Vertical stadium HPS+LED - TGA Apollo 11,Cheese Quake,Ace of Spades,9 other strains

Theowl

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Nice thread. I'll have to finish it later. I like to read abou different types of setups. Just not enough time to try em all:)
 

glockdoc

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thx. the guy anti really get his plans into affect and does very well yield wise. he even has disco balls to reflect light in the set up!
 

Senseimilla

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Real nice link! I used to grow in those except same treepots back in 2005/2006 when I was growing Apollo 11, matanuska tundra and white rhino.

Fuck me DEAD! I just remembered what I forgot at the hydro store... I KNEW I was forgetting something.. .figured I would see it, but what it was is not on display so didn't remember... forgot my white/black plastic sheeting... can get it tomorrow. I did pick up 3 bags of soil (roots organics, sunshine hydro mix, sunshine rainforest mix). I'm gonna try different strains in different soils and see which I like best... unfortunately didn't have a lot of choices, it was roots, sunshine or foxfarm and i didn't feel like buying extra perlite :) I may mix the two sunshine bags together...

Also picked up a new co2 exhale bag for the babies and a new timer so they can actually get some sleep :)
 

Theowl

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By the time that exhale bag is exhausted, I want to have a few bags of mycelium going. I'll get you a bag or so for free! (well, if you want, you can smoke me out... :))
 

Senseimilla

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Day 18 -- everyone's chugging along... the two sicklies not getting worse but not thriving either. Today everybody got 1/2 tsp Pure Blend (1-0.5-1) -- 1/2 tsp is 1/2 the minimum recommended dose of 1-3tsp. They also got the full mild dose of Ca-Mg for the first time (1 tsp). Ph'ed to 6.7.

I'm going to have to figure out how to hang those lights and get everything set up by monday night... they definitely are not gonna fit in that closet after this weekend... with the nutes they are gonna start taking off pretty quick here especially once they go in the full size pots.

[video=youtube;LvIdiRzDCJM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvIdiRzDCJM&feature=youtu.be[/video]
 

Senseimilla

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OK, they're getting too big for sure... everyone's first leaves are yellowing and even one or two the first main fan leaves getting much lighter green. But should hopefully be repotting them tonight... pots still not here yet :( gave them 1/2 strength mild nutes this morning & full mild cal-mag. More to come.

I priced out the wood for a shelf today.. .almost got it but decided to wait... looks like it will cost about $75 in wood, so not bad considering i just need the wood and screws/nails. I'm just gonna have'm cut all the pieces to specification and assemble it. probably won't even need you owl other than it'll go faster if I have help :) I'll probably go ahead and build a shelf next weekend and then build another one every week or two til I get'em all done :) not sure what to do about lights yet for now planning on putting hooks in the ceiling to hang the leds and suspending them.
 

Theowl

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Rig some pulleys, it'll be worth it.

If you need the space and time , I was thinking maybe you could cover the pots with some sort of fabric, tied around the pot wwith like rubber bands or something.(just to hold dirt in) then, it'll ZST("zero stress training") then tied it to the pot and rotated 45-90 degrees.. Then you'll get the CCOB effect and try can stay low but just a little more width? Just thinking..
 

Senseimilla

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Yeah pulleys may be the way to go i'll have to figure out how to make that work though :) for now it's gonna have to be going with what I got on hand... I got the new pots in and the good news in they are PERFECT. I was worried they'd be too small but they're just right -- right between my bigger pots and my smaller ones... about the same width as the one the blueberry is in but as tall as the thinner/taller ones... just right :) The downside... i was thinking 'maybe they'll all fit in that closet' -- no fuckin' way... at least twice as big as that closet space... so gotta hang the lights in the morning and figure something out... i'm getting up at 4:30am just so i can have time to repot them all before work. Obviously, a new video update will be forthcoming once I get it in place tomorrow :) And it will be fitting timing, since it's day 21/end week 3. Hoping the feeding this morning gets them through til the morning with no further issues til i can transplant them... they are very unhappy in those solo cups at this point and in the hot closet (85+)
 

Theowl

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Damn, hope that goes easy for you this morning.
I am starting some fail safe beans, incase anything goes wrong or things don't pop in the tray the way I want.
Hoping that some things would start going right didn't seem to be cutting it. So I am willfully inducing these to do my bidding. :)
 

Senseimilla

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OMG it took forever... 2 1/2 hours to repot 20 plants... to be fair, had to mix 3 batches of soil as well. I ended up mixing the sunshine hydro and rainforest mixes so the Ace of Spades and Cheesequake got the mix. Apollos got the roots (they can take a little hit if there is any) -- roots sure beats sunshine hands down as far as a quality mix... we'll see how the plants like it... They're in the dark now til I come home from lunch then I gotta put the lights up... i'm gonna try and water before I leave to work but may have to wait til lunch.

On the bright side, I found out what was wrong with the plants... too much moisture at the bottom of the solo cups... lotta moisture buildup down there and easy to tell roots weren't growing all the way to bottom in some of the cups because of it, especially the sickly ones.. but that won't be an issue now with airpots. The one thing I like about airpots over smart bags is that overwatering is impossible if you use the right soil mix that drains well -- airpots unlike smart bags allow air to flow UNDER the pot and hit the bottom of the soil -- so you'll never get a big mass of wet soil at the bottom unless you don't have enough perlite in it for it to drain properly. With smart bags most have a solid bottom (no air) and whether they have a solid or fabric bottom, it sits straight on the surface, so there's no air flow at the bottom of the soil.

