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medicineman

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"but there are certainly some unscrupulous attorneys ..."

And John Edwards is one of the worst to come down the pike in a long time.

Vi
Temper, temper, temper, lets hear which spotless right wing plutocrat you are promoting for the top office, Rudy Juliani, bad, John McCain, bad a Bush clone, so far all the repubs. I've seen are Bush Clones. What new fresh scoundrels are you supporting, or do you want more of the same stupidity we've had for the last 6 years! Now come on answer up! Don't turn this around and ask me a stupid question!
 

ViRedd

New Member
"Don't turn this around and ask me a stupid question!"

When have I ever asked you a stupid question?

Vi
 

ViRedd

New Member
Med ...

There are no "saviors" other than He who walked the planet 2000 years ago.

Now, my choice for president would be Ron Paul ... the congressman from Texas. A good choice for running mate would be Alan Keyes. Boy, would I love to see those two debate Hillary and Obama.

Vi
 

medicineman

New Member
Med ...

There are no "saviors" other than He who walked the planet 2000 years ago.

Now, my choice for president would be Ron Paul ... the congressman from Texas. A good choice for running mate would be Alan Keyes. Boy, would I love to see those two debate Hillary and Obama.

Vi
You sure you don't mean Rue Paul?
 

Wavels

Well-Known Member
I like Mr. Paul and Mr. Keyes, wish that they could become viable candidates!
Med, more competition within the health care insurance industry will do a lot more for the consumer than any govt. program.
 

medicineman

New Member
I like Mr. Paul and Mr. Keyes, wish that they could become viable candidates!
Med, more competition within the health care insurance industry will do a lot more for the consumer than any govt. program.
what if you can't afford insurance? I don't see competition among auto insurance as bringing the price down, or home insurance. Insurance for profit is a scam. Less coverage for more money is the reality! The insurance executives are among the highest paid, and when a disaster (Katrina) hits, they all run for cover!
 

ViRedd

New Member
The analogy to car insurance is easy to answer, Med. Here in California, if you are pulled over for a traffic violation and its discovered that you don't have auto insurance, the DMV will confiscate your licence and you will pay a hefty fine. For those who cannot afford the going rate, or for thoses who are greater risks, the insurance companies MUST insure under the "Assigned Risk" program. A minimum amount of insurance is all that the State requires. I believe it to be $15,000 in liability insurance. The same is true for homeowner's insurance in high fire danger areas. Insurance is available under the "Fair Plan."


Has there been any articles about insurance companies NOT paying insured customers who lost their homes to Katrina? Did they have flood insurance? Was flood insurance even available in an area that's below sea level?

Vi
 

medicineman

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Has there been any articles about insurance companies NOT paying insured customers who lost their homes to Katrina? Did they have flood insurance? Was flood insurance even available in an area that's below sea level?Denied Katrina Claims
by Ka




November 7, 2006 · Hundreds of homeowners along the Gulf Coast are suing insurance companies for refusing to pay for damage that their waterfront properties sustained from Hurricane Katrina. In denying their claims, insurers cited the language of the policies. But attorneys for homeowners argue that many of these claims were improperly denied.
Dr. Wesley McFarland lived in a big, yellow, two-story home right off the water in Bay St. Louis, Miss., for 53 years. Katrina demolished it.
Today, a set of concrete front steps is the only sign of the home that remains. McFarland runs a sprinkler in the hope of getting grass to grow back on his property. He doesn't understand why his insurance company, State Farm, denied his claim.
"I'm certainly frustrated," McFarland says. "But I'm also angry."
Defining Damage from Wind, Not Floods
Since nothing is left on the property, it's hard to say exactly how McFarland's house was swept away. But that's exactly the point. State Farm spokesman Fraser Engerman says much of the damage along the coast was caused by water that came in after the storm.
"We don't cover floods," Engerman says. "If the facts show that the cause of the damage was wind or wind-driven rain, such losses will be generally covered. But if the evidence shows it was due to flood or storm surge, that is clearly not covered in the insurance policy."
McFarland says his house "exploded due the hurricane winds, before the water came." Inside the FEMA trailer that sits on his property, he pulls large photographs out of an envelope that show the aftermath of the storm. The images show trees twisted and blown over in all directions. He says "helter skelter" winds were responsible.
McFarland's case and five others like it are getting ready to go to trial. They are known as "slab" cases because that's all that's left of their homes -- the foundation.
McFarland's attorney, Zach Scruggs, says that case law suggests that if wind was responsible for the initial damage to the home, "it doesn't matter what happened after that."
"When you have a 120 to 150 mile-per-hour winds beating on your house, for two to three to four hours before the water gets there, and the water is coming by the wind also, then there's coverage," Scruggs says.
Did Insurers Willfully Deny Valid Claims?
Scruggs says State Farm and other insurance companies are operating in bad faith by denying claims without a good reason. In some cases, Scruggs says, insurance companies had two engineering reports done. The first one would have provided coverage but the second one was used to deny payment.
"I think the motivation was for insurance companies to pay as little as possible for as long as possible," Scruggs says.
Two adjusters who used to work for State Farm have stepped forward, turning over thousands of pages of documents which they say suggest the company willfully denied valid claims. They are now working for Scruggs.
"They saw some things that they believed weren't proper in the adjusting and handling of these claims," Scruggs says.
A federal judge recently ordered four managers for State Farm to testify about the process the firm used to deny claims in these wind-water cases.
This past summer, in a Mississippi case involving Nationwide, a federal judge ruled that a couple whose home was damaged by Katrina was entitled to compensation for wind damage. But the facts in that case showed little actual damage caused by wind.
Some say the case is a good precedent for homeowners who will eventually get paid something for hurricane damage in the future. Others say it's a victory for insurance companies. State Farm spokesman Engerman says the majority of his clients are satisfied.
"We've closed over 98 percent of the claims that we received," Engerman says. "We paid out $3.5 billion to our policy holders on the Gulf Coast. So the assertion that somehow State Farm is not paying on claims is simply wrong."
Hoping for Recourse from the Courts
State Farm and other insurers say homeowners had to have separate flood-insurance policies to cover water damage. They are also asking the judge to move the trials farther north, out of the Gulf Coast, arguing that insurers can't get a fair trial in the region.
Animosity against insurers among local homeowners is hard to miss. Among them is U.S. Rep. Gene Taylor, who owned a house in Bay St. Louis and received no compensation from his homeowners' policy. Last November, he offered these stinging remarks on the House floor:

