Led Growing Is The Way Of The Future My Friends

rick19011 said:

The expensive LED grow lights from companys like glh are amazing, there 290w led outperforms a 400w hps easily, it produces more dense, potent buds.

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If you think GLH is expensive at just under $3 per watt you should see some other companies. I think the penetrator series of LED panels only use 1w diodes and they want just over $5 per watt.

That said, the cheapest that is worth it that I've seen would be Blackstar 3w diode panelsthat are sometimes only $1.9-2 per watt. I've seen companies that wanted $4 or more per watt, but they always seem to use 1w diodes and not have the tech that GLH and a few others use which keeps more than 1 LED from going out at a time.

hey guys i all so grow with leds and sell them what i have found out you get good things in the veg room i have a30x30 veg room were i test my lights i have 4 300watt leds 1 120watt and a 2x4 i made with cree leds in the flower room 25x30 i did 4 600watt leds it gave smaller buds but the thc looks like snow on the buds so i tested 1 1000hps and 1 600watt led 11 plants the hps 600grams the led 450grams now i run 4 600watt leds and 2 1000hps in same room the plants go under the leds for 1 mon. and finsh under the hps i cut down on heat on 1000hps running open hoods all runs on 220v i sell 600watt for 950.00 have a good day kentrugrolights

when you make a light you need to put a resitor at each led if you lose the led the curent goes thu resitor all the others keep going

if you lose more then one light most often it is a driver a 300watt light has 4 drivers in it a600watt led has 6 drivers in it a 90 watt has 2 drivers

I know little about LED technology other than seeing it's use in theatrical and concert lighting evolve. Personally, I believe once the killer panel arrives, everyone will be using it. There will be little resistance once all of the promises made by this new technology are fulfillled.

if they could make a led to copy hps we would have it

if the hps would tell us are if you could test a hps and get the color you would have it

as soon as they can get them to flower right the race is on

kentrugrolights said:

if they could make a led to copy hps we would have it

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That would be a terrible waste as most of the light produced by HPS is useless to plants. The advantage to LED is you can target very specific wavelengths and use as much of them as you want, where with HPS its a brute force method and you waste a lot of power on crap you can't use (useless wavelengths and LOTS of heat).

Has anyone else noticed that 99% of the people hyping up LED's as a god send are shills or have never even finished a grow with them ?

Negative Rep said:

Has anyone else noticed that 99% of the people hyping up LED's as a god send are shills or have never even finished a grow with them ?

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Yeah, I should really do better to keep journals here to prove my LED. But I've also noticed that the people who say LED can't flower as well as HPS have not seen grows done with good panels who have never used LED before

Runbyhemp said:

I checked Irishboy's threads here, and no disrespect to you but I just don't believe what I'm seeing. All a sales pitch IMHO. If it looks and smells like a sales pitch it most likely is. Wasn't he the guy whose threads were pulled on ICGMAG, because nobody else could achieve similar results with the same lights, or maybe its someone else I'm thinking of.

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I made the decision to try LED for the summer. I just can't cool a 1000w heater (and yes it is air cooled). So for the summer I have decided to make the switch. I will gladly go fully LED but I don't expect to see the results that I do from my HPS. But I expect to recoup my money in summer grows and I will use them to supplement my flower room.
I read Irishboy's comments and felt the same way. That doesn't make it good or bad. But it makes me skeptical. I see one rep here identify himself, I like that. So i apologize to Irishboy if your not but it comes across that way.
So I went with the blackstar. It is the lowest cost that seem to have effective results. Hopefully I have an opinion in a few months base on experience.

kentrugrolights said:

hey guys i all so grow with leds and sell them what i have found out you get good things in the veg room i have a30x30 veg room were i test my lights i have 4 300watt leds 1 120watt and a 2x4 i made with cree leds in the flower room 25x30 i did 4 600watt leds it gave smaller buds but the thc looks like snow on the buds so i tested 1 1000hps and 1 600watt led 11 plants the hps 600grams the led 450grams now i run 4 600watt leds and 2 1000hps in same room the plants go under the leds for 1 mon. and finsh under the hps i cut down on heat on 1000hps running open hoods all runs on 220v i sell 600watt for 950.00 have a good day kentrugrolights

