Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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It will be a bush shape. So maybe 8 bud sites. The first 10 or 20 pages explains how & why.
Wait, it will NOT develop ANY colas in this case of topping above the 4th? Just a bush with only 8 bud sites? And it will lower my yeild? Should I re-top the plant above the 2nd node? I topped above the 4th due to the weird top formation at the first node, on one side a top is about 6 inches long, and the other side it is about 3mm long.
 

Danielsgb

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I'd just go with it and you will see. By bud sites I mean colas, and yield is something I can't guess. I think it would be somewhat close either way, but you lose a week or two to veg.
 

Enigma684

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i dont get it which is the 2nd true node can someone please pm me with a picture of a full plant and instruct me where to cut to get 4 main colas
 

chb444220

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FIM'ing also works great. (fo rme anyways) i always do that rather than top. i usually end up with more than 2 tops wen i FIM. my warlock has 6 tops... and jkust topped both of my gorilla grapes which are in veg,. and im seein 4 tops on each forming. heres a couple pics of the warlock.


Warlock at 40 Days Flowering


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lbezphil2005

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i dont get it which is the 2nd true node can someone please pm me with a picture of a full plant and instruct me where to cut to get 4 main colas
Did you not read the first few pages, even the first few posts of this thread? There is a complete diagram with pics, drawings, everything, honestly, I dont' get you guys sometimes, a little reading goes a long way, fellas! The cotehydrons are the first leaves to appear when the seed sprouts. they are not considered "true leaves", okay? then you have the next set that comes out, a single blade "usually", that is your first set of tru leaves, okay? Then the next set to come out would be your second, etc.
 

chb444220

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Warlock looks awesome chb, Wanna see that at harvest time! :)
aiight. ill post sum pics on here wen its done. u can always click my sig. adn check out pics from there too. i update every week. i got warlock/sensi star/ak-48/bastard bubba kush 1 and 2 and a gorrilla grape (double purple doja x purple erkle) flowering too. adn just recently harvested a floja (flo x double purple doja) and bubblicious
 

xXOnyxXx

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here are my girlz, they are 4 weeks in 12/12 what ya guys think? they did have a couple 90 degree days at week 3, but are doing good now.


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mrorganics

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If you take a clone can you top it before its rooted?and with the alternating nodes if I top above the 4 node will it even out, I topped and now I love this method and will never vhange. A friend said you cant top clones that's y I'm askin he said you can only fim em. Its sound bogus to me.
 

canefan

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If you take a clone can you top it before its rooted?and with the alternating nodes if I top above the 4 node will it even out, I topped and now I love this method and will never vhange. A friend said you cant top clones that's y I'm askin he said you can only fim em. Its sound bogus to me.
You are right, your friend doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. You can top clones, it is best to wait until well rooted to top, personally I wait at least 2 weeks to ensure a good root system. My question to you would be why top before it is rooted? Sound to me like if you want a clone topped you would alter the shape to what you want before you clone, when you take a cutting, cut it to the shape you want then go about your rooting process. You don't want to shock her, put her into clone and then top her again before she roots.
To even out the branches of alternating nodes: Allow the plant to grow a few inches then take the longest branches and gently crush the stem just below the tops. You squeeze gently until you hear the stem crush, the top will fall over but rebound by the next day. The result are the lower branches will start growing more to catch up to the tallest and increase the overall bushiness of the plant.
Good Luck and Happy Growing
 

medicine21

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I just did exactly that. Topped the branches on the mother and THEN cut them for the 4 colas to make clones. These pre-topped clones rooted at the same speed as non-topped ones. I figure this saves me the shock of topping during veg, since the clones aren't doing anything but trying to make roots in the first week or two anyway.
 
I'm ready to top, but there are some issues from a problem early on. You can see the nodes above are much farther ahead than the ones I need to keep. Upper growth is at least 2x bigger, and the bottom nodes have no large leaves, just some small new growth. It appears like they haven't grown at all since the deficiency.
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What would some experts suggest? I was thinking of trimming the bottom nodes, or not, and cutting above the current 4th node(2nd healthy node). I'm aiming to get four colas. Thanks
 

PakaloloHui

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I'm ready to top, but there are some issues from a problem early on. You can see the nodes above are much farther ahead than the ones I need to keep. Upper growth is at least 2x bigger, and the bottom nodes have no large leaves, just some small new growth. It appears like they haven't grown at all since the deficiency.
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What would some experts suggest? I was thinking of trimming the bottom nodes, or not, and cutting above the current 4th node(2nd healthy node). I'm aiming to get four colas. Thanks
That is what I would do. Make your topping first, wait several days to a week until you have good growth again up top, and then cut off what you don't want below.

It won't hurt to cut what you don't want later on, but too soon and you may stunt your plants growth and have to veg. longer to get where you are aiming for.
 

fdd2blk

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I'm ready to top, but there are some issues from a problem early on. You can see the nodes above are much farther ahead than the ones I need to keep. Upper growth is at least 2x bigger, and the bottom nodes have no large leaves, just some small new growth. It appears like they haven't grown at all since the deficiency.
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What would some experts suggest? I was thinking of trimming the bottom nodes, or not, and cutting above the current 4th node(2nd healthy node). I'm aiming to get four colas. Thanks

i'd let that grow another week or so. then i'd remove the bottom 3 or 4 nodes and top it leaving however many nodes you want left. ;)

i would never use my first 4 branches. those are the weakest, spindliest branches the plant ever produces.

remove the first 4 sets, let 2 to 4 more sets grow above that, then top it.

bongsmilie
 

fdd2blk

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That is what I would do. Make your topping first, wait several days to a week until you have good growth again up top, and then cut off what you don't want below.

It won't hurt to cut what you don't want later on, but too soon and you may stunt your plants growth and have to veg. longer to get where you are aiming for.
id' cut off the bottom first. then wait to cut the top. once you top it you can't go back.
 

kmksrh21

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Fellow growers... Ive read this thread numerous times, figured I'd post here rather than start a new thread. I have wanted to try this technique since I learned about it. I feel I'm closing in, but would like advice from those who have done it before I go through with it. I have a ak47 and bubba kush that have been veggin on 20/4 light schedule for 28 days now. They're pretty short and stocky, but are growing their 6th set of leaves. Are they ready for decapitation? Here's some details and pics... Thanks in advance :bigjoint:

Lighting: 2 t8 40w daylight 6500k 48in flouros w/ 2 t12 40w sunshine 5000k 48 in tubes.

Soil: FF OPM mixed with FF OF and Perlite

Nutes: As of week 3, Fox farms grow big, 1/4 strength
 

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