Helena Vigil & Testimony

Discussion in 'Montana Patients' started by Danielsgb, Mar 7, 2011.


    Danielsgb Well-Known Member

    Come to Helena on Friday.


    “Fix It, Don’t Nix It”

    We urge all of you – and all of your friends and loved ones – to come to Helena if at all possible to attend the repeal hearing on Friday morning, March 11. Very soon afterwards we plan to congregate for an hour-long silent vigil in remembrance of patients who have passed and for peaceful, fair regulatory improvements to our medical marijuana law.

    We urge you to attend so that we can fill the building – to quietly and calmly make a profound impression of public support for patients’ rights, one that eclipses, both in numbers of citizens and in our high-minded, positive and meditative style, any prior gathering legislators ever have seen. With enough of us behaving appropriately, we will make Montana history.

    Imagine legislators making their way to the 1 pm floor sessions, having to pass by hundreds and hundreds (thousands?) of good Montanans standing peacefully in silent witness to the intensity and importance of our purpose!

    This is our goal – and we’re convinced it can stop the momentum for repeal in its tracks – but we need your help to succeed! Please come to Helena if at all possible.

    Friday, March 11
    8 AM – Hearing starts in Room 303 on HB 161, the repeal bill
    Afterwards – Silent Vigil emanating from 3rd floor Rotunda balcony area

    We will have buttons and important handout information ready for everyone. And we will have more details in another news/update early next week. Buses are being arranged in some locations for patients and other supporters who need transportation. Scroll down at our Facebook page for a link to the latest listing of available bus rides:

    Download & Print the Attached Poster – Forward to Friends

    The attachment is a poster for the hearing/vigil event in Helena. We urge you to put it to maximum possible use by printing and distributing it, posting it in suitable locations, and forwarding it to friends for them to do the same. Let’s go, folks – this is it!

    Shut Down to Come Make History in Helena

    Montanans for Responsible Legislation has suggested that all dispensaries and caregiver offices should shut down temporarily, all day next Friday, March 11, and instead organize carpools of patients and staff to come to the Helena hearing and vigil.

    It’s a good idea! The future of your rights as a patient are at stake, and this is our most important moment to make a positive presence and to infect the capitol building with the determined spirit of our high-minded purpose and principles.

    MRL is helping to organize and track bus rides for patients in various locations. For the latest info on this, check here: http://www.facebook.com/notes/doug-chyatte/buses-to-helena/137267929671600

    Email Senate Committee to Oppose Repeal

    Please take a moment today to use the “one-click” site that allows you to simultaneously send an email to all members of the Senate Judiciary Committee, who will consider the repeal bill late next week. Urge them to “vote no” on repeal, and to “fix” our medical marijuana law instead.

    The link below offers a series of different boilerplate emails specific to HB 161, the repeal bill. Each allows you to edit and add to the boilerplate in any way you wish. Please personalize your message in some way – and be polite!


    Science of Cannabis

    If you missed it on TV, you can watch it online – an outstanding new short documentary, part of it filmed with Montana patients and with Irv Rosenfeld when he visited Helena last October. “Clearing the Smoke: Science of Cannabis,” a Montana PBS film, is available here:

    True Joke

    A CEO, a Tea Party leader, and a public employee union member walk into a bakery. They sit at a table and order a dozen cookies. The CEO takes 11 of them, then looks at the Tea Party leader and says, "that guy's trying to take some of your cookie."

    Donate to Help Protect Patients’ Rights

    Our opponents have just spent a reported $20,000 on deceit-ridden TV ads. Meanwhile, our coffers to help provide low-income patient housing in Helena, pay for copying costs and do all the other things essential to defending patients’ rights are running dry.

    Please donate to the cause if at all possible – and there’s a fully tax-deductible way to do it. While Patients & Families United is donating its lobbying skills and services to the effort, all our public education and non-direct-lobbying costs are being covered by Citizens for Responsible Crime Policy (CRCP). You can receive a tax deduction by contributing to CRCP.

    For “snail-mail” donations
    Citizens for Responsible Crime Policy
    PO Box 7146
    Missoula MT 59807

    For Internet Donations

    Start here: http://mtcrcp.org/donate/
    Or try this:


    Citizen Lobbying Tools for Reference

    On a daily basis (and at times more frequently), we are posting news links, alerts and updates on the Patients & Families United Facebook page. Other groups involved in the effort to protect medical cannabis patients’ rights are doing the same. Please follow along with unfolding events and advice from all of us as best you can, whether via the PFU site or the sites managed by Montana NORML, MMGA or any of the other leading groups.