The airpots fit perfectly 3 per tray I got... I'm short 3 trays though so right now the ace of spades and CQ are in trays and the apollo and genius-deep chunks are not. i'll pick up some more today. That'll let'em fit perfectly 2 trays per shelf so that the 3 strains should fit on one shelf, and there should be enough room left over for the 2 extra genius x deep chunks somewhere.

I planted the plants at an angle... you'll see how that goes when i get back home and take vid will most likely post at lunch.
 

Senseimilla

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It is... they are looking pretty sweet in their big pots... now they are gonna spread their wings and take off.

I have plastic blocking off the doorway temporarily so i can work in there and have lights on without it looking like it from outside the room :) will get the more fully stealthed plastic sheeting up at a later date when i get the shelves going. this'll let me get my horizontal going quick. All I gotta do is water and hang lights... I called in sick to work *cough cough* so now i have most of the day to play with my plants and get things set up proper :)

I may go down to lowes and get the wood for a shelf so i can start assembling it over the week.. they definitely need to get on a shelf soon. will prob get those extra trays too. the one thing i have to figure out is the angle of the side supports for the shelves... i got the lengths of the triangle so just gotta find the equation to find the angles based on lengths of triangle's sides. feel free to help me :) height 8 inches, base 18", long side 22". What's the angle between the 18" and 22" sides :)
 

glockdoc

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-1] Before now, we have been able to use the trigonometric functions to solve right triangles. This doesn't do much good because there are many times triangles will not be right triangles. The Law of Sines is one way that we can solve oblique triangles. It is listed below. [/SIZE][/FONT]

a b c ----- = ----- = ----- sin A sin B sin C [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-1] When you know any two angles and any side of a triangle, you can use the law of sines to solve the triangle. Example: [/SIZE][/FONT]

1. Problem: In triangle ABC, a = 4.56, A = 43[SUP]o[/SUP], and C = 57[SUP]o[/SUP]. Solve the triangle. Solution: First, sketch the triangle and include any given information. Here's our idea of a sketch:

Find angle B. Angle B = 180[SUP]o[/SUP] - (43[SUP]o[/SUP] + 57[SUP]o[/SUP]) = 80[SUP]o[/SUP] Now, we use the law of sines to find the other sides lengths. c a ----- = ----- sin C sin A a(sin C) c = -------- sin A Plug in any known information. 4.56(sin 57[SUP]0[/SUP]) c = ------------- sin 43[SUP]o[/SUP] Use a calculator to find the sines. 4.56(.8387) c = ----------- .6820 c = 5.61 Now solve for b. b a ----- = ----- sin B sin A a(sin B) b = -------- sin A Plug in any known information. 4.56(sin 80[SUP]o[/SUP]) b = ------------- .6820 Use a calculator to find the sines. 4.56(.9848) b = ----------- .6820 b = 6.58 [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-1] There is another case when you can use the law of sines. When you know two sides and an angle opposite one of the sides, the law of sines can be used. However, with this case, you have to be aware that there might not be a solution, or there may be two! One solution is also possible. Example: [/SIZE][/FONT]

2. Problem: In triangle ABC, a = 15, b = 25, and angle A = 47[SUP]o[/SUP]. Solve the triangle. Solution: Start out by looking for the measure of angle B. a b ----- = ----- sin A sin B b(sin A) sin B = -------- a Plug in any known information. 25(sin 47[SUP]o[/SUP]) sin B = ----------- 15 Use a calculator to find the sine. 25(.7314) sin B = --------- 15 sin B = 1.219 Since an angle cannot have a sine greater than 1, there is no solution for this triangle. [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-1] Back to Top [/SIZE][/FONT]
 

glockdoc

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][SIZE=-1] You can also solve triangles that are not right triangles using the Law of Cosines. There are three rules that make up the law of cosines, but you only need to memorize one because the other two can be obtained by changing the letters (put b in place of a, for example). All three rules are listed below.

a[SUP]2[/SUP] = b[SUP]2[/SUP] + c[SUP]2[/SUP] - 2bc(cos A)

b[SUP]2[/SUP] = a[SUP]2[/SUP] + c[SUP]2[/SUP] - 2ac(cos B)

c[SUP]2[/SUP] = a[SUP]2[/SUP] + b[SUP]2[/SUP] - 2ab(cos C)

The law of cosines can be used in two different cases. First, if you know the lengths of all three sides of a triangle, you can use the law of cosines. Secondly, you can use the law of cosines when two sides and the included angle are known. Example: [/SIZE][/FONT]


1. Problem: In triangle ABC, a = 24, c = 32, and angle B = 115[SUP]o[/SUP]. Solve the triangle. Solution: We know two sides. Find the third using the law of cosines. b[SUP]2[/SUP] = a[SUP]2[/SUP] + c[SUP]2[/SUP] - 2ac(cos B) Plug in any known information. b[SUP]2[/SUP] = 24[SUP]2[/SUP] + 32[SUP]2[/SUP] - 2 * 24 * 32(-.4226) b[SUP]2[/SUP] = 2249 Solve for b by taking the square root of each side. b = SQRT(2249) = 47.4 Using the law of sines, angle A = 27.32[SUP]o[/SUP]. Since we know that triangles are made of three angles that sum to 180[SUP]o[/SUP], we can find the measure of angle C by setting up an equation. Angle C = 180[SUP]o[/SUP] - 115[SUP]o[/SUP] - 27.32[SUP]o[/SUP] = 37.68[SUP]o[/SUP]
 

Senseimilla

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Yup calculator worked - it's 55 degrees for the angle on opposing corners on my support shelves

[video=youtube;sXF7w9Tub9M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXF7w9Tub9M[/video]
 
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