"I want to go on record as saying that I think there ought to be a national registry of child molesters -- and at the moment, insurance-industry executives -- because I think Americans ought to know if they live near one."

On vacant properties along the Gulf, homemade wooden signs have gone up vilifying insurance companies. Many who live here say little rebuilding is happening in these coastal communities, because people just don't have the money to pay mortgages on property they lost, and build a new home, too.
So they're waiting to see how this new set of legal cases isgoing to turn out>
Signs of the Times
It's still barren in Mississippi coastal communities where Katrina hit 14 months ago. In Bay St. Louis, most of the houses that once sat across from the Gulf are gone. Instead of front porches, FEMA trailers, lawn chairs, and BBQ grills sit on empty lots, facing the blue water.
And everywhere there are signs. Some bear the familiar "For Sale" pitch. A few carry slogans, like "Gone to the Bahamas." But in Bay St. Louis, the most common signs are the handwritten, plywood kind, bearing messages of rebuke against insurance companies.
In Dr. Wesley McFarland's yard, a sign next to his American flag reads "State Farm's Mediation is a Hoax." McFarland says he tried the mediation program before deciding to sue the company over what he says is failure to pay his claim. He bought his home in 1953; Hurricane Katrina destroyed it. The insurance company says McFarland is not entitled to any payment.
Other residents, including Bob and Pat Erichsen, say they didn't try mediation because they had such a difficult time getting an agent to come to their property in Pass Christian, Miss.
After their claim was denied last fall, the Erichsens asked for a second review from the insurance company. Again, their claim was denied.
The Erichsens were so upset that they wrote a letter to the CEO of State Farm. The letter says in part, "We are shocked, amazed and disappointed by your response and lack of support to our Katrina claim."
The Erichsens are now suing State Farm. The company says it will not discuss ongoing litigation.
The couple had a federal-flood insurance policy, as well as homeowners' insurance. But they could not recoup all of their loss from the government's flood policy. They say the combination of policies was supposed to protect them in case of a catastrophic event like Katrina.
Bob Erichsen says he and many others in Bay St. Louis feel betrayed. "I have a very low opinion of the insurance industry at this moment," he says.
People in town seem exhausted, constantly worrying whether they'll be able to rebuild.
Although the Erichsens used their own retirement savings and a loan from the Small Business Administration to start over, Pat Erichsen says the ordeal is wearing them down, both physically and emotionally.
"The emotional exhaustion is taking its toll," she says. "The stress level has been dragging everybody down."
Many along the Gulf admit they are depressed. Theirs is an altered landscape. Trees lie broken and dying. There is little new construction. Bob Erichsen says it looks as if Katrina hit just a few weeks ago.
"You can drive around and you can see," he says. "It still looks like a disaster. It's just a big mess."


Vi
Believe me If you have assigned risk insurance, you pay through the nose. And as far as Katrina, I've already posted the part about the Ins. co.s not paying or paying too little, If you like, I'll google some "facts" for you. As far as flood insurance in New Orleans, I imagine the cost would be prohibitive to most poor families. Thats how the for profit Ins. co.s work, they'll take your premiums and then fight like hell to not pay damages, all in the name of the almighty profit, can I get an Amen!
 
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