Let's see if attitude is really a reliable source for genetics! Beware!

spencer2121 said:

I'll post pics soon! As I said these are landrace strains so every seed female is identical

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and why do you think that? Landraces have lotsa phenos...nature does not selectively breed and stabilize

The butan thimphu say 14 weekss flower so add a couple..16 weeks. Its still going.. Almost pure sativa is what it says. I never would have purchased. I hate those long winded ones .. My bad as I was thinking 8 week strains..

Kite High said:

and why do you think that? Landraces have lotsa phenos...nature does not selectively breed and stabilize

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Tis quite true, if they're landrace seeds.. you may experience quite a few different phenos in a pack of 10 seeds. Is why there's a few breeders that many love to deal with - you're dealing with an extremely high certainty of getting the same thing, or very close to the same thing close to 99% of the time (See: F7 seeds) which have also solidified certain pheno/genotypes that are absolutely critical in terms of what people want.

PurpleBuz said:

no I am saying if you sell it you have to stand by it irregardless of what it is. if you can't verify it one way or another what you are selling what BUSINESS do you have selling it. oh btw I have a car for you that I have never seen it before but its supposed to be sweet... and its fire engine red !

In this case its seed from a breeder, Attitude is using their Own name to sell the seed, One way to verify the seed is to grow it and test it, but their name stands behind it, but they don't they are ducking behind disclaimers. At the very least they should gurantee the seed and strain at least for refund of the price to the customer irregardless.

Finally to answer your question, Yes the ideal seedbank would test (grow) everything that they sell, otherwise they are not a bank, but just a car salesperson.

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which is what they are...a marketing firm focused on cannabis seeds...so you are seeking that they be what they are not

Mattemil said:

Dude you said that like a week ago about the bhutanese....The next post is you praising attitude.

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Your right and wrong, see I had the dates mixed up about when the bt went into flower, now that I've figured it out I see that it's gonna be 8 weeks in on thursday! So this is week 8,

in veg the plant grew awesome, doesn't require many Nutes and grows very rapidly, drinks alot tho and all I used was sensi a and b grow in veg, I does well under metal halide and my t5 panels, so I was very excited, I've even spoke to a guy (whom im now friends with)from Africa about these strains and he was familiar with those strains, but not with holy smokes!

but as I started doing research I could find nothing! I wanted to find that somebody finished these with good results but that was not the case! Except for horrible reviews! From this forum alone there's like 5! It seems that holy smokes is a scam. And based on my results these look exactly like the ones another guy was growing and his were in week 14!

no purpling, and still had white hairs shooting into week 15!!!!
I just know that it's the strain, I've got 24 strains man! I've spent serious coin for genetics!
This is complete bullshit seeds! I've grown schwag, first mistake I ever made as a grower! This is bullshit ditch weed and their pictures are complete bullshit lies! And if they don't fix this at least others will know to beware!

ProfessorPotSnob said:

I lost faith in Attitude years ago and I refuse to waste time with the company myself .. I refuse to grow Dutch and Spain's genetics and the other breeders who outsource breeding in these countries . So in all actuality the place has nothing to offer me .. But I am going to say I have grown hundreds of crops and Attitude seeds were always the worst no matter the breeder ..

To me they are the Walmart of the Seed Industry as there standards are the same .. No offense meant to anyone who is subjected to this company but its overwhelmingly becoming another corporation based on pure greed that does our culture no justice .

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personally I agree with most of the Dutch suck a bit...but some great things are coming out of spain...ace and cannabiogen for instance, positronics etc...

a great seedbank that is my primary source for everything not local or canadian

http://www.growshopalien.com/onlineshop/contents/en-uk/d40_cannabisseedsseedbank.html

Kite High said:

you are admitting to breaking a plethora of Federal laws with you words dude

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Dude I have terminally Ill patients who depend on the medicine i grow in accordance with my state laws, Feds are after dirty dealers not patients and caregivers with 4 lights..

op maybe see if Jodie will suck you off and you can call it even

bamacheese said:

You ordered some schwaggy sounding strains to start with. I would never order any African strain and expect it to not be a ditchweed sativa with little medical use. Regardless of how the pictures look.

