Testing Hans panel: 56watt Cree xp-e/ Lumiled rebel power==== Let's talk efficiency

Yeah orca is expensive. I get the cheap stuff, white on one side and black on the other. $10 for enough to line my whole closet and then some. Thanks for the close ups, theyre coming along.

Thanks man.... the thing is i'm running a perpetual... i have my mothers and clones/vegging room, and my flowering room going always 12/12... so as i go harvesting i go puting new stuff inside... my idea is to keep harvesting every 2/3 weeks... so far it is going pretty well... 3 weeks ago y harvested the galaxy big container.... now i'm harvesting 3 nebula's, the ones i'm showing now, and those are giving me around 40 - 50 more grams i guess.... in between these 2, i also cut 2 more little ones, 2 different phenos of galaxy, one the same as the ones in the big container and the other same strain different pheno, much sweeter. Those 2 are like 25 - 30 grams more... so in these 3 weeks ive harvested like, 70 grams from the big container, then, 2 weeks after that, the other 2 galaxies for another 30 grams and now, 1 week after that, harvesting this 3 nebulas i think they are going around 50 grams. That's a total of around 150 grams in the last 3 weeks... considering something like a little bit more of half of my space. Now, in 2 to 3 weeks, i'm cuting another big container, this one having 10 clones of nebula. I hope to get between 50-60 grams more from that one... and.. when the first galaxy big container got out, i put one critical jack, one Arjan's strawberry haze, and one Critical +..... soo.. when i cut the next big container of nebulas, those 3 are going to be 3 weeks from harvesting and so on i intend to keep this rotating cycle, this way i can be trying new stuff every 3 weeks. Now that i cut this nebula's i'm showing here, i entered 5 new ones, one Jack Herer "la mota", one Delahaze, one Kings Kush, one Grapefruit and one Lady Dagga (Destroyer X Lemon Skunk). So, now i have this 5 on day 1, the other 3 Critical Jack, Critical + and Arjan's Str Haze on their day 30, the Big nebula container in their day 50 and the ones just harvested on their day 70. As i keep cutting out, i will keep sending in so i can keep this cycle going until i get bored of it haha...

Now that i'm sending many strains on the flowering room, i intend just to try them so i can pick what i like and keep the mothers. So for now, max yield isn't my goal, once i get the strains i want, i will start getting all out of them. The big Galaxy container i first showed, was intended to test the panels yield performance, considering that result as to be 1/4 of what the total yield could be... that test gace me an idea of their yielding performance, and as a preliminary test with many things to improve yet, it gave me a result over the 1G/W... going to around 1,16 G/W... so for me, their performance regarding production, has been already proven and i'm satisfied, it is even over than what i wanted in the first place. So for now i will be concerning more on trying the like 13 different strains i have on my veg room and then will choose the ones i like the most and pull heavy projects seeking max yield haha... i also want at some point to stop this 3 weeks rotating process and pull a full one from beggining to end, to get the real deal in terms of yield, using the 224W i have in one round and see where they can go! jahehe...... also another thing i want to try some day, is to have a container like the first galaxy i showed, in the middle of the room, and have the 4 panels concentrating the light from every corner... that way, get a massive monster plant with monster buds! jajaja welll lot of ideas... need time to pull them off... and a lot of gardening jaja...

One thing i want to do tho, is to change my MH for a veg led panel. I was asking Hans if maybe he could make a panel like for veging, in the ratio 1:1 between blue and red. He told me it could maybe be done, i will contact him these days to see if that hapens, would be very nice.

Cheers man and good luck with everything here.

how much longer you lookin at?

DO3SHA said:

how much longer you lookin at?

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Well seeing that they didn't auto flower and are showing a different pheno than the usual BM's....I don't know really..........my guess (and what txchillies got with his fucked up BM's) is 3-4 weeks left in flower/maybe....



DAY 65................1&2.....They are both pretty dry but ill give them one more day to push roots out in search of water/nutrients and then hit both with beni bacteria/aerated tap tomorrow.......

