WHO'S HAVING SUCCESS WITH MONSTER CROPPING?

MrStickyScissors

MrStickyScissors

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ThaProdiG said:
i dont know how people think they'll get any grow experiences from buying clones... doesnt make u a grower... nor give u any worthy experience... the nursery grows it... you just take it home... so annoying listening to people who swag off of nurseries come on here spewing advice knowing they dont grow shit... they house sit some plants for a month,
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because sometimes you just don't feel like making them. I'm buying 90 as soon as these are done for a sog. could make them but why if you can get them for 5 bucks a piece
 
MrStickyScissors

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Darth Vapour said:
lmao if a person is not good or not having success cloning he should not be putting his plant in flower till he gets success at cloning ??? if that is what he is trying to achieve ,, and if that is only strain or plant that he has ...
Coming from a guy that thinks that by not giving plants nutrients it will give more roots lol rings hollow there fellow, or from a person that thinks revegging a harvested plant is faster then seedling growth rates,
oh by the way it also depends on strain if your growing indica dominant strain @ 2 weeks your clones look like this and at 4th week of flower they look like this good luck trying to get clones :) 4th week on and very unlikely that is if your grow room is growing plant with sufficient lighting rather than CFL's lol that late in flower may be 4th week from a sativa dominant strain in flower but View attachment 3504089View attachment 3504090
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what the fuck strain is that. man that looks incredible
 
jacksthc

jacksthc

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Darth Vapour said:
lmao if a person is not good or not having success cloning he should not be putting his plant in flower till he gets success at cloning ??? if that is what he is trying to achieve ,, and if that is only strain or plant that he has ...
Coming from a guy that thinks that by not giving plants nutrients it will give more roots lol rings hollow there fellow, or from a person that thinks revegging a harvested plant is faster then seedling growth rates,
oh by the way it also depends on strain if your growing indica dominant strain @ 2 weeks your clones look like this and at 4th week of flower they look like this good luck trying to get clones :) 4th week on and very unlikely that is if your grow room is growing plant with sufficient lighting rather than CFL's lol that late in flower may be 4th week from a sativa dominant strain in flower but View attachment 3504089View attachment 3504090
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A lot of first time growers buy seeds and just want to grow some bud but when they hear about taking cutting they give it a go.
nobody is going keep there plants in veg because don't know how to clone there plants lol

talking about clones
when you take a cutting it will reduce the uptake of nutes and water so the plant redirects the energy to grow roots

so if your plant runs low on nutes/water like a clone don't you think the plant will redirect the enegy to grow more roots just like the clone ?

when you mc a plant you often get a extremely bushy plants with loads of long shoots, it may take longer to grow than a normal clone or seed but its a great way if you need a large amout of clones
 
Darth Vapour

Darth Vapour

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As for root growth potassium and phosphorous are the to main culprits for root growth give a plant a good healthy well rounded nutrient and she will prosper give plant no nutrients and she will look like crap and not have much root growth to think to starve a plant is going to gain anything is beyond me specially a vegging plant
 
weedenhanced

weedenhanced

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jacksthc said:
looks great fellow

must be really happy with them
when did you take the cuttings ?
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At the start of my last flower about 2 weeks in I kept clones under a 100w cfl they grew about 5 inches in the 2 months lol then went under the mh for about 4 weeks all up and was super hard to train due to so many branches it went nuts
 
Darth Vapour

Darth Vapour

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MrStickyScissors said:
because sometimes you just don't feel like making them. I'm buying 90 as soon as these are done for a sog. could make them but why if you can get them for 5 bucks a piece
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i know of a lot of big time growers that do not have time to take clones they just purchase them so much easier from a reliable source i made more money selling clones that i did making weed if i still had the clientele i would be doing just that instead of growing period
where i used to live one call and i could have any clone from any strain within a week
 
jacksthc

jacksthc

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weedenhanced said:
At the start of my last flower about 2 weeks in I kept clones under a 100w cfl they grew about 5 inches in the 2 months lol then went under the mh for about 4 weeks all up and was super hard to train due to so many branches it went nuts
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they look great but thats a long time
did you remove the buds sites off the cuttings ?
 
MammothGrow

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dangledo said:
I've never had a cut, which are taken from the bottom of the plant at 3 weeks, fail to root. haven't noticed them rooting any slower for that matter. although resuming normal growth does take longer. I use this method because I usually scrog, and seems to make for a more even canopy, and easier to weave within the screen. opposed to branches that are larger and make an uneven screen, or dominate a part of the screen from a veg cut. also keeps me from having a mother around, and over growing my small veg tent before I can screen them. with that said, topping and supercropping multiple times, closes the gap between recovery times compared to reveg growth times. cut in flower, toss a screen on em'. even without a screen, there is little maintenance to keep them even. BUT they do tend to flop if not flowered quickly. Just learned this, as it was the first time I haven't used a screen while MC'ing.


also, im pretty sure darth is Pkbusted, and for some reason posts pics that aren't his
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LOL, if that's true, thats seriously weak sauce Darth, can't be posting shit that isn't yours and claiming it. Any proof of this?
 