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I plan to run my HPS and LED together about 8-9 months a year and shut down the HPS during the months that would require supplemental cooling. During the winter I heat from my HPS, blows through my can filter, I almost never have heat come on during the night. So my Blackstars (which hopefully arrive today) will limp me through the summer with only circulation house A/C. I'll have June, a new flowering crop in about 2 weeks so we'll see.

you are right if it is a small space you can grow and flower with leds i put 11 plants under 1 600watt led and 1 1000hps my lights gave me 650gams for hps and 450gams for leds i have my own buss. so i grow with my lights and test them leds in my veg room do real well .i have 4 300watt leds 1 120watt and one i made 2x4 light in veg they do great in floweing i put 3 600watt leds the buds were smaller but the thc looked like snow on the buds to get the bigger yield i put 2 1000hps i put the plants under the leds frist for 1 mon. them push them uder the 1000hps to give the bigger yield the leds come 110v you replace the pulg with a 220v plug the 600 leds will pull 2amps 300 pull 1.5amps the price is 750.00 for a 300watt and 950.00 for a 600watt i use all the lights i sell

just put in some new little guys to also try a 12/12 fro seed experiment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRNkaWjtNqc

also im not claiming anyone should give up there proven techniques but i feel that in the new future things will take a big change and stubborn hps / "conventional growers" might be biting there tounges pretty bad

curly604 said:

also im not claiming anyone should give up there proven techniques but i feel that in the new future things will take a big change and stubborn hps / "conventional growers" might be biting there tounges pretty bad

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LED plant growing panels have made big strides in the last 12 months. Many companies are now finally switching from 1w diodes to 3w diodes so they get much better penetration and light output, and several more have started using the tech that keeps 1 dead LED from taking out a bunch of others. If you buy from the right company (I think there are 4-5 safe bets) you will definitely grow a higher quality product, and perhaps even twice as much weight watt for watt over MH/HPS going SCROG (not sure about developing exotics like Plasma and others) so yeah I can see a good 180w being as good or better than a 400w HID. In the next couple years LEDs will advance even more for growing and then it will be even tougher for people to not realize the truth (because then even the companies that are not on the front lines will be selling products better than the ones there are now)

jdizzle22 said:

LED plant growing panels have made big strides in the last 12 months. Many companies are now finally switching from 1w diodes to 3w diodes so they get much better penetration and light output, and several more have started using the tech .....snip

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Without a doubt. Just look at stage lighting in its current state of the art. They started using 3w years ago and are beyond that now to the best of my knowledge.

It has transformed that industry in many ways. Many street lights are now LED in many countries. It will change everything.

But until that "Killer App" panel hits the market it's too close to the "Bleeding Edge" for me. I would hate to find myself upside down on an investment that size. No shops in my area carry them except in their consignments. But it's no doubt aound the corner.

LED's don't even work good for house plants let alone a high intensity light loving plant like cannabis so whoever said they saw a side by side comparison of led's to hps is full of bs, LED's can't even compare to HPS or MH.. but I'm a stoner so what do I really know?

max316420 said:

LED's don't even work good for house plants let alone a high intensity light loving plant like cannabis so whoever said they saw a side by side comparison of led's to hps is full of bs, LED's can't even compare to HPS or MH.. but I'm a stoner so what do I really know?

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Not much about good LED panels apparently, but that is not your fault as there are many crappy LED companies out there pushing crap. Check out Irish boys LED grows on here for starters (there are a lot more LED grows at 420mag than here). I am convinced because I've seen about a dozen completed grows using LEDs from the company I chose (have read grows from other companies but not as many) and they were all at least as impressive as HPS (not sure how it compares to plasma and other exotics). Most of those grows were done when the companies panels still used 2w diodes, now they're all 3 and kicking more ass than ever, definitely better than MH/HPS watt for watt. Heck I say if you buy from the right one you can get away with half the wattage of HID with the best LED companies.

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