My Indoor Set Up : ) Take a look Is all I am gonna say ha

put some air flow through the plants. it will make your stocks A LOT thicker and stronger and you will get more bud. simulate wind but not to strong ha but other than that man, shit looks amazing =]

Great tips everyone thanks a lot! So yea i am gonne mention all this new stuff to my friend with the equipment. With sog looks like were only doin 3 gallon buckets. Wish we could 5 gallons and do some real big girls.

Gopedxr said:

Great tips everyone thanks a lot! So yea i am gonne mention all this new stuff to my friend with the equipment. With sog looks like were only doin 3 gallon buckets. Wish we could 5 gallons and do some real big girls.

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I think you might be confusing SOG with ScrOG. With ScrOG (Screen of Green) you want the plant to get very bushy and fill a wire screen to maximize each individual budding site's potential. SOG (Sea of Green), however, involves packing as many plants as possible into your grow space in, say, the cut-away bottoms of 2L soda bottles. This allows you to pack ~4 identical plants (clone use is necessary for identical genetics) per square foot, which promotes mostly vertical growth and one huge main cola per plant. Both methods are ways to maximize yield per area, and both have their pros and cons.

Hey bro... things look good. Like others are saying you are doing something right with happy healthy looking plants as you have. I think HPS is the way to go for flowering myself. Try and get a bulb with an enhanced spectrum. I use a Hortilux Eye bulb... it gives off real good light. The orange part of the light is supposed to make dense big buds, while the blue part makes more trichs. This is what I have seen at least... You could find people to tell you different, and argue about it all day... but me and my buddies have found a good mix of HPS and MH light to be great during flowering. Either using both HPS and MH bulbs (with the more wattage being HPS... 2/1 ratio being good hps to mh)... or by using a dual spectrum/ enhanced spectrum bulb.

Those LED's would be great to veg under because you can get them so close to the plants... keeping them from stretching.

I know nothing about soil, so i can't comment there. However I can say that I love Humboldt County's Own products. I've used gravity on every grow... and bushmaster on all but one. Have'nt tried Snow Storm yet... it's kinda sketchy to use in hydro which I grow in.

Got any new pics?

EDIT: I just looked and saw those pics were posted 5 days ago.. Guess not much has changed sinse then. Keep it up.

Gopedxr said:

People over on grow kind are saying hps is good. Especially if you get two 600's can cover a lot more room. Opinions?

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i have two 600's, one veg, one flower , fuckin nice, fuckin economical , fuckin 'nuf said , i would do the same, and maybe just have the leds in as well for supplemental lighting, if you could choose 600 or led to grow under, you should be choosing the 600

yeah bruh it looks like youve got pretty much everything in order. def get 2 600's fuck the 1k's. they put out a lot of heat! but yea. just get shit cleaned up and organized thats really important. and get a calander keep track of everything. good genetics and good nutrients. your on your way to prducing pounds bruh!!

Honestly im going to get jumped right now but if you really do your research it will be proven right, HPS is now a complete waste of time as is a regular MH in my mind, the ONLY HID i would use would be CMH, now there is also LED highly recomended i dont know what manufacturer your using but i suggest running lighthouse if your on a budget and if you got a little bit more to spend run the kessil lights (they only cover 2sq ft but they are bright as all hell, best led on the market nasa uses em). Now theres a new kid on the block in Induction aka Plasma lighting. You get the same advantages of having an led only you get light that is closer to the actual color of the sun and it puts out more light per w consumed as well. a 200w plasma light is equivalent to about 800w HPS and about 1000wMH. I would take a good long hard look plasma/induction lighting if your already going to be droppping about 7-8 bills for two 600w lamps and reflectors. The plasma lighting is where its at if your on a large scale, if your on a smaller scale the LED is still more efficient and just better overall than anything else. But if you going for a large grow area and large crops then plasma is the way to go if not CMH dont waste your time on anything else anymore its outdated technology. Theres better results out there for less money now. Especially if you go CMH i mean you cant even run CMH on a digital ballast it has to be old school magnetic so theres a money saver and bulbs arent that expensive and they are beast.... I would stick with the LED personally but it looks like you got a bit of a large area so for your situation CMH or Plasma is probably best. 2 400w cmh bulbs will put out more usable light to your ladies than 2 600w hps. Plants lookin good guy

Danielsgb said:

I'm no fan of LED's. I use CMH's. Plants look good, but if you had a 400W CMH or two. Just wonder if you'll get the penetration once they're 6" to 12" taller. Didn't get where you are into flowering. May have missed it.
Daniels

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I'm with Dan here, Things looking goodand seems to be working. You mentioned the 600 but ya might wan't to give the CMH a try. Just my opinion.