    PFU’s Facebook page


    Contacting/Writing to Legislators

    Fax to Legislators
    Faxed letters (fairly short letters!) can be more effective than brief phone messages or emails. Be sure your letter/memo makes clear the name of the legislator you are sending to – and the subject or specific bill number you are writing about.

    Fax to use for sending letters to legislators: (406) 444-4825

    Snail-Mail Address for All Legislators

    [name of legislator]
    Montana [House of Representatives] or [Senate]
    PO Box 200400
    Helena, MT 59620-0400

    Email to legislators
    Webpage from which to send an email message to legislators:

    Phone Messages to Legislators
    Leave a very brief message for up to 5 legislators by calling here:

    Full List of Legislators
    List of legislators and launch to send them an email:

    General Info on Contacting Legislators

    [Founded in early 2007, Patients & Families United works to support Montana’s medical marijuana patients, regardless of their medical condition, and pain patients, whether they use medical marijuana or not. If you don’t want to be on the mailing list for these periodic updates, please email to tell us at [email protected]. Visit our website for background and information of use: www.mtpfu.org. We welcome feedback of any kind, including stiff, honest criticism, but we reserve the right to remove from our mailing lists anyone who makes a habitual practice of sending threatening or irrational “flames.”]

    © 2011 byPatients & Families United

    Patients & Families United
    PO Box 1471
    Helena, MT 59624

    bekindbud Well-Known Member

    Good luck bro, hope all works out for Helena, Montana! You should make a ton of cookies for those shitheads to eat, maybe they will get some common sense after eating them! Idiot politicians!!!



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    Danielsgb Well-Known Member

    Just got this e-mail[​IMG]

    There are at least 7 confirmed federal raids most likely drug task force still trying to stay on top of information as it comes. please report any activity to 510-251-1856 if you're in custody you can also call that number collect. These are federal raids there is no legal protection. the only thing you say to an officer is that you choose to remain silent and talk to an attorney. You need to prepare to be in custody for 72 hours and homes are often raided so be concious of what feds would find in your home. We'll keep giving out information as we hear. Remember to only say you choose to remain silent. If you have an attorney on retainer call them now.

    Great to see.[​IMG] Fucking Nazi's[​IMG]

    Danielsgb Well-Known Member

    I got this today.


    i don't know if you've all been following the news, but our lawmakers just went from bad to worse this week. of course this all started w/ the MT state legislature trying to do something that has never been done in the history of the US, repeal an initiative that was voted in by 62% of Montanans. then, Monday, 2 hours after our legislature tied in a vote on the repeal bill, the federal government sent agents into Montana to bust several large cannabis providers. no one was arrested, but they smashed and took everything these people had. these caregiver's lives are ruined and hundreds of very sick people will be going without their medicine. some patients may even die.


    our government prefers to perform these thuggish acts in the dark. don't let them! call your representatives. even if you're not in Montana, your call will let them know that the American people aren't behind this. tell them what you are seeing and how you feel about it. I've also provided the numbers for Montana legislators. again, even if you're out of state, let them know that you see their bad behavior and you don't approve. they've told me themselves that they're concerned about how they're perceived by the rest of the nation. let them know!


    *if you are a republican, tea party, etc. mention it. we have a very untrue stereotype to overcome and being conservative helps.

    *if you're not in Montana, tell them. let them know the whole country's watching.

    *if you're anti-cannabis, tell them. let them know that they just pissed off a whole new set of voters.

    *for the MT legislature to even attempt to repeal a voter initiative is unconscionable. this is an outrageous subversion of the will of the people. this sets a dangerous precedent in all states. they could then go after anything the voters put in place, from gun rights to the environment.

    *the DEA raids, occurring 2 hours after a tied vote on HB161 (medical cannabis repeal bill) in our state senate were a carefully timed intrusion; a blatant political move to deliberately interfere in state business. it's designed to distract everyone from the fight on the state level, divide and weaken the industry so that it can't fight for it's rights, and send a clear message to Montana and the other states; that our decisions best not displease them, or they'll come in flexing muscle and terrorize your citizens.

    *your tax money just went to pay to destroy the lives and property of legitimate business people that were providing a necessary medicine to sick people. and everybody came to the party, even the EPA and OSHA (wtf?). this wasn't cheap.