.......56watt phase/ 12-12/ 25th day of flower/ blah...........be safe and happy growing

Maybe closer to 5-6 weeks in flower looking at them PSUAGRO

After lookin at yours and going back to mine, it seems we both had bad luck in these grows and there are definately two or three different pheno's goin on. I may have to agree with Chronikool on the judgement of flower time. It has taken me 6 1/2 to 7 weeks to get amber trichs to show up, I've been clippin leaves all day and have the sorriest bunch of plants startin to dry. Your ladies don't look none the worse for loosin leave though.

Plants are amazing brother psuagrow none the less, even though you ran into problems, they still look like plants grown under a 250w HID.

Agree with the above on the plants needing atleast another 7 - 8 weeks, Couldnt notice any trichs, and it takes atleast 6 - 7 weeks for the first trichs production to turn cloudy/amber with most hybrid strains.

Stay safe, peace to all and happy growing.

Chronikool said:

Maybe closer to 5-6 weeks in flower looking at them PSUAGRO

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Ha...........maybe wishful thinking on my part. Going on vaca in sept. done or not.......will scope them in the fourth week and go from there......thanks chroni

Txchilies said:

After lookin at yours and going back to mine, it seems we both had bad luck in these grows and there are definately two or three different pheno's goin on. I may have to agree with Chronikool on the judgement of flower time. It has taken me 6 1/2 to 7 weeks to get amber trichs to show up, I've been clippin leaves all day and have the sorriest bunch of plants startin to dry. Your ladies don't look none the worse for loosin leave though.

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well I'm on the 26th day of flower.......I just want this grow to end/ taking forever..........no auto's for me for awhile/ how bout you??? ha

cannabuilding said:

Plants are amazing brother psuagrow none the less, even though you ran into problems, they still look like plants grown under a 250w HID.

Agree with the above on the plants needing atleast another 7 - 8 weeks, Couldnt notice any trichs, and it takes atleast 6 - 7 weeks for the first trichs production to turn cloudy/amber with most hybrid strains.

Stay safe, peace to all and happy growing.

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Jesus, eight more weeks, that ain't happening.......best I can do , the day I leave for Florida(beaches/bitches/beer!) I'll drown them and let them slowly die in the dark for the quick finish/faster cure........thanks grower


DAY 65...............1&2.....................Well wasn't stoner issues messing with the timer/ it crapped out again yesterday, POS timer/multioutlet is unreliable after less than two years.........so I'm running my dark period from 3pm-3am to keep the 12hr period yesterday-finish of this grow...sucks................watered both and that's it fellow growers

........56watt phase/12-12 maybe/ and I can't wait for vaca...............be safe and happy growing

I wish we could get some more genetics in your hands. I'm pretty much sold on this panel, I just wish you weren't growing something you hate so much . And I'll watch your panel, err plants for you while you're gone.

dunno why you are so upset psuagro, the plants are looking good for having only 50watts on them, I doubt it could get much better with different strain

Brother PSU, I'd look at your calender and count about 35 more days and they should be finishing by then, of course if you wanted to speed up you could always crank up the lighting. Your buds sure look alot better than mine did for 26 days. And NO, I won't do anymore Auto's. Photo's for me and after the party cup grow if I want a fast turn around I'll do 12/12 from seed for sure, it seems alot easier.

Psu have you gotten the par 100 up and running yet? I want the 420 sooo bad. The price though.....

Txchilies said:

After lookin at yours and going back to mine, it seems we both had bad luck in these grows and there are definately two or three different pheno's goin on. I may have to agree with Chronikool on the judgement of flower time. It has taken me 6 1/2 to 7 weeks to get amber trichs to show up, I've been clippin leaves all day and have the sorriest bunch of plants startin to dry. Your ladies don't look none the worse for loosin leave though.

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Hey Guy's I Been Skimming Through The Auto Thread And I Found That the BM Auto's Are A Bitch To Grow Even With A HPS.So Congrat's On Your Sucessful Harvest Brother Txchilies And Brother Psuagro Your Doing An Amazing Job With Your's Keep Up The Awsome Gardening.

