supposed purple haze and mystery seeds

ok so i posted in another section of the site before i created this so sorry if you see both.




i have been looking for some cheep seeds to try my first grow and managed to get a bunch for 5 bux, i was sold two different strains, i was told the darker seeds were from purple haze and that the lighter ones came from some really dank stuff,
so anyways i soaked 3 of the supposed purp in a shot glass filled halfway with bottled water for 18hrs under a ceramic coffee mug then planted them this morning in a black soil with no nutes, they are currently sitting in 4" plastic pot so i can fit them all on one drainage tray, but i do have 3 8"pots and 2 more drainage trays, i covered the freshly watered seeds and placed ziplock bags over each to keep in the moisture like a mini greenhouse. i am running 4 42watt cfls with the potential to add 4 more if needed. dont plan on using nutes till flower because im going to flower as early as possible(iv heard that purple haze grows tall) seeing as i only have about 4ft by 3ft by 1ft growspace under a fishtank, i have lined the walls with a mildly reflective styrofoam insulation found under house siding, its filled with tiny tiny holes and helps dissipate heat rather well temp stays at 72 when lights are off and up to 81 when lights are on, iv heard that this is an ok range so i wont bother with a fan untill i add more light, also i have cut two 2'x4' square holes in the botom of the foam and one in the top corner for a passive aeration, seems to work rather well. lemme know what yall think of my setup. holla

c'mon now 8 views and no comments? not feelin the love people lol

redwolf666 said:

c'mon now 8 views and no comments? not feelin the love people lol

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Fix your sig link.... the txt is right but you need to update the url to point to this page, not your original post. Second, check out other peoples journals like yours, subscribe and post on them. Find people in similar situations, you'll get views and some support.

Someguy15 said:

Fix your sig link.... the txt is right but you need to update the url to point to this page, not your original post. Second, check out other peoples journals like yours, subscribe and post on them. Find people in similar situations, you'll get views and some support.

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yea i know my siggy link isnt working but i dont know how to fix it

redwolf666 said:

yea i know my siggy link isnt working but i dont know how to fix it

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ok i fixed it, good to go

i just put a 2 inch lift under the babies so they are closer to the light, still under the ziplock bags is this ok?

they are fine until they pop from the soil then they need as much O2 and CO2 as they can get to build strong cells. Very nice setup with the aquarium.

jesus of Cannabis said:

they are fine until they pop from the soil then they need as much O2 and CO2 as they can get to build strong cells. Very nice setup with the aquarium.

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well thank you very much, ill end up taking the bags off once they sprout then as they grow i will add co2 via the yeast and sugar method, as of o2... hopefully there is enough flow with the passive aeration.

thanks for the reply

ok so today i started soaking 3 seeds of the mystery plant, im going to let those soak till they crack though just to see the difference in sprout timing, and like i said i put a 2 inch lift to get them closer to the lights, i also took the baggies off to try out the soil a bit, the baggies definetly kept it moist, hope the girls pop soon

the pictures make the soil look dry but its just because of the light, its actually very damp because of the baggies

bump.....?

redwolf666 said:

well thank you very much, ill end up taking the bags off once they sprout then as they grow i will add co2 via the yeast and sugar method, as of o2... hopefully there is enough flow with the passive aeration.

thanks for the reply

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I've never heard of the bag method before. I just put mine in a wet paper towel until they sprout but I was reading a thread on here about NOT doing any kind of pre-germination. They said to just put the seeds right in the dirt and let them grow from there.

So what's the yeast/sugar method?

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emptypockets7 said:

I've never heard of the bag method before. I just put mine in a wet paper towel until they sprout but I was reading a thread on here about NOT doing any kind of pre-germination. They said to just put the seeds right in the dirt and let them grow from there.

So what's the yeast/sugar method?

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thanks for the sub, i actually read about the home made Co2 on rui, here is the post i got the idea from

m420 said:

Paul, I found the online and used copied and pasted it so I don't know where i got it from. I've been doing it this way for a few weeks and it rocks.

Fermentation​

Acquire some brewer's yeast if you can. The types of yeast you can use (in order of what is best) are:
-Champagne, Wine, Ale, Beer, Baker's

Rig up a simple fermentation chamber with airlock. The airlock is designed to keep the atmosphere anaerobic while releasing your good CO2. Fermentation chamber should be any airtight container with top. It could be a 2 liter Coke bottle, for example. Drill a hole in its top and glue in some plastic tubing, making sure to create a good seal. An epoxy is probably what you'll need to do it. Run that tube into a smaller, halved bottle: a water bottle works well. Place the tube at the exact bottom and glue it there such that the outlet of the tube faces the wall (not the bottom) and is not blocked (by glue, the wall, and your mouse, whatever). Fill that up with water, about an inch and a half above the bottom.

The mechanism is all set up, now set up the fermentation. Fill the bottle with about a 20% solution of glucose (dextrose) by mass and place a few tsp. of yeast in that jaunt. Placing the yeast in some warm water for half an hour prior with some sugar is a good way to jump-start the process. Using those six-carboned sugars, you get optimum results, but other sugars can be used. In general, you'll likely find the 5-carbon variety (fructose: corn syrup, eg.) or the polysaccharide (sucrose: cane sugar). In these cases, it’s ok to add a little more sugar, no more than 25%. Champagne yeast can tolerate more. Brewers yeast, you may want to shoot for less. Cap that jaunt with the tubing/cap system you rigged up.