    *the medical cannabis industry was thriving, creating jobs and paying taxes in this dismal economy. thanks to the raids, hundreds of people just went on unemployment.

    Google and call your federal senators and congress people in your own state.

    the white house 202-456-1111
    leave messages for president obama and eric holder.
    Attorney General Eric H. Holder, Jr. http://www.usdoj.gov

    Leave a message for up to 5 state legislators 406-444-4800
    Denny Rehberg, Helena office (406) 443-7878
    Jon Tester, Helena office (406) 449-5401


    a patient's story

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    Danielsgb Well-Known Member

    Missoula Police Chief…

    Marijuana and the Democracy Disconnect
    Norm Stamper 34-year veteran police officer who retired as Seattle's chief of police in 2000

    There is always a gap between what a political system stands for and the reality of everyday life under that system. Ours is government that ostensibly stands for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. A government of, by, and for the people. Yet, when it comes to marijuana, democratic principles take a back seat to fear, ignorance, and political expediency.

    Look at New York, Montana, and the federal government for recent examples of how governments ignore or actively subvert the will of the people.

    In his first run for elected office, Mayor Michael Bloomberg admitted to smoking and enjoying marijuana. His exercise of liberty, his pursuit of happiness obviously did nothing to damage his chances for election -- any more than it hurt the presidential candidacies of Bill Clinton (and running mate, Al Gore), George Bush, or Barack Obama.

    Yet now in his third term, Mayor Bloomberg has presided over an astonishing 350,000 low-level marijuana arrests -- more than the combined total of such arrests under the Koch, Dinkins, and Giuliani administrations -- at an estimated cost of $350 million to $700 million. The human and social costs are incalculable. Almost 87 percent of arrestees are African Americans and Latinos, most are young, and most, we can extrapolate, are not wealthy.

    This, despite the fact that the New York Marijuana Reform Act of 1977 decriminalized low-level possession cases.

    In Montana, Missoula police chief Mark Muir is supporting a bill that would repeal that state's Medical Marijuana Act. Nothing wrong with a police chief taking a stand on laws that would, in his view, add to or subtract from public safety. No matter how irrational.

    But there's something terribly wrong with a chief who informs the Montana Senate Judiciary Committee that, "The idea of dispensaries in the state of Montana has got to be something we wash out of our minds."

    If Montana is experiencing problems with a delivery system that provides patients with much-needed medicine, it ought to create a sound regulatory system. But "wash [the idea] out of our minds"?

    Speaking of brainwashing, Gil Kerlikowske, my successor as police chief in Seattle, now the nation's Drug Czar, called me to task in a recent Seattle visit for my suggestion that the Office of National Drug Control Policy is as zealously committed to prosecuting the War on Drugs as the Bush administration was. Kerlikowske took pains to remind me that he ended the drug war two years ago.
    Say what?

    Since Kerlikowske "ended" the drug war, law enforcement agencies continue to pile up record or near-record numbers of marijuana arrests.

    As we, the people, make increasingly clear our intention to see marijuana legalized and regulated along the lines of alcohol, law enforcement comes down harder and harder on nonviolent, low-level offenders.

    There is hope.

    Seattle, whose voters in 2003 made minor marijuana possession cases the city's lowest enforcement priority, is one jurisdiction that gets it. The law is being respected by the local police. Seattle's city attorney, Pete Holmes, won't prosecute such cases. The chair of the city council's public safety committee, Tim Burgess (a former Seattle police officer), joined Holmes and former U. S. Attorney John McCay in Olympia this week to argue for marijuana legalization and regulation.

    And in a completely unexpected editorial, the Seattle Times, which until very recently had argued consistently against marijuana legalization, came out in support of it.

    The people of New York and Montana, and every other city and state in the union, who believe marijuana prohibition should be replaced with regulation must rise up and say no to those mayors, police chiefs, and other officials who insist on undermining the will of the people.

    Oh, and someone needs to tell the drug czar the war ain't over just because he says it is.


    Danielsgb Well-Known Member

    More on Montana:leaf:

    Danielsgb Well-Known Member

    They are just embarrassing.:wall:

    'DUI laws are bad for business': Republican representative (and bar owner) DEFENDS drink driving

    By Fiona Roberts

    It could best be described as a conflict of interest.

    A Republican representative - and bar owner - raised eyebrows in Montana yesterday when he defended drink driving in a passionate speech to the House.
    Alan Hale, a Tea Party supporter, said strict DUI legislation is 'destroying' small businesses in a state where lawmakers have made it their mission to cut high drink-driving rates.