ShLUbY

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jacksthc said:
so if your plant runs low on nutes/water like a clone don't you think the plant will redirect the enegy to grow more roots just like the clone ?
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but the point of flower is to grow buds, not roots. you want the plant spending energy on flowers. this is why transplanting and taking clones a week or two prior to flower is SO damn important.

i'll be honest, i haven't read a thing about monster cropping... but i feel like there is some placebo effect going on here with growers. the plant has a GENETIC CODE. it's going to grow the way it grows according to the GENETIC CODE. seems like a pretty basic botany lesson here, does it not? I understand that plants have hormones that respond to stress and all kinds of things. but honestly... i'd like to see some proof that this concept is real. you mean to tell me that a plant remembers that it was once flowered after it has cloned and revegged?? I'll stick to LST and pinching for now. do you have like the next 7 cycles ready to go all the time because of how late you all are cloning? doesn't that eat up your plant numbers? I don't monster crop and i'm seeing harvest of 1.5+lb per 600. that to me is monster cropping ;)
 
Darth Vapour

Darth Vapour

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gallery_11738_4908_618993.jpg ^^^ Yup Its no different when a plant has no nutrients to uptake it will start eatting itself in order to survive so its starts on lower part of plant working its self up root development stops as well as growth development ,,
People got to realize that when a plant is stressed meaning no food cold temps or what ever ,, she stops what she is doing and puts all her energy into survival mode to combat either insect infestation, no nutrients in soil and so forth
this is why in every botanic book out there its stressed to give plants a well balanced nutrient at the beginning of its life if you go to a store and look at starter nutrients they most likely will be high in the P and K this is to develop roots and structure of plant as you head into veg the first number N and last number K should be higher in value as we progress into flower the middle number P should be the highest Value followed by K but lets not forget Nitrogen is needed for all processes of plant functions
The secret is not to delete the Nitrogen but its to have it as the lowest number so it should look like 6 18 12 for flower for veg 6 12 18
the yellowing of a flowering marijuana plant is a god dam myth we again as humans implement cause we see fall yellow leafs falling off trees this means our mj should be yellowing off this is just wrong
The yellowing is cause you fucked up in your indoor grow most likely locking up the plant cause of ph issues
Since when ???? when growing organically out door does a mj plant or any plant yellow off when the soil is rich in organics
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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Darth Vapour said:
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the yellowing of a flowering marijuana plant is a god dam myth we again as humans implement cause we see fall yellow leafs falling off trees this means our mj should be yellowing off this is just wrong
The yellowing is cause you fucked up in your indoor grow most likely locking up the plant cause of ph issues
Since when ???? when growing organically out door does a mj plant or any plant yellow off when the soil is rich in organics
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i'm all about senescence, and if it happens with MJ it happens. Lots of people do not understand that those fall colors of yellow, orange, red, and purple pigments are in the leaves ALL YEAR. but there is so much chlorophyll production happening that you just don't see them because the green pigments are in such density they wash out the other colors. Yellowing/flushing of a plant was created by chemical companies who wanted you to flush their nasty salt and petro chemicals from the soil. if growing truly organic, there is no need to flush and cause yellowing... I'm sure Darth can show you all about that :)
 
MammothGrow

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ShLUbY said:
i'm all about senescence, and if it happens with MJ it happens. Lots of people do not understand that those fall colors of yellow, orange, red, and purple pigments are in the leaves ALL YEAR. but there is so much chlorophyll production happening that you just don't see them because the green pigments are in such density they wash out the other colors. Yellowing/flushing of a plant was created by chemical companies who wanted you to flush their nasty salt and petro chemicals from the soil. if growing truly organic, there is no need to flush and cause yellowing... I'm sure Darth can show you all about that :)
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I agree that it makes sense to keep the plant green and healthy until the end. But it is an annual plant, it's natural course is going to be to die off at the end of the year. Do you think the natural yellowing of the leaves near the end of the season starts right after peak ripeness? or would it not start yellowing in the wild until well after peak ripeness? Assuming it had all the nutrients it needs and nothing else was out of balance? Or would it just stay green all the way until the snow flies?
 
MammothGrow

MammothGrow

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Darth Vapour said:
View attachment 3504842 ^^^ Yup Its no different when a plant has no nutrients to uptake it will start eatting itself in order to survive so its starts on lower part of plant working its self up root development stops as well as growth development ,,
People got to realize that when a plant is stressed meaning no food cold temps or what ever ,, she stops what she is doing and puts all her energy into survival mode to combat either insect infestation, no nutrients in soil and so forth
this is why in every botanic book out there its stressed to give plants a well balanced nutrient at the beginning of its life if you go to a store and look at starter nutrients they most likely will be high in the P and K this is to develop roots and structure of plant as you head into veg the first number N and last number K should be higher in value as we progress into flower the middle number P should be the highest Value followed by K but lets not forget Nitrogen is needed for all processes of plant functions
The secret is not to delete the Nitrogen but its to have it as the lowest number so it should look like 6 18 12 for flower for veg 6 12 18
the yellowing of a flowering marijuana plant is a god dam myth we again as humans implement cause we see fall yellow leafs falling off trees this means our mj should be yellowing off this is just wrong
The yellowing is cause you fucked up in your indoor grow most likely locking up the plant cause of ph issues
Since when ???? when growing organically out door does a mj plant or any plant yellow off when the soil is rich in organics
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yeah stressing the plant by not giving it a healthy diet to cause root growth is just stupid. You would definitely want the plant to have everything it needs in the balance that it needs it so it can grow and do its thing at the fastest rate possible.
 
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