dick-cheney-torture-i-would-do-it-again-in-a-minute-official-thread

[UncleBuck]

love the hiphugger bellbottom look
The elephant bells need to make a comeback. I see levi has hiphugger bellbottom jeans again for women. That's cool. I don't think us men can pull off that look anymore. Although the 40's zoot suit fashion is still badass in my mind.

Pants in this pic aren't baggy enough but still sharp to me.

How many fedoras do you own?

 

[UncleBuck]

I get called Keifer at work, but that was just a bad hair day that started that.

I don't know really. I'm taller than he is, but have the same big head. I'm darker too. When I rocked the porn stash I looked more like a young Tom Selleck (I wish). We are built alike and have the same features, but I'm more like his ugly brother. I'm Donnie to his Marky Mark.

I have finally reached that age where my hair is deciding whether it wants to turn gray or turn loose (gray for the win one time!!). Tom Selleck doesn't have that same issue.

Tom selleck isn't fat either.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Words on paper do not alter the fact the USA's military KNOWINGLY fried women and children alive. It's also common knowledge the nuclear atrocities the USA did were totally unnecessary. The bombs were new toys that the murderous regime just wanted to try out.

THOSE people were not "the enemy", they couldn't possibly be. I suppose you also approve of the concentration camps in the USA during WW II for Japanese-Americans too?

I'm not an internet tough guy. Your belly is soft, mine is fur covered, flat and rippled from a rich diet of nuts, berries, wild birds eggs and mountain marmots supplemented by hiking mountain passes daily in search of caves to sleep in.

the invasion of okinawa proves your assertions to be false.

taking japan by conventional force would have resulted in MORE deaths (particularly among japanese civilians) and dropping the first bomb didnt convince hirohito to surrender.

dropping the second bomb demonstrated that he was DONE, so he gave up, and japan didnt need to be turned into a graveyard.

your ardent support of a stateless world and pacifism (until youre threatening to beat up aged rock musicians) is utopian fantasy.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Of course an ignoramus like you wouldn't know 22% (26 people) were found by the CIA to be improperly detained, but that doesn't matter so long as they come from 'sandland', huh...

"No torture"...

Right from the Senate Report itself..

guess who starts talkin about rape...

26 people were found by the cia to be "improperly detained"...

sounds like some Process to me, maybe those cats were Due some, and thus were cleared.

you demand perfection from others, because youre a child.

IF (and thats a huge IF) some poopers got violated, then there needs to be more oversight. this does not equate to releasing all the other scumbags being held in gitmo because of your Feels

 

[Padawanbater2]

guess who starts talkin about rape...

26 people were found by the cia to be "improperly detained"...

sounds like some Process to me, maybe those cats were Due some, and thus were cleared.

you demand perfection from others, because youre a child.

IF (and thats a huge IF) some poopers got violated, then there needs to be more oversight. this does not equate to releasing all the other scumbags being held in gitmo because of your Feels

No, actually it's not an 'if', torture was committed by the CIA, the CIA and even Cheney himself admits to it

You're in denial, like usual

 

[heckler73]

 

[Rob Roy]

the invasion of okinawa proves your assertions to be false.

taking japan by conventional force would have resulted in MORE deaths (particularly among japanese civilians) and dropping the first bomb didnt convince hirohito to surrender.

dropping the second bomb demonstrated that he was DONE, so he gave up, and japan didnt need to be turned into a graveyard.

your ardent support of a stateless world and pacifism (until youre threatening to beat up aged rock musicians) is utopian fantasy.

The Japanese nation state tried to surrender, all they wanted was to keep their "Emperor" as a god figurehead. The USA insisted on an unconditional surrender. You could research that if you like.

However, none of that addresses the fact that the USA knowingly targetted and fried women and children.
That is murder anyway you slice it. I can't support murder.
You also never addressed the issue of the unconstitutional and immoral incarceration of American citizens of Japanese ancestry.

I'm not a pacifist. I am an advocate of the non initiation of aggression principle. You might learn the difference. I believe everybody has the right to defend themselves. NOBODY has the right to use offensive force, I don't make exceptions for murderous and coercive gangs such as the Nation States in existence now.

Also, seeing people as individuals rather than subjects within a nation state is, I believe the biggest step mankind needs to take to ensure his survival. For lasting peace coercive governments have to be abolished, it is self evident and would be illogical to argue otherwise, but go for it.