    Passionate speech: Representative Alan Hale told the Montana House strict drink driving laws were 'destroying' small businesses

    The 57-year-old was one of only 12 representatives to vote against a new drink driving bill, which allows the courts to take into account DUI offences from up to 10 years ago.
    In his speech, which was quickly circulated on YouTube by Montana Democrats, he said:'These DUI laws are not doing our small businesses in our state any good at all.

    'They are destroying them. They are destroying a way of life that has been in Montana for years and years.'

    Controversial views: Mr Hale is a former logger and miner who was elected to the House in November

    Mr Hale, a former logger, miner and truck drive, has a vested interest in those small businesses - he and his wife own the Silver Saddle Bar and Cafe in Basin, Montana.
    He said: 'These taverns and bars in these smaller communities connect people together. They are the centre of the communities.

    'I'll guarantee you there's only two ways to get there: either you hitchhike, or you drive, and I promise you they're not going to hitchhike.'
    The house has passed a slew of anti-DUI bills this year as it attempts to crack down on Montana's high drunk-driving rates.
    And the state made headlines in January with an anti-drink driving advert called 'sober friend', which showed a man avoiding DUI by leaving a bar on a horse.
    After some confusion, state lawmakers confirmed it is not illegal to ride a horse while drunk.

    It's not the first time Mr Hale, who is serving his first term as a representative, has spoken out against drink driving laws.
    In the run-up to the November elections he told local newspaper the Helena Independent he believed some DUI penalties were too harsh.

    He said: 'They arrest people day in and day out, and it hasn’t done any good, but it has ruined a lot of young people’s lives.

    'If you get a DUI you can’t get a CDL (commercial driver’s license) and you’re left out in the cold.
    'I’m not sure what needs to be done, but we need to look at a whole lot of alternatives to try to straighten it out.'
    Mr Hale, who has five children and 12 grandchildren, appeared at a Tea Party rally earlier this month where supporters were encouraged to bring their guns to focus attention on the right to bear arms.
    He described them as his 'family', and said: 'I would like to see this crowd a whole lot larger.
    'I hope I can continue to do the right things and vote the way I should.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wner-DEFENDS-drink-driving.html#ixzz1IFC5gkVk

