Stealth Cabinets

BudBaby said:

Well my sister is well into the decorating She is better than me at it so has offered her help

The fan came with no fittings at all mate. Says in the instructions they recommend lined fast clamps for mounting as this reduces noise carry-over into the ducting.

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Glad to hear your getting ahead with the decorating Uts always good to have a helping hand about the place ...Its unusual to not have a bracket included with the fan.. I am unsure what they mean by lined fast clamps do they show any pics of them in the instructions? If not we are going to need a clamp/fiitings to hold up that bad-boy, send an E-mail/Call the people you bought it from and ask for the fitting so you can mount it - STELTHY

I think this is what the clamps are mate http://www.oasishydroponics.co.uk/product/Fast_Clamp_104066

Ive emailed the place i got them from to see if they are normally included.

BudBaby said:

I def like the idea of the air sock being sectioned off in the cab too, uber stealth apart form the small holes. Will make the misses happier than a 90 degree ducting bend sticking out the side

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Glad to hear you like that idea man ... Its been a busy couple of days, sorry I have not uploaded my designs for you yet I am finishing them off still.. I had to make an alteration... We may need another fan + filter.....DONT WORRY a very small fan + filter for the veg side...If my calculation is correct then the way I had planned to draw out equal air quantities with a 6" 'Y' connector from the Veg and Flower rooms..The big fan would have to work harder to cool the 600 and in doing so would have been considerably louder, It'll look clearer (I hope) when I upload the pics soon - STELTHY

BudBaby said:

I think this is what the clamps are mate http://www.oasishydroponics.co.uk/product/Fast_Clamp_104066

Ive emailed the place i got them from to see if they are normally included.

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Oh no.... no these are something different n you dont really need these you can just use silver metal ducting tape. I'll try n find a pic of the fixing I am meaning - STELTHY

The stand/fixingclamp can alter slightly in style/design but this is pretty much what you need - STELTHY

I have decided I am going to go to my Hydro shop on Monday to talk about what would be the best option for your air ducting as its kinda hard to draw lol, I dont wanna rush any decision I make and then it doesn't work as well as it could... It be nice to run an uncomplicated system with just the one fan and one filter so providing you dont mind me getting it right for you I'll do my best to have a completed design on Monday - STELTHY

Thats great mate thanks. I would def prefer just one fan and filter as money is getting tight lol.

I've had a minor idea... We could Do the Flowering cab with just the one fan etc as planned, ...

Here's my random idea, since the veg cab will only be running a couple of CFL's, we could just use a couple of CPU (computer fans) to draw air in (Placed at the back) and just have a bathroom extractor fan wired to a transformer/fan speed plug - taking the air out (into the same area as the 600's Carbon Filter) and have it blow the exhaled veg air through the small odor sock!! That should defo be enough to keep good temps with 2 X 125W CFL's.

Also how would you feel about making a custom Reflector for say 3X 125W CFL's to get maximum coverage of your 5 Vegging Ladies? I have an idea in my head of 3X 125W CFL's at 120 degree angles under a purpose made large rectangular reflector, This would spread a nice amount of light evenly and also keep temps manageable - This is my own input, I could see it working and since we're plan on doing one cab at a time this would be an easy if not easier task

Have you got any further with the stand/mount that I depicted above for your in-line fan,.. I must stress we really need that!



Hope alls well man keep me posted - STELTHY

Cabs have arrived . Small cabs were already assembled. Just the big ones to put up tomorrow hopefully. There in the wrong order in the pic as the top 2 cabs should be at the bottom and vice versa.

I can see these 300mm cabs being a pain to line with mylar(which still hasnt arrived). I wonder if its worth taking my time and taking each one down, drilling/cutting whatever holes i need and lining it and putting it back together?

Also they forgot to put spacers in the bottom of the big cabs and have sent me solid bottoms instead. not sure how we will work around this? I suppose i could just saw out the bottom of the big cabs?

stelthy said:

In the loft space you could either hang a 6" Odor Sock like this one (large 6") or you could up it to a large 8,10 or even 12" Odor Soc...Basically the more cold air your cab can pull in the more it'll be able to cool your 600W HPS and the slower and more quiet your fan will have to run ...Have a think a bout what size would suit your needs best....Bigger is always better though.. So I'd say either an 8" 0r 10" plus apprpriate duct reducers A 12" one would only be needed for a 1000W+ setup..I mean theres no harm in using one that big but its a bit over kill for a 600 despite the heat they run at - STELTHY

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hey stealthy i love what you've done with your cabinet mate i've read through the thread but feel i've missed a few things, i have near enough everything you've listed and if i haven't got it i can get it or work around it, i've been growing using tents for a little while and have 3x600w hps 8inch inline 4inch inline the reducers to match ducting carbon filters etc, i've been looking around for a couple of days since i first come across this thread but can't find the cabinet your using anywhere, i was hoping you could point me in the right direction as i've shut my setup down and currently have nothing growing and i'm desperate to get back up and running but simply can't find something to grow in that doesn't arouse to much suspicion or having to add too much weight converting, i'd be very greatfull if you could point me in the right direction mate, w dragon

