trying to explain you really don't need all the stuff people tell you you need.. just trying to help man.. the guy stated how can you grow without all this.. my answer was how did they grow it for 1000's of years with out these new devices.. any how theres a lot of us on here with so many opinions.. guess its up to you to figure out which one of us stoners you want to listen too.. LOL just kidding. were all here to help but with different methods.. now me I've used all goring methods within 8 months and any issues i had were fixed by knowledge not ppm..
Deusracing
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yes veg n bloom is all you need and ph up or down. this is one stop drop plain and simple all this crap is marketing techniques.. I've tried all sorts of stuff including nectar for gods 4 part in hydro tried nasty roots organics buddah grow and bloom
Yodaweed
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I would suggest getting a PH meter and an EC/TDS meter I use an Oakton PH pen and it works great, make sure you keep a little solution in the tip of the pen so it doesn't dry up. I also use a HM digital EC/TDS meter it was only like 40$ but works better than my 90$ oakton TDS low pen.
RetiredMatthebrute
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even on a budget i bought my PPM pen for 25 bucks, calabration solutions were 12 bucks for the set 4.01 and 7.0. my PH pen is a hanah instruments and it cost 20 bucks, calabration solution was another 10 bucks. money well spent. i like to test my water weekly to make sure the ppm and PH are both in range. a plant can and will grow with no signs of issues if the PH is not in ideal range BUT they will not be able to uptake nutrients at the full potential meaning slowed growth and less yeild.
PetFlora
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I mostly agree, especially with some nutes
In 2 years of close monitoring I find Hydroponic Research V + B to be extremely pH stable, especially throughout veg
Now during flower plants dump a lot of waste through their roots.Checking pH and ppm daily is important. Keep in mind feeding all the buds sucks up a lot of water as well, another contributor to daily ppm increase
PetFlora
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How about a modified F & D tray?
Simply cut a small hole on the side/front of the tent for ~ 1" pvc tubing tubing
Put a small pump (~ 150 gph) on a deep cycle timer
Outboard rez makes life so much easier,
PLUS, it's better to NOT have roots soaking in nutes 24/7
ElfoodStampo
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These are what I went with instead of plasmas
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RetiredMatthebrute
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why no poly film on sides even if its just a false wall of panda film you will reflect alot of lost light.
theking2202004
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Leds are not very expensive at all. I got 2 400w leds for 385$ Shipped. I also bought a 600w led for 210. 3yr warranty and 5w diodes. Yes leds are expensive at the grow shops and eBay.
Deusracing
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very nice
Deusracing
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well guess i was wrong.. is yours made in USA and can you return if that shit fails... I know if my plasma fails its simply one phone call away and boom within hours a new ones send out... Will not buy chinese led. i cannot support that country why ours is failing... yes i know most are built there... but i like my USA built good job on the 2 400w under rated led.. i don't trust their ratings its like an old Kraco power booster says 300w. when in reality its 25 watts of distortion.. BML california light works Area 51 Kind yes id look into Chameleon NEVER lamps are a Joke in my eyes... don't support that guys company whatsoever. selling used shit yes discounted but with original I don't know how many hours on it lamp.. JOKE just saying
theking2202004
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They were sent from Cerritos California. Took 3 days to get them. Mar II leds are what I got. 3 yrs warranty. I was doing research on leds for a year. This forum had people who bought the same leds just older models and they've had them for years. I agree with buying usa only, but I would've spent at least 2500$ on American leds. I'm happy with my purchase.
I have a California Light Works SS 440.... I had two diodes not function and they shipped me a brand new one over night... 90 money back guarantee and a 3 year full warranty. But yea you pay for all that as its one of the most expensive LEDs on the market. Deus... I would LOVE to compare the Plasma to my CLW SS440. But i do not have the space for a second tent. otherwise I probably would have that new Plasma that rocket is coming out with on pre order lol.
Petflora I am going to look into building that table. I have access to any tool imaginable and a huge warehouse full of resources to play with lol... Dont be surprised if i have to send you a pm thou! lol
Do you know what power you are actually drawing with those LEDS? I know my solarstorm puts out like 350 of actual watts. I have seen lots of people with the 400w-600w Only drawing like 20% of the actaul rating. Not that it matters, as I believe even the crappy LED's work with good growers.
Deusracing
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the draw out of the rocket is 228-230 its +- 5 watts like most.. but i have HIGH voltage in my home I'm at 122v stable no matter what.. that does take into account the performance.. just like Plasma tv or led if your power input is 110v in your home your electronics are not functioning to their fullest potential.. anyways let me know on the california lamp i love technology.. but i will say the heat and no fans needed for rocket plasma I did that.. I'm at 82.4 on hot days with that rocket with 400hps in there.. I'm gonna be doing side by side soon. HPS vs Plasma in same tent yeah i know its hard cuz of cross lighting.. but when your doing one plant under each its all good... inbox me about the rocket if your interested ill get you set up with them... Tanya over there is wonderful... a girl and her garden she's the real deal... simply look at their companies background vs most.. plus the asthetics of the lamp its gorgeous ... just my opinion
on the chinese stuff i don't hate them products i mean i sold electronic cigs for a year and loved their products vs some of over priced USA ones..But all in all when i can pick up my phone and call Rocket and they answer and the owner talks to me i dig that... its a small business not your corporate
Sinsay
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a touch lower is better But you do fine I could never get any where with soil but picked up hydro fast
Deusracing
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only got 4 of them left i early harvested cuz i was out yeah I'm an idiot but that shit had me where i needed to be at the time
tell you my soil pots just 1L look so nice man there gorgeous tops this pic is a month old but you get it
only got 4 of them left i early harvested cuz i was out yeah I'm an idiot but that shit had me where i needed to be at the time
theking2202004
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It says 235 +\- 5w on the back of it. I'm using these as supplemental lighting, i know what my hps is capable of.