    Danielsgb Well-Known Member

    Senate passes bill to repeal medical marijuana law

    CHARLES S. JOHNSON Gazette State Bureau The Billings Gazette |
    HELENA -- The Senate voted 29-21 on Thursday to repeal Montana's medical marijuana law after an emotion-charged debate marked by angry political finger pointing by senators from both sides.
    After debating for more than an hour, the Senate finally gave preliminary approval to House Bill 161, by Speaker Mike Milburn, R-Cascade, to repeal the state's controversial medical marijuana law on July 1. The Senate will take a final vote on the bill Friday.
    Earlier Thursday, the Senate voted 36-14 to send SB423, which would repeal and overhaul the medical marijuana law, to the House floor after it stalled in Senate Wednesday. Because it missed a key deadline, SB423 now will take a two-thirds majority vote in the House to suspend the bill.
    Milburn said he will ask the House GOP majority to suspend the rules and take up SB423 as a second option to the repeal bill he prefers.
    During the debate on HB161, Sen. Rowlie Hutton, R-Havre, said he has been asked as a pastor to participate in interventions for people addicted to marijuana. He called for making medical marijuana illegal again.
    "This is completely out of control up and down the Hi-Line," Hutton said, adding: "Sometimes the most compassionate answer you can give is no, you don't need this."
    But Sen. Ron Erickson, D-Missoula, urged senators to re-read all the emails they've been receiving from Montanans on the issue.
    "Over and over and over, people were in terrible shape in their lives until 2005, 2006, 2009, 2010, whenever they began to use medical marijuana," he said. "What they are begging us is to be allowed to live because this herb has helped them."
    Sen. Art Wittich, R-Bozeman, who said he was a cancer survivor, said Montana's medical marijuana system is out of control, with nearly 30,000 cardholders, marijuana growers and caregivers.
    "There are a lot of people using medicine, Sen. Erickson, but there are also a lot of people smoking pot," Wittich said.
    Soon, however, the debate boiled over to what happened on the Senate floor Wednesday.
    Republicans said Democrats left them with no choice but to vote for repeal after refusing to give the GOP majority the votes it needed for a two-thirds majority to suspend the rules to vote on SB423.
    Democrats tried to broker a deal Wednesday to provide Republicans with enough votes in exchange for GOP votes for a $97.8 million bonding bill that also takes a two-thirds majority. Republicans, however, refused and criticized the Democrats' effort.
    Sen. Taylor Brown, R-Huntley, chided Democrats for blocking the rules waiver Wednesday.
    "I've heard said here tonight that we shouldn't play games," Brown said. "Well, I would like to know what happened yesterday if that wasn't games that were played yesterday."
    Sen. Jim Keane, D-Butte, fired back, calling this the "by far the worst session" he's experienced in the minority. He talked about Democrats' failed efforts to get a deal Wednesday.
    "What I figured out yesterday and what this caucus figured out yesterday is what we're going to get that the rest of this session," Keane said. "You can continue to do it to us, but some time on these important issues, we do need to talk. It's not happening. ... And we're going to continue to vote no until someone starts talking to us around here sometime."
    Sen. Dave Wanzenried, D-Missoula, took offense to comments characterizing medical marijuana users as people running with the wrong crowd.
    "How dare you say that," he shouted. "For people that have MS, Lou Gehrig's diseases and a whole host of other maladies that have chosen not to be addicted to narcotics, that the wrong crowd? But no, we have a pharmaceutical industry that can market that. We said that's OK."
    Sen. Chas Vincent, R-Libby, who previously opposed the repeal bill and helped write the repeal-and-overhaul bill, said he felt compelled to vote for the repeal after what happened Wednesday.
    He talked about drug abuse in schools and contended that organized crime is involved in medical marijuana here.
    "I have no choice," he said. "I did all that I could. I'd encourage everyone in my caucus and the few of you that are not satisfied with the status quo to give (HB161) the green light."
    Sen. Kim Gillan, D-Billings, said a bipartisan interim legislative committee did a comprehensive study on medical marijuana and agreed on a major bill that has been bottled up in a House committee in favor of the repeal bill.
    "That's why we're here today, because politics played a role," she said.
    Then Gillan added she was tired of being lectured about drug abuse in schools and said she hopes legislators will concentrate on other needs in schools, a reference to school funding and her anti-bullying bill.
    "So spare me the lectures," she said. "I don't need them."

    Danielsgb Well-Known Member

    Can hypocrisy know no end?
    Medical Marijuana to be Grown in White House Garden this Year

    Posted on February 05, 2011. Tags: gardening, marijuana, medical marijuana, obama, pot, white house
    Posted by P. Beckert
    WASHINGTON, D.C. – It is the first week of February, and for Michelle Obama, this means it is time to start planning the White House organic garden. While the garden will again contain a variety of fruits and vegetables as well as a few ornamental flowers, a new addition is sure to create the most controversy ever.
    (Read more about the Medical Marijuana debate here.)
    The White House organic garden will include several varieties of medical marijuana. The District of Columbia, like many states, has enacted medical marijuana laws allowing the cultivation of marijuana for medical purposes. A special gardener with a marijuana growing license has been appointed to oversee this particular plot of the garden.
    Tommy Chong, no relation to Tommy Chong of Cheech and Chong fame, is a Japanese gardener who is well versed in the various types of cannabis and their medicinal properties. Marijuana will comprise only a small part of the “medicinal herb” portion of the White House garden this year, which will also include various sage plants, lemon verbena, St. Johnswort, Valerian, Feverfew, Eyebright, and others.
    A spokesperson for the garden project claims that this will be a first for the White House. “Marijuana has gotten a bad rap for decades,” said Mary Bridges, no relation to Jeff Bridges, notorious for his vocal backing of the legalization of marijuana. “Cultivating medical marijuana in the White House garden will send a clear message to America that this administration will do whatever it takes, including growing Maui Waui, (a particularly potent Hawaiian variety of the plant) to assure better health for our citizens.”
    Asked if this means that the medical marijuana grown in the White House garden will be distributed and sold to local dispensaries in the area, Ms. Bridges replied “Oh heavens no. While growing medical marijuana is allowed, we have not yet approved the opening of any dispensaries in our area.
    Anticipating the next question, Ms. Bridges explained “No, the Obamas are in excellent health and will not be using the marijuana themselves for any health issues.”