FranJan said:

I wish we could get some more genetics in your hands. I'm pretty much sold on this panel, I just wish you weren't growing something you hate so much . And I'll watch your panel, err plants for you while you're gone.

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You know I don't allow tigers in my apt.............I don't hate the bitches, just highly dislike them

Endur0xX said:

dunno why you are so upset psuagro, the plants are looking good for having only 50watts on them, I doubt it could get much better with different strain

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Not upset........just highly aggravated.............strain related probably not, but a photo would have been a true test of this panel......I let these girls dictate the grow instead of vice versa.....can't train them/can't flip them into flower when I wanted/ and obviously can't even lightly feed them without consequences....thanks

Txchilies said:

Brother PSU, I'd look at your calender and count about 35 more days and they should be finishing by then, of course if you wanted to speed up you could always crank up the lighting. Your buds sure look alot better than mine did for 26 days. And NO, I won't do anymore Auto's. Photo's for me and after the party cup grow if I want a fast turn around I'll do 12/12 from seed for sure, it seems alot easier.

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so no autos for you..........yeah I think four weeks from now it will be a chop without going early........thanks as always

hyroot said:

Psu have you gotten the par 100 up and running yet? I want the 420 sooo bad. The price though.....

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SHHHHH its supposed to be a secret............lol............yeah ill have the comparison grow up by the middle of sept, if everything goes well

The Dawg said:

Hey Guy's I Been Skimming Through The Auto Thread And I Found That the BM Auto's Are A Bitch To Grow Even With A HPS.So Congrat's On Your Sucessful Harvest Brother Txchilies And Brother Psuagro Your Doing An Amazing Job With Your's Keep Up The Awsome Gardening.

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Thanks brother Dawg.........My advice to anyone growing BM's is to set it(18/6??) and forget it and pray



DAY 67..............1&2...............talking about praying, my RH is still in the mid seventies!.......so fan is cranked up and ill thank god if no fungi or rot appears..........


..............all the same.............be safe and happy growing

They are looking good psua, everytime I check back in they look much further along. Like some others have said, they look like they are developing some nice flowers for 50w! Can't wait for your indagro face,off that wouldbe awesome to see

Interesting thread. Any other threads testing these out?
I bought 2 myself.
13 plants, 5 different Nirvana strains in coco with basacote as nutes.
100 cm x 60 cm.
Three weeks into flowering:






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manOos Looking Awsome Rocking 2 Hans.Peace And Welcome To The Party

hyroot said:

Psu have you gotten the par 100 up and running yet? I want the 420 sooo bad. The price though.....

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What You Talking About Willis.Brother Psuagro Did You Sneak A Indagro Light In Under My Nose.Peace And Im A Fist Of Rage

Thanks Dawg, It's my first grow in over 10 years, and i'm pretty pleased with it so far..
I LST'ed the taller ones so the grow area don't get to tall.

puffenuff said:

They are looking good psua, everytime I check back in they look much further along. Like some others have said, they look like they are developing some nice flowers for 50w! Can't wait for your indagro face,off that wouldbe awesome to see

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Thanks puff............yeah i'm excited to see what induction can do.......it's gonna be a tight fit in there......

man0os said:

Interesting thread. Any other thread testing these out?
I bought 2 myself.
13 plants, 5 Nirvana strains in coco.
100 cm x 60 cm.
four weeks into flowering:
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Awesome grow manoos........post as much as you want in here/ the more the merrier, happy to see more Hans users finally showing their stuff.....You keep that panel pretty close also it seems...............and welcome to RIU!

The Dawg said:

What You Talking About Willis.Brother Psuagro Did You Sneak A Indagro Light In Under My Nose.Peace And Im A Fist Of Rage

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Nah Dawg........ha, I don't even have the panel yet.............IG wants to do a comparison grow vs Hans panel.......it won't happen till mid-end of sept, space is going to be a problem with a partition and two panels; it will be tight



DAY 68..............#1.................#2................just moving along and I'm still yelling at #1 on a daily basis


.........56 watt phase/ 28th day of flower/ No more CO2 due to my lights on time (3am!) / be safe and happy growing RIU