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lose the bags dont buy trays thiers a waste of money use the black and white plastice and some 2x4or6 from hd and build some trays very eay and can be any size you want these hard palstic trays area waste i have too many and hate them now that i am a few turns in i wish i never bought 1, kpac just runs off on the floor hes the man. and i hate leds and led growers so u beeter hit the star fucker and stay low key legal or not because were all not legal no matter what our state says, take care.

oh yeah MH or CMH less moving parts in ballast always a good thing. never used cmh but uses mh ballast.

Subscribed, not sure what else to add lol, how them plants doin?

Were you at in socal man? I am all over the area man you name it. They looking good i need to get more pics asap

my advice would be to buy switchable or convertable ballast they leave you more options down the road and they are only about 10$ more

withoutAchance said:

oh yeah MH or CMH less moving parts in ballast always a good thing. never used cmh but uses mh ballast.

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Not sure what moving part you could be talking about. CMH use a HPS Ballast unless it's under 250W. 150W and below use a Pulse Start MH Ballast.
Kaptain Kron has it right. Still un-sold on Induction & the Plasma I want it is WAY too expensive. CMH gives a better quality Bud. I would use two 400W CMH over a 1000W HPS/MH.
Daniels

im confused, do you have just LED going? do you have a flower and veg room? where is the hps?

how tall did you get them with the LED and at what distance form canopy? i keep my LED real close like 6-8 inches in veg and 3-6 in flower...everyone recommends a lot higher...

also did you swee your plants grow much more when you put them into flower form veg? (did they veg under just LED and still flower under just LED?) still confused on where the hps is, as you stated it in the first thread but said everything was done under led's!

great set up, thanks for visiting my thread cant wait to see your buds!

withoutAchance said:

lose the bags dont buy trays thiers a waste of money use the black and white plastice and some 2x4or6 from hd and build some trays very eay and can be any size you want these hard palstic trays area waste i have too many and hate them now that i am a few turns in i wish i never bought 1, kpac just runs off on the floor hes the man. and i hate leds and led growers so u beeter hit the star fucker and stay low key legal or not because were all not legal no matter what our state says, take care.

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woah bro those are some harsh words, why hate on somthing that works and those who use them. Do you not like me because i can still pull just as much product as you can with a 240w panel as you can with a 600w hps? Is it upsetting to you that i dont have to worry about a massive power bill, is it upsetting to you that i dont have to worry about choppers and FLIR, is it upsetting to you that i live in the state of california and use what my state has given me to cover my ass? Yeah? Upset? Fucking move to california and buy a fucking led and stop your bitching. MH and HPS are outdated technology. CMH is the only HID i would use besides a plasma and they still arent quite where i would be comfortable with them yet. Too expensive for the proper ones, small scale yea maybe in veg or something but large scale unless you got lots of bucks to blow stick with LED or CMH

Kaptain Kron said:

Do you not like me because i can still pull just as much product as you can with a 240w panel as you can with a 600w hps?

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Kaptain Kron said:

MH and HPS are outdated technology....

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Whoa Kron, no hate or anything but these claims your making is sure to be invalid. No way HID's are out dated. LED are great but they are not that great just yet, maybe one of these days.

Plants in pot. Leaves nice and green. Why exactly did you send me a personal message? Looks like you have it under control but if you need questions just message me again.

shit looks good for led man!!! maybe get a few warm white spectrum cfls for some added light power..... be sure to have your led has close to plants has possible keep in mind they put off like zero heat!

Thanks for the help everyone! One of the plants looks like someone poured sugur all over. Pics will come soon want to let them get a little bigger so i can surprise you all haha. Might be hitting the store today for peralite and roots organic 707 soil or happy frog next time. Let me know