    Danielsgb Well-Known Member

    I had to add this from a site I love. I am truly sad and embarrassed from this. Just know most of us are sane.:weed:

    Highlights From Lowlifes: Montana’s 62nd Legislature

    [​IMG]This legislative session it seems Montana is ALWAYS in the news. We’ve made “The Colbert Report”, “Anderson Cooper 360″, Huffington Post, New York Times, CNN, and according to Speaker Milburn, he was interviewed by the Swedish World Federation Against Drugs on a radio show. We have yet to confirm this interview’s existence with anyone other than Speaker Milburn, but he assures us that it exists, and naturally, we believe him. After all, he is the one who informed us that Montana is now known as a “source country, just like Columbia” because of our massive marijuana exports. Although the session isn’t quite over, as leadership needed a vacation, here are a few highlights from Montana’s 62nd Legislative session.

    1. ‎”I’m going to ask that we take a minute here and reflect upon our own hypocrisy.” Rep. Rob Cook R-Conrad. INDEED.
    2. “If Jesus Christ himself were here today he would be an opponent of this bill,” Harris Himes speaking against a bill to abolish the death penalty. Yes, Rev. Himes, if you were in the chair, he may indeed approve.
    3. “It’s poison, a kind of poison, it’s kind of like taking arsenic with Valium in it – it will make you feel good until it kills you. That’s the truth.” Rep. David Howard (R-Park City) speaking about medical marijuana. And we all know marijuana kills…. how many people annually? That’s right Rep. Howard, ZERO.
    4. “It is God himself who said homosexuality is an abomination and he has various punishments for it….. they will surely be put to death”. Rev. Harris Hines in testimony supporting discrimination of gays. Again, that death thing.
    5. “The most important reason to repealing medical marijuana is that marijuana and its usage is offensive to God” Rev. Harris Himes. Himes may want to check out Genesis 1:29
    6. “He (Dr. Carlton Turner) told us he’d take almost any of the other drugs- crank, heroin, methamphetamines under clinical conditions- but he wouldn’t take marijuana. Every time they’d done a human test on it, it scared him half to death.”— Rep David Howard admits FEAR motivates him to lie?
    7. I’ll never have my brother back, we need to save others people’s brothers.— Rep James Knox, fighting tears as he pimped his brother for marijuana repeal while inadvertently advocating nanny state government.
    8. “My birth mom told me had abortion been legal, I wouldn’t have been calling her.” Rep James Knox testifying on house floor on an abortion bill, making a great case for post natal abortion.
    9. Open Cow, Open Woman, Rep Regier compares women to cows. This one defies all explanation.
    10. “There’s new ways to kill you know, in prisons, they take little pieces of paper. They take their blood, their saliva and do blow darts on the guards, there are new and unique ways to kill.” —Rep Janna Taylor. I’m not sure what Taylor is getting at here.
    11. “I also voted no on this bill, the body should know that the people who run ponzi schemes, they don’t have any money of their own…. I couldn’t imagine standing in front of my constituents in Park City, where none of them make more than $35,000/yr to say we’re gonna come up with a scheme to get back up to 25,000 of what people have lost investing…….” –Rep. Dave Howard who thinks his constituency is poor.
    12. Two wrongs don’t make a right- Sen. Verdell Jackson referring to victims of rape and incest. While I’m not a fan of abortion, I wonder if Sen. Jackson would feel differently if he had been raped.
    13. ‎”The only way I’d be supportive of that (Dept. of Ag regulating medical marijuana) is if they treated marijuana as a noxious weed.” –Sen. John Brenden (R-Scobey). I grew up in this senate district and I can tell you, nobody up there gives a damn about medical marijuana. Brenden is a bit noxious himself.
    14. “Across the street from the church was a bevy of good-looking young ladies going in and out of this place……they were growing marijuana across the street…. I didn’t know such good-looking women were interested in horticultural prospects”– Rev. Harris Himes. Where do we find these guys? Himes is made for mockery!
    15. “I got a medical marijuana business who moved in next door to me and it’s been craziness ever since. You see ‘em them behind their shop, behind the commercial building, they got their arms outstretched, they’re trying to fly. I find people sleeping in my vehicles in front of my business. A month and a half ago they buried a van.”– Austin Kaufman, Billings.
    16. Rep Ken Peterson: If women would make better choices they wouldn’t get cervical and breast cancer. So defund family planning already.
    17. If you act gay in public, Rep Ken Peterson wants your felon ass in jail for a decade. Ten years in prison will teach you how to be straight, right?
    18. Steve Zabawa in SB 423 hearing: “Marijuana is illegal! The state of Montana is gonna get arrested!” Zabawa is no stranger to illegal activity, he does sell cars for a living. He also hires most of his employees from the Alpha House, a halfway house for men returning to society after being imprisoned for major crimes. Several of his current sales and management staff are felons, actually. A couple of them defrauded the federal government by filing false FEMA claims after Hurricane Katrina. After serving time, Zabawa hired them back!
    19. Sen. Ed Walker saying, “I don’t believe it can be reformed. It needs to be repealed. There are times the voters get it wrong, and that is what happened in 2004.” I wonder if we may have also got it wrong in 201o when you were elected, Ed. Just sayin’.
    20. “Montana is now considered a “source country”, same as Columbia.“- Speaker Mike Milburn (R-Cascade) I wonder why anyone would bury a van filled with marijuana if that is the case. So many questions.
    21. “Sometimes the most compassionate answer you can give is no you don’t need this,” Senator Rowlie Hutton (R-Havre) said. ”When you love someone you are willing to do an intervention. I love this state, and it’s time we do an intervention,” concluded Hutton, who wants to take away medicine from the ill. Compassionate indeed.
    22. “The people who use medical marijuana for legitimate uses, they’ve been had. I think they probably feel like the dog who gets in the car and as they’re driving they realize they are going to the vet instead of the park. They got in with the wrong crowd,” testified Sen. Edward Walker (R-Billings). The wrong crowd, Sen. Walker, spends time with you and your buddies at that creepy temple under the rims.
    23. Tough DUI laws “are destroying a way of life that has been in Montana for years and years,” said Rep. Hale. But medical cannabis is WAY too dangerous.
    24. “Homosexuals can’t go out into the heterosexual community and try to recruit people, or try to enlist them in homosexual acts,” Peterson says. He provides an example: “‘Here, young man, your hormones are raging. Let’s go in this bedroom, and we’ll engage in some homosexual acts. You’ll find you like it.’” Peterson hasn’t actually seen this happen, he says, because “I don’t associate with that group of people at all… I’ve associated with mainstream people all my life.” Again, those mainstream people hang out at the LDS temple in west Billings.
    25. And then we have this beauty. You be the judge.
    Special thanks to Hiedi Handford of Montana Connect Magazine for editing and uploading the 300+ testimony videos. Other legislative testimony can be viewed on her YouTube channel here.

