Who pays $80 for one seed?

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They have feminized seeds at Attitude for over $780 for a pack of 10. And more and more the seeds are running toward $20 each, seeds under $10 each are hard to find. What really gets me is that I'm willing to pay even $20 each for special seeds but then I expect them to deliver. Instead it seems like the more the price goes up the more reliability goes down, more duds and more that won't root or have crib death.

I think we all need to just say no to this crap. If I'm going to get that many failures I want the seeds for 7 or 8 bucks not 10 or 20. Is anyone out there buying fem seeds for a good old strain like Northern Lights at a reasonable price? I still like Attitude in the way the handle orders and I guess they can't help what the seedbanks give them. And I don't want to compromise the quality of the buds to save a few bucks up front, but they do have to grow - I expect at least that! End of rant, thanks for listening. And if you have any leads, thanks in advance for that.
 
smppro

smppro

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Yeah i was a little disappointed with my DP Blueberry fem seeds for $20, i know they are supposed to be sensitive but wow, what a mess, balls everywhere and never filled out, right next to perfect, beautiful kush plants, if it was my first grow and i wasnt growing anything else i would have really doubted myself.
 
Punk

Punk

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smppro said:
Yeah i was a little disappointed with my DP Blueberry fem seeds for $20, i know they are supposed to be sensitive but wow, what a mess, balls everywhere and never filled out, right next to perfect, beautiful kush plants, if it was my first grow and i wasnt growing anything else i would have really doubted myself.
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Exactly, you're buying unstable genetics and if conditions aren't just right, you get hermies.
 
jats

jats

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I guess the only real way around spending so much is to not buy feminized seeds and only buy regular seeds of the strain you want...then take advantage of your males by pollinating your females and building up your own seed stock.... the prices are unlikely to come down,,,except certain seed banks that deal with older seed stock like cannabis seeds.com who sell 20 seeds for $20....then you expect duds and are happy when you get a good 1 or 2...
 
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bosshogg

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dont buy fem. seeds its another man made debochle, get regular seeds and you only need one female to grow and then clone them urself. safe money and get good old school genetics rather than some lab rats experience.
 
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I'd love to use regular seeds, if I could sex them at about 10 days. But to use regular seeds I'd have to run two of my systems to get the viable number of plants I want. Not worth it. Besides I don't think it is feminization per se. I agree there are unstable genetics, but I figure the unstable strains are just as unstable in the regular seeds. And I have had numerous feminized strains where they all germinated and grew female.
 
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nutcracker

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bcseedking.com for me has been the best .. i got my shipment in 3-4 days for the white widow seeds i ordered .

Good genetics too . (I've already posted pics of my WW)

But if any website seems to be going down the hill .. stop BUYING FROM THEM , You're whats keeping them running .. If you're paying good $$$ you have to expect excellent service .
 
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Bluemax

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the only seeds i know what cost anywhere near that much are the doggies nuts-armageddon X sirius skunk,what strain where you looking at???

and yeh,you do need to be careful with females,since i found out they are made from hermie plants,i have been worried alot about them going hermie themselves

such a pain to plant and sex reg seeds tho,to find out that of the 11 ak47s you got,3 are females,all that soil,time,and light for nothing,dont think i could do it

reckon ill keep going with females until something bad happens,then i may consider regs(i mean,if i want serious seeds original ak,i need to get that regular,they dont even do feminized)
 
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RichED

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SMP i had the same thing happen to me on a single seed order of dutch passion bluberry hermed up bad no buds nothing to even smoke just a bunch of worthless herm seeds i pulled it in week 5 of flower

yep the world was a better place before fem beans what about the $$ the time power nutes everything im starting to get a little pissed and we just take it in stride whats up wit dat
 
lonleysmoka

lonleysmoka

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There is no way in hell I would pay 80 bucks for a seed that possible could be a male. Im going to have to agree with bosshogg on this one
 
tusseltussel

tusseltussel

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there is a strain that goes fer 1500 a 10 pack!!! forget what seed bank............... ive never paid for a seed in over 10 years
 
simpsonsampson420

simpsonsampson420

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Bluemax said:
the only seeds i know what cost anywhere near that much are the doggies nuts-armageddon X sirius skunk,what strain where you looking at???

