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#1Raiderfan420

#1Raiderfan420

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Hey bro, I agree it looks like PM in the second picture. It is a little tough to tell from the pics for sure. If you take mix a tablespoon of baking soda and a 1/4 cup of low fat milk in a liter of water and test a couple leaves with it, if it is pm it will dissapear when the sodium bicarbinate hits it. Same as green cure. I am currently using Excel LG ( which is very inexpensive) on my mother and through veg into the 4th week of flower. I also replaced the magic green foliar with Yellow Bottle Bloom Foliar, it is supposed to be a preventative and has worked well for me. The Excel is an organic systemic treatment for fungai so it might be a good one to use even if it isn't pm. The green cure will work through the rest of this flower if you make sure you get every inch of the plants and top of the medium. Just make sure not to mix the green cure too strong, it will burn your hairs if you do.
I also picked up some Eagle 20 but haven't used it yet. I am a little leary to be honest because it is nasty shit. It is supposed to kill pm forever systemically in your plants, but only good for mothers or new clones because you don't want to smoke it.
I would start with the green cure though if you already have it on hand and as you probably already know, after this grow you will need to bleach the shit out of your room.

Here is a great link on pm http://www.marijuana-ro.com/grow-faq/pests-disease-control/indoors---diseases/how-do-i-recognize-control-and-prevent-powdery-mildew.html

Here is another that talks about the Foliar spray- http://www.igrowhydro.com/InfoSheets/InfoSheet-Chitosan.pdf
 
CinderellaMan

CinderellaMan

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please check out my scrog and let me know what you think someguy! its in my sig. great work by the way man. i hope i can pull of a scrog like yours! absolutely beautiful.
 
Someguy15

Someguy15

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Turned out it's thrips! wtf. I have had 0 changes since the move (no clones in ect) and they show up now? hmmm maybe they've been lurking around all along and just got bad enough for me to notice. O well. Soaked the mothers & new clones in spinosad last night, can't find a moving thrip on them today. I will re-apply in 5 days probably to get the next round of hatchlings. Maybe do a third app just to be sure I get them all. After that I'll stop using it cuz I don't want to be breeding super thrips.

Also thanks to everyone who helped with PM tips, I was thinking it was PM at first until I looked a little closer. They were just annihilating my mothers, but I think I got it under control now.
 
Ferredoxin

Ferredoxin

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Someguy15 said:
Turned out it's thrips! wtf. I have had 0 changes since the move (no clones in ect) and they show up now? hmmm maybe they've been lurking around all along and just got bad enough for me to notice. O well. Soaked the mothers & new clones in spinosad last night, can't find a moving thrip on them today. I will re-apply in 5 days probably to get the next round of hatchlings. Maybe do a third app just to be sure I get them all. After that I'll stop using it cuz I don't want to be breeding super thrips.

Also thanks to everyone who helped with PM tips, I was thinking it was PM at first until I looked a little closer. They were just annihilating my mothers, but I think I got it under control now.
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You beat me to it. I had a similar issue with thrips, and spinosad took care of a pretty good infestation in ONE application. University studies have shown that spinosad residues can persist on outdoor foliage for up to 28 days, with significant mortality still occuring. My advice would be to hold off on the 2nd application unless you get another flare up.
 
Someguy15

Someguy15

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Ferredoxin said:
You beat me to it. I had a similar issue with thrips, and spinosad took care of a pretty good infestation in ONE application. University studies have shown that spinosad residues can persist on outdoor foliage for up to 28 days, with significant mortality still occuring. My advice would be to hold off on the 2nd application unless you get another flare up.
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Now my next problem. The flowering girls have apparently picked them up too. They will have 3 weeks left to chop on sunday. For now I have not applied anything and have just removed the most infected foliage, and removed it from the space. I am hoping to at least slow them down without resorting to sprays or fog bombs. Hopefully they can be eradicated on the next round...I was successful at eliminating the fungus gnats finally, yay!
 
