How to Read your Plants?

Uncle Ben

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congrats on ur 3k post UB. I don't want to start an arguement but how can you pretend to be the only one who fully knows and understands the powers of the moon. To speak with such certainty that there can absolutely be no correlation between pressures built inside of plants, and the pull of the moon. I'm not saying there definately is, but how can you know for sure?

And for someone who so eagerly challenges anyone that ever defies "conventional growing wisdom" I'm surprised that you quaff at moon cycles, that have been used by farmers for a very long time. The moon has always been given its regard, and has numerous uses. How long have ppl been using the moon?

I don't see why you discourage anyone who doesn't think exactly as you do. In the end, whether a question is right or wrong, by constantly stomping on ppls ideas your are discouraging the advancement of education as a whole.
Link me to some scientific studies please.

Honestly, I haven't gotten that far along in my grow to know if they terminate completely. The plants are doing really well with them.
I admit that I haven't read this thread post to post, but pots that use air pruning to terminate root tips should work, IF, and this is a big if, the ambient RH is fairly low. FWIW, copper hydroxide painted pots is foolproof. It always works.

Good luck,
UB
 

Yeah Right

Active Member
I admit that I haven't read this thread post to post, but pots that use air pruning to terminate root tips should work, IF, and this is a big if, the ambient RH is fairly low. FWIW, copper hydroxide painted pots is foolproof. It always works.

Good luck,
UB[/QUOTE]
Not to sound like a noob, but I assume you mean ambient "relative humidity"? I bet I'm outside the range you speak of. Right this second it's right at 50%. It's usually about 60%. After a watering it gets up into the 70's before coming back down. I let the soil get fairly dry.....but not dry. I've read a bunch of your work, like your sticky on moisture stress. I "think" I'm seeing evidence that letting the roots gets O2 is a good thing. It's tough to tell unless it's a controlled experiment.
 

Uncle Ben

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Not to sound like a noob, but I assume you mean ambient "relative humidity"? I bet I'm outside the range you speak of. Right this second it's right at 50%. It's usually about 60%. After a watering it gets up into the 70's before coming back down. I let the soil get fairly dry.....but not dry. I've read a bunch of your work, like your sticky on moisture stress. I "think" I'm seeing evidence that letting the roots gets O2 is a good thing. It's tough to tell unless it's a controlled experiment.
Yeah, relative humidity. Like in aeroponics, the root tip termination won't happen if the garden's ambient RH is high. I thought the purpose of Smart Pots was to increase root mass via root tip termination. Are you using them to increase O2? You don't need to. Here's a photo of a large plant in a 3 gallon pot, soil top to bottom, no special treatment.

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Uncle Ben got a PM for ya but your inbox is full :)
I'll clean house. I never check it now that the status bar is at the bottom, plus I get tired of the "how much do I water" questions.....so filling it up is a good thang. :)
 

Yeah Right

Active Member
A little of both actually. Hmmmm, more hype maybe? They sure seem to like those pots. Maybe I just learned enough from my last grow that it's going that much better? I dunno. I'll post my results as I move forward. As you can tell, I'm fairly new. My real purpose for using them bottom line is to increase root mass and increase growth.
 

TheLastWood

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Scientific studies for what? Were simply speculating. were not declaring anything, the only one saying they know everything about plants and the moon is you.

I read a lot of what you write UB and I have the most respect for you, but when ppl can't even speculate over new ideas without you trying to squash what they have to say, then the arrogance of your biased contempt becomes quite obnoxious. I don't see you challenging riddlemes experiments with IR or making it rain, and these were born from the effect of rain and sunrise/sunset, why is the moon such a far stretch?

Its because it really has nothing to do with what's being said, rather who is saying it, and your fetish with challenging and belittling ppl.
 

Uncle Ben

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Scientific studies for what? Were simply speculating. were not declaring anything, the only one saying they know everything about plants and the moon is you.

I read a lot of what you write UB and I have the most respect for you, but when ppl can't even speculate over new ideas without you trying to squash what they have to say, then the arrogance of your biased contempt becomes quite obnoxious. I don't see you challenging riddlemes experiments with IR or making it rain, and these were born from the effect of rain and sunrise/sunset, why is the moon such a far stretch?

Its because it really has nothing to do with what's being said, rather who is saying it, and your fetish with challenging and belittling ppl.
Sorry, I'm not into political correctness and feelings. I'm into facts. Spin my approach anyway you see fit.

UB
 

Uncle Ben

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And some of these folks will discover great things.
Of course, like ways to rip off noobs.

I haven't seen a "great thing" come out of this biz, ever, and I've been posting and involved in cannabis forums for at least 15 years. Quite the contrary, I have seen hundreds of lame cannabis forums pop up, hundreds of seed banks selling the same old crap while calling it something different than the one before, hundreds of snake oils and bullshit vendors.

UB
 

TheLastWood

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Not for a lack of great things, but an inability to see them.

I truly feel sorry for you. I think there's a lot of brilliant ideas, there necessity isn't the determining factor of wether it is great or not.

For example, you CAN clone in a cup of water in a windowsill, that doesn't make aero cloners worthless, or mean they are not a great tool. I don't use one, and I have one.

EDIT not saying your wrong about the multitude of unnecessary products, designed with greed.
 

tokinman

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bump.. thanks for the great thread and info.. finally had a chance to read post to post. just loads of good info. thanks guys for all the added insight!!
 

nubbis1020

Active Member
I just finished this thread, and I have to say wow. This thread is packed full off info for new growers. I am a new grower myself. After 5 mins of reading I started to become more interested and wanting to read more and to suck in more info. To the OP. Definitely plus rep+
 

smokebros

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I found the more time I dedicated to gaining knowledge the better grower I became. I can remember spending hours upon hours reading through forums, google searching, re-reading information to make sure I remembered it, watching videos, asking questions, and it was all worth while.

I prefer to master a few things rather than just be ok at a lot of things. To all the new growers out there, trust me - I understand it can become frustrating at times but remember nothing in life that is worth having comes easy, and the skills to become a great cultivator of cannabis falls into that category.
 
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