I've been very pleased with Attitude, I would pin this on the breeder. Attitude can't grow out every strain they offer to test for their customers, it is logistically impossible. You did all you could do, which is contact them about the illegitimacy of the breeder.

The best advice I can offer to you is this:

TGA, DNA, Reserva Privada, Serious Seeds. Order them in the original breeder's pack. These 4 breeders have never let me down.

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TGA is laughable at best...Serious and DNA have a couple of decent offerings...I have grown some Malawi that would make you cry to god to come down....

Figong said:

Tis quite true, if they're landrace seeds.. you may experience quite a few different phenos in a pack of 10 seeds. Is why there's a few breeders that many love to deal with - you're dealing with an extremely high certainty of getting the same thing, or very close to the same thing close to 99% of the time (See: F7 seeds) which have also solidified certain pheno/genotypes that are absolutely critical in terms of what people want.

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I grew 12 identical plants guys! Come on now, I even kept one male around because I decided to do a little breeding, whoops!

spencer2121 said:

Fuck you man! I've ordered tons of seeds from a lot of breeders attitude carries and have never had a single problem with any other company so therefor established a trust that my money was being spent at a reliable source! They advertised a promo and I gave them my money! They need to accept responsibility! I'm legal to grow and no laws were broke period, it's a bullshit disclaimer so they can get away with peddling ditch weed seeds! Btw most of the strains I grow turn out just like the picture so maybe your doing something wrong!

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Once you germ them, it is out of their hands.

They cannot legally send seeds to the states to be germed. EVEN SENDING SEEDS TO STATES IS ILLEGAL!

Plus, they have no way to know if your growing methods were legit. Maybe you got a really finicky strain and it didnt like the way it was grown.

datguy said:

I hear ya but like I said... Nirvana, G-13, Barneys etc the big ones have a lot more positive than neg reviews. I on other hand never heard of this strain or breeder

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NIRVANA??? OMFG...now that is some bs genetics there

Cobnobuler said:

Order your gear from Sannies where you dont have to worry about genetics. Everything they have is straight fire They aint big with half a million strains from 300 different breeders, just the best thats all.
I'm not shillin for them by the way, I'm just saying from my experience with them. I wouldnt buy seeds anywhere else.

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Yes Sannies is one of the few dutch breeders that is awesome I agree

stoned cockatoo said:

op maybe see if Jodie will suck you off and you can call it even

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Lmfao

spencer2121 said:

Multiple phenos is not the issue because these are landrace strains! Meaning pure bread strains!

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Or... you didn't do enough research on the strain and got duped by the companies fancy description.

Kite High said:

TGA is laughable at best...Serious and DNA have a couple of decent offerings...I have grown some Malawi that would make you cry to god to come down....

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Dude I seen that YouTube video from green house about Malawi gold and was so pumped for that strain to turnout good!

Figong said:

The top 2 that I would recommend for solid genetics would be TGA and Sannies (in no particular order, as I'd say both fall into the A-1/ superior quality genetics category) As with anything, there is always a chance of anomoly but those two appear to be quite solid in terms of advertising vs what you will get. Take this as what it is, and by all means I welcome anyone who wishes to argue my two recommendations to google and show more than a potential few rare incidents, if any exist whatsoever. (specific to the genetics, not grow conditions that caused fail)

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I firmly disagree with TGA...those are in no way strains but rather pollen chunking crosses with pheno hell...and just as firmly agree that Sannies is great gear

Kite High said:

I firmly disagree with TGA...those are in no way strains but rather pollen chunking crosses with pheno hell...and just as firmly agree that Sannies is great gear

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I haven't seen much of an issue in terms of pheno hell, but will by no means argue re: Sannies, awesome dependable shit - always.

spencer2121 said:

Lmfao

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I just picture her as sexy

stoned cockatoo said:

I just picture her as sexy

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I tried but all I can think of is my wasted time and money