Nuclear Fusion has occurred on Earth!

Commander Strax

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"Ivy Mike" was a fusion explosion November 1st 1951. It left a big hole where some of bikini atoll used to be. The reaction was three times what the scientists had figured. The fall out outright killed the radio operator of a Japanese fishing trawler and radiated the rest of the crew along with the crew of the US ship and the people living on the next island over.

Well , It's a start.
 

Hugo Phurst

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Splitting hairs here, we've had fusion for decades now. We just can't contain or harness it yet.
[video=youtube;NNcQX033V_M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNcQX033V_M[/video]
 

bird mcbride

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Nuclear fusion is all to easy. A certain type of field has to be generated into the reactor core. This field breaks the h2o into hydrogen and oxygen and when the two ignite it changes back into water again etc. This same field is used in systems on the international space station to breakdown water vapor in the air produced by people breathing back into oxygen and hydrogen. At present the oxygen is recycled back into the system and the hydrogen is being dumped overboard.
 

Dr Kynes

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Nuclear fusion is all to easy. A certain type of field has to be generated into the reactor core.This field breaks the h2o into hydrogen and oxygen and when the two ignite it changes back into water again etc.
This same field is used in systems on the international space station to breakdown water vapor in the air produced by people breathing back into oxygen and hydrogen. At present the oxygen is recycled back into the system and the hydrogen is being dumped overboard.
so many things wrong about that assertion.


1 ) the space station and the space shuttle use Fuel Cells, not any "certain type of field"

2 ) what you are erroneously describing is not Fusion. thats a chemical reaction.

3 ) "igniting things" is what we call a chemical reaction, specifically. "fire" it's sorta new. you probably havent heard of it yet. but it does NOT make "water"

4 ) if that were fusion then fusion was perfected 50,000 years ago in a cave near Olduvai Gorge in Kenya by a Homo Habilis who still hadnt figured out how to make stone tools.

5 ) not even close. thats not even how fuel cells work. heres a pretty picture:



~http://americanhistory.si.edu/fuelcells/basics.htm
 

ak84

Member
Reads like good news to me. Nuclear fusion is a much cleaner alternative to fission and it could potentially save us.
 

bird mcbride

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i think every home should be equipped with it's own Google Box.

maybe you should invest in one.
Fusion is the reaction of two basic molecules, hydrogen and oxygen. The sun produces a field that breaks these two elements apart as soon as they are fused back together. That is the fusion that I am refering to. Fact is you know shit and google ain't going to disclose the entire truth to you or anyone about nuclear fusion. In fact a process known as hydrolysis(which uses a field to do this) breaks the water vapour into oxygen and hydrogen and the oxygen is recycled back into the space station. This has nothing to do with fuel cells. Speaking of fuel cells, the oxygen in the cryo tanks on the apollo missions was o3, not o2. This is why so many who have tried to get this cold fusion reactor to work have failed. There are in fact different types of fusion reactors. Hot and cold fusion. Don't get the two confused. Fact is up until recently it takes more energy to produce this field than what the hot fusion reactor was putting out. If you can't understand that I really don't know how to help you. Here in Canada we now have a device that is way simpler and way more efficient for producing waste free electricity. It also employs a field; a sonic force field...
 

heckler73

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Fusion is the reaction of two basic molecules, hydrogen and oxygen. The sun produces a field that breaks these two elements apart as soon as they are fused back together. That is the fusion that I am refering to.
What is this field? Your story sounds great except for the missing details...
 

bird mcbride

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Here's another clue. The German government during the early part of the 20th century had an interest in zeppelins or flying air ships. They removed hydrogen from water using this same method. It is really ancient.
 

Beefbisquit

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Here's another clue. The German government during the early part of the 20th century had an interest in zeppelins or flying air ships. They removed hydrogen from water using this same method. It is really ancient.
You mean electrolysis of water by passing a current through it?
 

frizzlegooch

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Nuclear energy is a BAD idea
I tend to agree . It's great and clean until you have to dispose of the hazardous waste. There are many cleaner and safer alternatives . People generally fear the unknown and I must say I don't fully understand the specifics of nuclear power but having a mike power plant even in my county would scare me .
 

heckler73

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Okay... there seems to be a lot of misunderstanding regarding nuclear reactors.
Reactors like Fukushima come from the 1st & 2nd generation designs... we are now onto Gen III/III+ and looking forward to Gen IV...
Watch how the Chinese professor drops the graphite shielded pellets and chuckles...

[video=youtube;4A1uoJ1Z5iA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A1uoJ1Z5iA[/video]

EDIT: Just a link to a good synopsis of the different Gen IV technologies on the table currently (as of July 2013)
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Nuclear-Fuel-Cycle/Power-Reactors/Generation-IV-Nuclear-Reactors/#.UlsP4RBYKzc
 

ginjawarrior

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3 ) "igniting things" is what we call a chemical reaction, specifically. "fire" it's sorta new. you probably havent heard of it yet. but it does NOT make "water"
Hmm what exactly do you think you get when you combine oxygen and hydrogen with fire?
 

bird mcbride

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You mean electrolysis of water by passing a current through it?
Yes, an electrostatic field has to be produce inside of the reactor core for the purpose of defusing. The core also has to be brought up to a specific temp in order for the fusion to continue, similar in some ways as a diesel engine.
 
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