    KlosetKing Well-Known Member

    I love this state with all my heart, but you just gave us all a wonderful list full of the reasons why im contemplating leaving. The majestic mountains and wonderful fishing just isnt enough to deal with the religious nutbags that are running this great state. I give Schweitzer credit for veto'n a SHITLOAD of stuff, but even that only goes so far when more than 2/3rds of both your house and senate are acting like christian extremists.

    Danielsgb Well-Known Member


    Governor Schweitzer has vetoed HB161, the medical cannabis repeal bill, but our work is far from over.
    SB423 is a repeal bill in sheep’s clothing, and we need to act fast to ensure that this bill is not made into law.
    Rather than infringing upon the rights of patients though the passage of SB423, our community must urge the Governor to veto SB423, and champion patient rights by ensuring
    the legislature that he will create fair and reasonable regulations through administrative channels.
    Join us to protest the passage of SB423 to ensure patient rights are upheld!
    Who: Montana Medical Cannabis Community
    What: Rally Against SB423
    When: Saturday, April 23, 2011 starting at 12p
    Where: Outside the Governor’s Office near the north steps.
    1301 East 6th Ave., Helena, Montana 59601
    Questions, Comments, Concerns? [email protected] or call 240 393 5504

    Danielsgb Well-Known Member

    I got this e-mail today.:cuss:

    From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
    Subject: News/Update from PATIENTS & FAMILIES UNITED
    Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 5:15 PM

    [Because we continually update our e-mailing list, this may be your first edition of our periodic news/update about medical marijuana and pain-treatment issues in Montana. By Tom Daubert, founder/director/lobbyist for Patients & Families United.]

    · ALERT: Key House & Senate Votes Expected Tomorrow
    · Urge House & Senate NO Votes on SB 423 Conference Committee Report
    · Next Steps…

    Key House & Senate Votes Expected Tomorrow, 4/20

    In an irony as laden with sadness as SB 423 is with arbitrary and deliberately unworkable and punishing provisions, tomorrow, April 20, will likely be the day on which both the House and Senate vote on a “free conference committee” report that legislators completed just moments ago.