Here's the principal, its pretty simple: The yeast use the sugar to make their energy (ATP). However, in absence of oxygen, the metabolic pathways can't be completed, and alcohol is excreted as waste. This is disadvantageous to the yeast, but hey, who cares? They also release carbon dioxide. For every equivalent of glucose or dextrose, the yeast produces two equivalents of carbon dioxide and alcohol. If other sugars are used, the process is slightly less efficient due to the early metabolics that get done to prepare it, or the inefficiency of metabolic/synthetic shunts. The carbon dioxide is good for your plants: its the objective. The alcohol is bad. It increases in concentration in the fermentation vessel and DOES NOT leave in any way. Over time, the yeast poisons itself with its own waste. Better yeasts (as per the above sheet) survive longer and make more carbon dioxide. Hence the reason for increasing the sugar, if you'd like (the difference is probably just about marginal if at all).

So what does this mean for you? A mole of glucose is around 180 grams. Thus, a 20% mass solution will produce slightly more than TWO MOLES (2.2 to be exact) of gas per liter. At standard temperature and pressure, and if you are growing, that's what you want, you will get around 50 liters of pure carbon dioxide from this method, over the time period of about 2-4 weeks.

Problems: You can tell the yeast is dying when the bubbling through the airlock subsides. No way around it, you need to whip up another fermentation mixture. Optimally you would do this every week and a half, while the yeast is at their maximum productivity. Using cane sugar and baker's yeast this is a crazy inexpensive endeavor.

Can you kill the plants with too much CO2? Most likely not. They breathe it as air, and they really only need oxygen (the only other thing they really take from the air) to run their ETC and some other minor metabolic processes. They get this from the water, believe it or not. Also they respirate as much 02 as they take in CO2. No problem, really. On the other hand, your plants would optimally have about 3 times as much carbon dioxide as would be in the atmosphere. That rings in at around 6%, so not that much, and in all likelihood, its going to be difficult to bring it up to these levels.

-also, I bought my champagne yeast on ebay for pretty cheap

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actually this is the post i wanted to quote but they both work

skunkushybrid said:

Or you could...

Any active yeast. Sugar and water. Mix it up, shake it up. Put hole in top of bottle, only half fill bottle with mixture then shake it up. Shake regularly for next 48 hours. This is about how long it takes for ingredients to react together. Now every time you shake the bottles a gust of Co2 is released. The bubbles in the bottle are a good indication that Co2 is continuing to be released into the atmosphere. When bubbles run out shake again. The bubbles should last a couple of hours.

The more you shake the more you make.

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happy growing

NICE FUCKIN SET UP!! i love the stealthy aquarium!! Ya that CO2 generator with yeast n sugar works pretty good! thats what i got in my box. Im subscribed so good luck on ur grow.. Ill be watching...
If you got anything thats ran by natural gas or pretty much any gas even butane when it burns it produces water and co2 theres a DIY thread on The FAQ that i got this idea from but its the truf I remember from my chem class. CH4+ 202 = CO2 + 2H2O the perfect combination for a growing plant water and carbon dioxide! The yeast doesn't produce as much but itll work great!

chops9969 said:

NICE FUCKIN SET UP!! i love the stealthy aquarium!! Ya that CO2 generator with yeast n sugar works pretty good! thats what i got in my box. Im subscribed so good luck on ur grow.. Ill be watching...
If you got anything thats ran by natural gas or pretty much any gas even butane when it burns it produces water and co2 theres a DIY thread on The FAQ that i got this idea from but its the truf I remember from my chem class. CH4+ 202 = CO2 + 2H2O the perfect combination for a growing plant water and carbon dioxide! The yeast doesn't produce as much but itll work great!

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thanks man glad you like the set up, i dug out one of the seeds i had planted because i was curious and it hadnt even cracked yet, i also have 3 seeds germinating and 2 of the 3 have cracked already, so i think i will change them out once the root grows a little bit

also changed the lighting set up, it took me a joint to figure out how to mount it to be the most adjustable, i think iv got it.m i started my seeds in a shotglass then moved them to the paper towel method after they started to crack.

redwolf666 said:

also changed the lighting set up, it took me a joint to figure out how to mount it to be the most adjustable, i think iv got it.m i started my seeds in a shotglass then moved them to the paper towel method after they started to crack.

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Its on you but i stopped germinating... I just put the seeds straight into the soil.... If the seed looks healthy its like 95% sure it'll at least pop(pulled that stat outa my ass) I would put those seeds in the ground now. Thats about the time i dropped mine in when i did germinate. IDK though, Ive heard all sorts of views and its really on you.... Naturally, seeds are germinated in the soil anyways so do what it likes, my opinion... o

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Its on you but i stopped germinating... I just put the seeds straight into the soil.... If the seed looks healthy its like 95% sure it'll at least pop(pulled that stat outa my ass) I would put those seeds in the ground now. Thats about the time i dropped mine in when i did germinate. IDK though, Ive heard all sorts of views and its really on you.... Naturally, seeds are germinated in the soil anyways so do what it likes, my opinion... o

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this is true, i just want to make sure the seeds are in fact going to sprout seeing as how i got them from my weed dealer. no idea how old they are so im just making sure. what have you found, does germinating make much of a difference?

i figure ill plant my second batch of seeds in a couple more hours