Someguy15s Perpetual 1kw Pineapple Express & More

Whats up someguy!!? I'm waiting on some nirvana white widow beans that I've heard nothing but great things about. You ever try there white widow?

Speaking of white widow, I'm growing these with a friend and there supposed to be white widow max but they just seem to be budding kind of wierd... I'm wondering it the main cola is going to fill out into a dense bud? Its under a 1000watt hps btw and all the othe plants on the table are nice and dense, this girls only in her 6th week of flowering or something like that though... I figured you would probably have a good opinion on whats going on here lol.. Thanks for the help and I hope you don't mind me posting these pics here.

SmeLLyTreeZ said:

Whats up someguy!!? I'm waiting on some nirvana white widow beans that I've heard nothing but great things about. You ever try there white widow?

Speaking of white widow, I'm growing these with a friend and there supposed to be white widow max but they just seem to be budding kind of wierd... I'm wondering it the main cola is going to fill out into a dense bud? Its under a 1000watt hps btw and all the othe plants on the table are nice and dense, this girls only in her 6th week of flowering or something like that though... I figured you would probably have a good opinion on whats going on here lol.. Thanks for the help and I hope you don't mind me posting these pics here.

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Looks to be some heat stress. How close is this plant to the thousand watt? Should be atleast 36 inches

agreed. heat stress. or underwatering.. even over watering. but regardless... that things gonna be MADD FATT!!! and yeaa nirvanas white widow is fuckin awesome man!! got 3 1/2 ounces off my 1st plant. adn 3.15 off my other (those r dry weights) good luck man

Shrubs First said:

Looks to be some heat stress. How close is this plant to the thousand watt? Should be atleast 36 inches

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chb444220 said:

agreed. heat stress. or underwatering.. even over watering. but regardless... that things gonna be MADD FATT!!! and yeaa nirvanas white widow is fuckin awesome man!! got 3 1/2 ounces off my 1st plant. adn 3.15 off my other (those r dry weights) good luck man

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Thanks guys, so heat stress is most likely the culprit then.. It is an air cooled hood with the little glass insert but I would say its around 1ft under the hps, its definitely the closest out of all the plants!! I had a one of the girls foxtail on me like a mofo and I think it was the same thing, heat stress... At least I think that what its called when there's like extra leaves growing out of the top of your buds.. It looks weird ass hell I'll tell you that much lol..

The thing is its only around 90 at the top of her canopy, "at the very hottest." Plus I wasn't seeing any other sighns of heat stress like the leaves cupping up or down..?? So you guys still thinking heat stress? THanks again for the help and +Rep!!

Btw I seriously doubt its underwatering and I know for a fact its not overwatering..

Edit, damn chb, now I really cant wait to start these white widows THere going to be under the 1k watt too so I really want to get these problems figured out now..

Anything above 85 for long periods of time = heat stress

78 is ideal temp. Distance from a 1000 watt is 3 feet minimum recommended.

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Shrubs First said:

Anything above 85 for long periods of time = heat stress

78 is ideal temp. Distance from a 1000 watt is 3 feet minimum recommended.

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Thanks again brotha, I'll do what I can to get it 3 feet away!

Do you still think it will fill out possibly? I know it still has a while but its just growing different then the other white widow thats topped and about 6"-12" farther away from the light..

And thanks for the space some guy, I just new you and your followers new what they where doing when it came to 1000 watt lights lol.. I could have made a new thread but I didn't think you would mind..

SmeLLyTreeZ said:

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Thanks again brotha, I'll do what I can to get it 3 feet away!

Do you still think it will fill out possibly? I know it still has a while but its just growing different then the other white widow thats topped and about 6"-12" farther away from the light..

And thanks for the space some guy, I just new you and your followers new what they where doing when it came to 1000 watt lights lol.. I could have made a new thread but I didn't think you would mind..

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Not a problem guys... somehow I sneak my 1k 12-16" away but maybe cuz it's a dual arc, not a true 1000. It's really a 600hps and 400mh so I can get it a little closer than a regular hps bulb.

Someguy15 said:

Not a problem guys... somehow I sneak my 1k 12-16" away but maybe cuz it's a dual arc, not a true 1000. It's really a 600hps and 400mh so I can get it a little closer than a regular hps bulb.