Ferredoxin

Ferredoxin

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Someguy15 said:
Now my next problem. The flowering girls have apparently picked them up too. They will have 3 weeks left to chop on sunday. For now I have not applied anything and have just removed the most infected foliage, and removed it from the space. I am hoping to at least slow them down without resorting to sprays or fog bombs. Hopefully they can be eradicated on the next round...I was successful at eliminating the fungus gnats finally, yay!
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Technically, the pre-harvest interval for Spinosad is 1 day, but that is for edible crops like beans and peas. I cant find the PHI for Entrust on Tobacco, which would help us with the safety of spinosad on smokable finished product, but I did a pretty quick search. You might want to consider adding some Serenade to the mix, or whatever you prefer, to prevent botrytis with only 3 weeks left to finish.
 
Someguy15

Someguy15

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Ferredoxin said:
Technically, the pre-harvest interval for Spinosad is 1 day, but that is for edible crops like beans and peas. I cant find the PHI for Entrust on Tobacco, which would help us with the safety of spinosad on smokable finished product, but I did a pretty quick search. You might want to consider adding some Serenade to the mix, or whatever you prefer, to prevent botrytis with only 3 weeks left to finish.
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I'm good on the budrot, RH has been kept at 40-50% the entire flower. Now that winter is coming I don't even have to use my dehumidifier much to keep rh in check. I'll just be leaving the thrips on there, they can't do too much damage in the time frame. I will work on eliminating them from my clones and mothers, so far havn't seen any since first application. I'll do one more preventative spray when I harvest this round to make sure none got back to the clones or mothers, or were missed by the first spray.
 
Ferredoxin

Ferredoxin

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Someguy15 said:
I'm good on the budrot, RH has been kept at 40-50% the entire flower. Now that winter is coming I don't even have to use my dehumidifier much to keep rh in check. I'll just be leaving the thrips on there, they can't do too much damage in the time frame. I will work on eliminating them from my clones and mothers, so far havn't seen any since first application. I'll do one more preventative spray when I harvest this round to make sure none got back to the clones or mothers, or were missed by the first spray.
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Good deal. Whenever I have to spray my plants past ~21 days of 12/12 I add Serenade to the mix. If I have to get my buds wet, I might as well put something in place that will help prevent gray mold also.

Best of luck with the eradication. Thrips are a relatively easy problem to solve compared to mites!
 
SL2

SL2

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WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE!!! :clap::clap::clap:

That is unreal SG15...gonna be SICK when they are done...
 
SL2

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Hey bro, just stoppin in. Hope you got your issues sorted out. Those ladies must be blowin up and smellin sweet!

Lookin forward to the next update!!!
 
chb444220

chb444220

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love this growww!!!! ur deff 1 of my fav. growers... along with Skeet... (SL2).. and S1CC. keep it up man. cant wait to grow sum PE
 
Someguy15

Someguy15

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SL2 said:
Hey bro, just stoppin in. Hope you got your issues sorted out. Those ladies must be blowin up and smellin sweet!

Lookin forward to the next update!!!
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The thrips have been way slowed down by removing the most infected foliage. Def a useful method for those late in flower who don't want to spray ( I don't EVEERRRR spray muh buds lol) Thanks for the ping man, I'll get some pics up for everyone tonight, just been busy as hell.
chb444220 said:
love this growww!!!! ur deff 1 of my fav. growers... along with Skeet... (SL2).. and S1CC. keep it up man. cant wait to grow sum PE
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Thanks for the comment, to be on the same lvl as the greats on here would be amazing. Oh and you left Raiderfan#420, Quickrip, and Shrubs First... all amazing growers on here... hell there's so many haha... cruzer, tld, rzza, legallyflying, ect, ect. Props to everyone, 99% of everything you see was learned via RIU.
 
SL2

SL2

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Thanks to you man. Your comment about my plant problem, bringing up our different medium types and how yours holds more air helped me nail down my problem. It started me on a thought process and research. The 1/3 LW I added to the OF holds too much water and I was drowning them. I didn’t adjust my normal watering to match my modified soil… The LW is the only variable in my set up. That’s how I was taught in auto mechanics school. Find out what is not the problem and that will lead you to the problem…I can get the dual arc much closer like you do now that they can breathe! lol
Thanks again bro…I owe everything to RUI growers as well…
 
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