I never threatened Alice Cooper, or Ted Nugent, but I'm guessing I could kick both their asses and you could even let Mick Jagger jump into the ring if you'd like. I'd pick his scrawny ass up an swing him 'round and 'round like a mighty staff and wail the shit out of them other old fogey rock stars.

 

[ginwilly]

The Japanese nation state tried to surrender, all they wanted was to keep their "Emperor" as a god figurehead. The USA insisted on an unconditional surrender. You could research that if you like.

However, none of that addresses the fact that the USA knowingly targetted and fried women and children.
That is murder anyway you slice it. I can't support murder.
You also never addressed the issue of the unconstitutional and immoral incarceration of American citizens of Japanese ancestry.

I'm not a pacifist. I am an advocate of the non initiation of aggression principle. You might learn the difference. I believe everybody has the right to defend themselves. NOBODY has the right to use offensive force, I don't make exceptions for murderous and coercive gangs such as the Nation States in existence now.

Also, seeing people as individuals rather than subjects within a nation state is, I believe the biggest step mankind needs to take to ensure his survival. For lasting peace coercive governments have to be abolished, it is self evident and would be illogical to argue otherwise, but go for it.

I never threatened Alice Cooper, or Ted Nugent, but I'm guessing I could kick both their asses and you could even let Mick Jagger jump into the ring if you'd like. I'd pick his scrawny ass up an swing him 'round and 'round like a mighty staff and wail the shit out of them other old fogey rock stars.

My money is on Nugent. Dude is a world class marksman. He wouldn't fight fair.

 

[Rob Roy]

My money is on Nugent. Dude is a world class marksman. He wouldn't fight fair.

I'd snap Alice' neck, hold his corpse in front of me and sprint like a gazelle right into Nugents face. He might thump a couple of rounds into Alice' still warm body, but I'd appear so fast, he'd hardly have time to piss his pants. Remember this is the internet...I'm an internet bad ass, Dr. Kynes even said so. Plus, I'm over 8 feet tall and have a thick leathery hide.

 

[heckler73]

I'd snap Alice' neck, hold his corpse in front of me and sprint like a gazelle right into Nugents face. He might thump a couple of rounds into Alice' still warm body, but I'd appear so fast, he'd hardly have time to piss his pants. Remember this is the internet...I'm an internet bad ass, Dr. Kynes even said so. Plus, I'm over 8 feet tall and have a thick leathery hide.

You forgot to mention the enormity of your genitalia, and the fact you rode dinosaurs in Jesus' posse, back in the day.

 

[ginwilly]

I'd snap Alice' neck, hold his corpse in front of me and sprint like a gazelle right into Nugents face. He might thump a couple of rounds into Alice' still warm body, but I'd appear so fast, he'd hardly have time to piss his pants. Remember this is the internet...I'm an internet bad ass, Dr. Kynes even said so. Plus, I'm over 8 feet tall and have a thick leathery hide.

Yeah, but you guys have a weakness. Slimjims..

 

[Harrekin]

I'd snap Alice' neck, hold his corpse in front of me and sprint like a gazelle right into Nugents face. He might thump a couple of rounds into Alice' still warm body, but I'd appear so fast, he'd hardly have time to piss his pants. Remember this is the internet...I'm an internet bad ass, Dr. Kynes even said so. Plus, I'm over 8 feet tall and have a thick leathery hide.

Did Doer hack Rob Roys account?

Next he'll say he kills people with rocks...

 

[Rob Roy]

Did Doer hack Rob Roys account?

Next he'll say he kills people with rocks...

It's the weed man. Please forgive me.

 

[Rob Roy]

You forgot to mention the enormity of your genitalia, and the fact you rode dinosaurs in Jesus' posse, back in the day.

Thanks for the reminder. It was so long ago, I'd nearly forgotten.

As an aside, early hominids had the ability to retract there junk into their body cavity as a defensive measure when fleeing and under the fight or flight adrenaline rush. I imagine that was a good thing if a Sabre Tooth tiger was swiping at your balls.

Jesus never rode no Dinosaurs but he was a stoner though....what kind of oil do you think he annointed people in?

 

[heckler73]

Thanks for the reminder. It was so long ago, I'd nearly forgotten.