and yeh,you do need to be careful with females,since i found out they are made from hermie plants,i have been worried alot about them going hermie themselves

such a pain to plant and sex reg seeds tho,to find out that of the 11 ak47s you got,3 are females,all that soil,time,and light for nothing,dont think i could do it

reckon ill keep going with females until something bad happens,then i may consider regs(i mean,if i want serious seeds original ak,i need to get that regular,they dont even do feminized)
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tru fem'd seeds arent made from hermies... they are made from true females...

let me explain...

first when i say true female i am talking about a female that no matter the amount of environmental stress she endures she will not hermie... this is a true female..

a hermie is female that when stressed environmentally can grow pollen sacs..

breeders go through great lengths to find true females... they take these true females and the use chemicals such as gibberellic acid or colloidal silver to chemically induce the female to produce pollen sacs... the key here is that if the chemical wasnt introduced the female, under no circumstances, would NOT produce male pollen sacs.. the chemical is what causes the pollen sacs.. the pollen produced will contain ONLY female genetics..

you then take the pollen from the true female that was chemically induced, and pollinate another true female with it.. the resulting seeds will be only females since there is no trace of hermie or male genetics ever present during the reproductive cycle...

now, sometimes genetic traits can lay dormant through many generations.. so occasionally you will get a hermie... but if you get a stable genetic line, from a reputable breeder, you should get all females... but that all depends on how strong and stable the original females were to begin with...



now with all that said, if the breeders spent a long time isolating original genetics, and stablized them, to eliminate hermie possibilities while producing an amazing plant, the seeds MAY, and i say that loosely, be worth it... it does take a lot of time and breeding out of some strains to ensure little hermie possibility... plus think of how many females the breeders go through trying to get a true female... it does take a lot of work to do...

i guess in the end if people are willing to pay the price then why not... i suppose the people who buy them dont mind spending the money, so who am i to hate... hell maybe someday for shits and giggles i'll even get some... or maybe not...
 
smppro

smppro

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simpsonsampson420 said:
tru fem'd seeds arent made from hermies... they are made from true females...

let me explain...

first when i say true female i am talking about a female that no matter the amount of environmental stress she endures she will not hermie... this is a true female..

a hermie is female that when stressed environmentally can grow pollen sacs..

breeders go through great lengths to find true females... they take these true females and the use chemicals such as gibberellic acid or colloidal silver to chemically induce the female to produce pollen sacs... the key here is that if the chemical wasnt introduced the female, under no circumstances, would NOT produce male pollen sacs.. the chemical is what causes the pollen sacs.. the pollen produced will contain ONLY female genetics..

you then take the pollen from the true female that was chemically induced, and pollinate another true female with it.. the resulting seeds will be only females since there is no trace of hermie or male genetics ever present during the reproductive cycle...

now, sometimes genetic traits can lay dormant through many generations.. so occasionally you will get a hermie... but if you get a stable genetic line, from a reputable breeder, you should get all females... but that all depends on how strong and stable the original females were to begin with...



now with all that said, if the breeders spent a long time isolating original genetics, and stablized them, to eliminate hermie possibilities while producing an amazing plant, the seeds MAY, and i say that loosely, be worth it... it does take a lot of time and breeding out of some strains to ensure little hermie possibility... plus think of how many females the breeders go through trying to get a true female... it does take a lot of work to do...

i guess in the end if people are willing to pay the price then why not... i suppose the people who buy them dont mind spending the money, so who am i to hate... hell maybe someday for shits and giggles i'll even get some... or maybe not...
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ok first i dont think there is a female that is hermie resistant, if you stress a female it will herm, mess with the light schedule and you will get a herm. And chemicals arent the only way to make herm, letting the bud over ripen until it produces males sac is the better method.
 
edsthreads

edsthreads

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I have never had a problem with fem seeds.. of all the fem seeds I have ever purchased at least 95% have been fem & have all been very good quality genes. I only buy from good seed banks like Sensi & White Label (they sell both these brands at Attitude) I honestly have had nothing but success from fem seeds but it is important to choose a very good seed bank to start with..
 
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