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Interesting, ive never seen better growth than with farther spacing. Everytime ive decreased spacing to within 2 feet
Ive decreased yield.

Shrubs First said:

Interesting, ive never seen better growth than with farther spacing. Everytime ive decreased spacing to within 2 feet
Ive decreased yield.

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I've always put the light as low as I could without causing heat stress or bleaching. I would prefer to put it more like 24" or so, but they over grew and now i'm short on space.

Gettin antsy with the scissors...

Someguy15 said:

Gettin antsy with the scissors...

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hahahaha no shit!

Shrubs First said:

Interesting, ive never seen better growth than with farther spacing. Everytime ive decreased spacing to within 2 feet
Ive decreased yield.

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Ok, well you talked me into it. I raised my light to ~24". I have always understood that the closer the light the better if heat isn't an issue. I run 1000 watters and let them get as close as 8" on the taller colas. I have air cooled hoods and don't usually see heat stress other than some canoe-ing , which when I do see I raise the lights. However, I am all for experimenting, so I am raising them up this round to see the difference. The other thing I have read in your journals shrubs, is your trimming and drying techniques, which I may split my next harvest in half and use your method on half and mine on the other just to see if there are any noticable differences. Thanks for sharing your experience shrubs.

Someguy, I know the feeling when it is almost that time. Get those fingers nice ans stretched out. lol

#1Raiderfan420 said:

Someguy, I know the feeling when it is almost that time. Get those fingers nice ans stretched out. lol

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hahah yeah no shit. Started the chopping got the 3 LA down, still have to get the 8 PE down tomorrow and get everything setup to move the veggies in. Setting up to be a 12-14 hour day

Pics of the PE. The LA has been pulled. Everything fell over real bad this time so screen will be in place tomorrow.

Damn thats a lot of bud, great job brotha!! +REP!!

5 hours for the 3 LA and about 15 for the PE and that was with help damnnnn shit suxed!

All in a days work my man. Feels so good to get projects done!

#1Raiderfan420 said:

Ok, well you talked me into it. I raised my light to ~24". I have always understood that the closer the light the better if heat isn't an issue. I run 1000 watters and let them get as close as 8" on the taller colas. I have air cooled hoods and don't usually see heat stress other than some canoe-ing , which when I do see I raise the lights. However, I am all for experimenting, so I am raising them up this round to see the difference. The other thing I have read in your journals shrubs, is your trimming and drying techniques, which I may split my next harvest in half and use your method on half and mine on the other just to see if there are any noticable differences. Thanks for sharing your experience shrubs.

Someguy, I know the feeling when it is almost that time. Get those fingers nice ans stretched out. lol

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I have no doubt you'll see similar degrees of improvements that i have in finished product, in both weight
and quality.

Here's a couple pics of the hanging bud. About 25 man hours to trim it all up...Should be dry in a few days so I'll let you guys know the dry weight then. Also, I got about 2 lbs of trim, going to use immature buds for butter (about 1/2-1 oz I think) and the trim for hash. Going to grab a drill paint mixer at HD tomorrow and make that up!



And the clones got their first 12 hours of darkness today so it marks day 1 of flower for round 6. This is 100% Pineapple Express, 9 clones vegged 4 weeks. Got the screen installed and it's about 2" higher then I wanted, but I think it will work out fine. It's about 2-3 inches above the tops of most of the plants now. My scrog followers, am I good? Thanks homies appreciate the comments.

Someguy15 said:

Here's a couple pics of the hanging bud. About 25 man hours to trim it all up...Should be dry in a few days so I'll let you guys know the dry weight then. Also, I got about 2 lbs of trim, going to use immature buds for butter (about 1/2-1 oz I think) and the trim for hash. Going to grab a drill paint mixer at HD tomorrow and make that up!

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And the clones got their first 12 hours of darkness today so it marks day 1 of flower for round 6. This is 100% Pineapple Express, 9 clones vegged 4 weeks. Got the screen installed and it's about 2" higher then I wanted, but I think it will work out fine. It's about 2-3 inches above the tops of most of the plants now. My scrog followers, am I good? Thanks homies appreciate the comments.

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Nice harvest..I scrog and personally would not use chicken wire. The holes are to small.
I use fencing with 2in x 3in holes but would rather use 2x2.

You are gonna have a lot of foliage under the screen are you planning on lollipoping?