Jesus never rode no Dinosaurs but he was a stoner though....what kind of oil do you think he annointed people in?

10W40 infused with the finest charas rubbed off the bodies of nubile, temple virgins.

 

[Dr Kynes]

The Japanese nation state tried to surrender, all they wanted was to keep their "Emperor" as a god figurehead. The USA insisted on an unconditional surrender. You could research that if you like.

However, none of that addresses the fact that the USA knowingly targetted and fried women and children.
That is murder anyway you slice it. I can't support murder.
You also never addressed the issue of the unconstitutional and immoral incarceration of American citizens of Japanese ancestry.

I'm not a pacifist. I am an advocate of the non initiation of aggression principle. You might learn the difference. I believe everybody has the right to defend themselves. NOBODY has the right to use offensive force, I don't make exceptions for murderous and coercive gangs such as the Nation States in existence now.

Also, seeing people as individuals rather than subjects within a nation state is, I believe the biggest step mankind needs to take to ensure his survival. For lasting peace coercive governments have to be abolished, it is self evident and would be illogical to argue otherwise, but go for it.

I never threatened Alice Cooper, or Ted Nugent, but I'm guessing I could kick both their asses and you could even let Mick Jagger jump into the ring if you'd like. I'd pick his scrawny ass up an swing him 'round and 'round like a mighty staff and wail the shit out of them other old fogey rock stars.

after starting a warr, and losing it, hirohito offered to "surrender" but only if he got to keep all the territory his forces had taken, and he got to keep dong whatever he liked.

it doesnt work that way.

eventually, hirohito kept his titular position as "emperor" but lost all his real authority and japan became an occupied nation, which was a concession by the us AFTER blowing the shit out of nagasaki and hiroshima with nukes. before that hirohito offered only talk.

talk doesnt end the fight, tapping out, going limp or crying uncle does.

japan kept putting their dukes up, so they kept getting stomped.

the nukes puke the cherry on top, sure, and that gives you bad Feels, but the OTHER options were, to continue blasting japan with The LeMay Treatment (google it) or launching amphibious invasions on each island, which would have killed far more people than the nukes did, before hirohito would finally accept the inevitable.

if somebody suckerpunches me, they are gonna get stomped, and the stomping will continue untill they SURRENDER.

just because i now have the upper hand in a fight i didnt start does not transform me into the "aggressor" so you can shove that nonsense right back up your fundament.

I'll kill a man in a fair fight...
or if I think he's gonna start a fair fight...
or if he bothers me, or if there's a woman...
or if I'm getting paid.
~Jayne Cobb

 

[Dr Kynes]

Yeah, but you guys have a weakness. Slimjims..

OHHHHH YEEEEAH!~!!

 

[UncleBuck]

after starting a warr, and losing it, hirohito offered to "surrender" but only if he got to keep all the territory his forces had taken, and he got to keep dong whatever he liked.

it doesnt work that way.

eventually, hirohito kept his titular position as "emperor" but lost all his real authority and japan became an occupied nation, which was a concession by the us AFTER blowing the shit out of nagasaki and hiroshima with nukes. before that hirohito offered only talk.

talk doesnt end the fight, tapping out, going limp or crying uncle does.

japan kept putting their dukes up, so they kept getting stomped.

the nukes puke the cherry on top, sure, and that gives you bad Feels, but the OTHER options were, to continue blasting japan with The LeMay Treatment (google it) or launching amphibious invasions on each island, which would have killed far more people than the nukes did, before hirohito would finally accept the inevitable.

if somebody suckerpunches me, they are gonna get stomped, and the stomping will continue untill they SURRENDER.

just because i now have the upper hand in a fight i didnt start does not transform me into the "aggressor" so you can shove that nonsense right back up your fundament.

I'll kill a man in a fair fight...
or if I think he's gonna start a fair fight...
or if he bothers me, or if there's a woman...
or if I'm getting paid.
~Jayne Cobb

Lol, old fat man turns Internet tough guy.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

Lol, old fat man turns Internet tough guy.

You really shouldn't disparage other member's physical attributes, especially when you were the inspiration for one of DirectTV's latest commercials.

 

[UncleBuck]

You really shouldn't disparage other member's physical attributes, especially when you were the inspiration for one of DirectTV's latest commercials.

It's hilarious to watch you get all worked up when I pick on your fellow racists.