W Dragon said:

hey stealthy i love what you've done with your cabinet mate i've read through the thread but feel i've missed a few things, i have near enough everything you've listed and if i haven't got it i can get it or work around it, i've been growing using tents for a little while and have 3x600w hps 8inch inline 4inch inline the reducers to match ducting carbon filters etc, i've been looking around for a couple of days since i first come across this thread but can't find the cabinet your using anywhere, i was hoping you could point me in the right direction as i've shut my setup down and currently have nothing growing and i'm desperate to get back up and running but simply can't find something to grow in that doesn't arouse to much suspicion or having to add too much weight converting, i'd be very greatfull if you could point me in the right direction mate, w dragon

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Try these mate, you can have whatever size you want all made ot measureand decent prices.

http://www.diywardrobes.co.uk/

BudBaby said:

Try these mate, you can have whatever size you want all made ot measureand decent prices.

http://www.diywardrobes.co.uk/

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thanks for the link budbaby i hadn't looked into designing my own i had considered building my own out of sterling board and then buying a couple of cheap jobs and dismantling them and fixing them to the frame as a cover but the weight is an issue, i'll take measurements later when i get home and see what they come up with looks like a winner though thankyou very much mate the help is appreciated + rep bud

I can get a fixing bracket mate for the fane but this is what the guy said in his email


The fans do not come with any mounting bracket of fixings as standard.
Mounting brackets are available at the bottom of the following page:
http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk...e-Fans-Fan-Filter-Deals-108/RUCK-Fans-101.asp
To be honest most people find it easier to remove a screw from the body of the fan and replace it through a cable tie to create a hanging point to which a bungee can be attached.

No problem mate, there prices aint to bad either.

i got about £200 to play with so i'm hoping that'll cover it mate if not i'll have to wait til next week but either way i'll put my measurements up later and the estimated cost if thats ok with you bud?

Yes mate no worries. They are a really good company and it would be good to put some business there way.

Mine cost £850 but thats was for a 2250cm high x 2200cm wide x 1000cm deep 6 cabinet unit so though expensive still cheap for what it is.

BudBaby said:

Cabs have arrived . Small cabs were already assembled. Just the big ones to put up tomorrow hopefully. There in the wrong order in the pic as the top 2 cabs should be at the bottom and vice versa.

I can see these 300mm cabs being a pain to line with mylar(which still hasnt arrived). I wonder if its worth taking my time and taking each one down, drilling/cutting whatever holes i need and lining it and putting it back together?

Also they forgot to put spacers in the bottom of the big cabs and have sent me solid bottoms instead. not sure how we will work around this? I suppose i could just saw out the bottom of the big cabs?

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Hi dude, sorry not replies sooner I've been ill today ie feeling freezing cold n have lack of appetite as well as the run's - So not cool!!! - It could be something to do with me stopping drinking 8+ cans of beer a day and limiting it to just the weekend now.. Its been just over a week with no alclohol and from choice too or it could actually be the flu or a cold from all the fucking cold weather we've been having Anyhow sorry to bore you with that lol

Are all the cabs the same size that you have pics of above...can you hold up the in-line fan next to them for a size comparison plz

Cant believe the Mylars not turned up, I'll keep my fingers crossed till tommoz. If its not to much hassle dismantling them to spray with adhesive and the cover and staple may be a good idea ....The top cabs aren't all that important to cover cos we'll use Dyna-mat for most of that space...This will help quieten the fan as well as keep things clean and sterile ...Also before covering we need to find 2 large storage containers to go under/in/through the bottom section..I'll have a look on-line for summink simerlar to what you'll need..Its a good idea to do that 1st so the holes can be cut before you start to cover the bottom units. Yeah I think sawing out the bottoms is the way to go

Also keep the whole unit 6" away from the back wall..This will not only reduce your neighbours from hearing any noise (if they listen hard or suspect any thing) and also allow the CPU fans to be installed and give them space to breath a pull in cool (room temp) air..

What do you think?? - STELTHY

BudBaby said:

I can get a fixing bracket mate for the fane but this is what the guy said in his email


The fans do not come with any mounting bracket of fixings as standard.
Mounting brackets are available at the bottom of the following page:
http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk...e-Fans-Fan-Filter-Deals-108/RUCK-Fans-101.asp
To be honest most people find it easier to remove a screw from the body of the fan and replace it through a cable tie to create a hanging point to which a bungee can be attached.

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Yeah man get the fixing bracket.. I doubt you'll have enough room to hang/suspend your fan, You'll be better off fixing it down with an anti-vibration pad under it/sticky foam pad. - STELTHY

Ok mate, just to let you know i have about 101/2-11" of internal space in the small cabs so they will have to be modded for the fan and filter.

BudBaby said:

Ok mate, just to let you know i have about 101/2-11" of internal space in the small cabs so they will have to be modded for the fan and filter.

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No problem, well make a tray deep enough so the fan can sit in there, We'll have to do some cutting, How much bigger is the fan (tall)? And how tall does the fan stand once it has its mounting bracket on? - STELTHY