    The SB 423 conference committee report puts “the finishing touches” on a bill we call “repeal in disguise” – and that others have called “the black market bill” – a bill literally intended to “get as close to repeal as possible.” Well, mission accomplished.

    SB 423 would stick Montana with the very worst “medical marijuana” law in the country. It is filled with arbitrary and extreme requirements intended to make it virtually impossible for patients with chronic pain to become legal – and to make it extremely unlikely that any approved patient will have reasonably reliable and consistent access to medical-grade cannabis. Any physician making more than 15 recommendations within a year gets investigated, and pays for all the investigations. Chronic pain patients need two different physicians to do a complete exam unless they have “proof” of the “etiology” of their pain. Probationers are banned from eligibility, no matter how dire their medical need for cannabis. Federal medical privacy rights go out the window as local law enforcement is notified of every patient’s status. No one can grow for more than three patients, and people can’t grow cooperatively or efficiently at shared locations. You grow either for infused (non-smokeable) products only, or for “bud” – not both. All growing and production must be “free.” You can never possess more than four “mature, flowering” plants and up to 12 “seedlings” (no taller than 12 inches, after which they magically become “mature and flowering”), nor more than one ounce of cannabis. Labs for quality control are essentially banned.

    SB 423 is literally designed to fail patients – not to work as voters intended.

    (By the time floor votes on the conference committee report are held, a copy of the new bill should be available via the Legislature’s webpage. The conference committee adopted more than 160 amendments over the last several days.)

    Urge House & Senate Members to Vote NO on SB 423

    A recent poll by Mason-Dixon found that 87% of Montana voters want either no change or regulatory reform of the medical marijuana law. Montana voters DON’T want “repeal in disguise.”

    And, while most agree that the law needs to be “fixed,” legislators SHOULD NOT accept SB 423’s punishing provisions simply because legislative leaders have not allowed alternatives to survive.

    Please take a moment to send your own email to all members of both the House and Senate. You can copy and paste your personal message, which will be delivered to all 150 legislators, here:


    Next Steps…

    If the conference committee report passes both the House and Senate, the bill will then go to the Governor for consideration. If his office formally receives it while the Legislature is still in session, one of his options will be to issue an “amendatory veto,” in which he could propose changes to SB 423 in a “take it or leave it” move. But if the Legislature has shut down by the time the bill gets to the Governor’s office, then his only choices would be to veto or accept the bill (with or without his actual signature).

    It’s not too early to urge the Governor to Veto SB 423 unless he is willing and able to transform it into regulation that will actually work for legitimate patients.

    Here’s a site from which you can easily send your message to Governor Schweitzer:


    [Founded in early 2007, Patients & Families United works to support Montana’s medical marijuana patients, regardless of their medical condition, and pain patients, whether they use medical marijuana or not. If you don’t want to be on the mailing list for these periodic updates, please email to tell us at [email protected]. Visit our website for background and information of use: www.mtpfu.org. We welcome feedback of any kind, including stiff, honest criticism, but we reserve the right to remove from our mailing lists anyone who makes a habitual practice of sending threatening or irrational “flames.”]

    © 2011 byPatients & Families United

    Patients & Families United
    PO Box 1471
    Helena, MT 59624

    Danielsgb Well-Known Member


    Our community is still under attack, even though Governor Schweitzer
    vetoed HB161, the medical cannabis repeal bill. SB423 is a repeal bill in
    regulatory clothing. Governor Schweitzer may be supportive of the medical
    cannabis community, but we must urge him to veto SB423, a bad, harmful
    bill. Our community depends on Governor Schweitzer to champion patient
    rights by establishing fair and reasonable regulations through administrative
    Help show the Governor that we support his veto of SB423. Join local patients,
    caregivers, industry partners and concerned community members for
    a rally to ensure patient rights are upheld!

    Who: Montana Medical Cannabis Community
    What: Rally Against SB423
    When: Saturday, April 30, 2011 starting at Noon
    Where: North Steps of the Capitol, near 1301 East 6th Ave., Helena 59601
    Questions, Comments, Concerns?
    Email [email protected] or call 240 393 5504.

    I'm going on Sat.

    Danielsgb Well-Known Member


    HELENA -- Gov. Brian Schweitzer said Friday he will hold his nose and let the medical marijuana law passed by the 2011 Legislature take law without his signature.
    At a press conference late Friday afternoon, he was critical of Senate Bill 423, which the Legislature approved on its last day Thursday.
    "Can I veto this bill and allow the Wild West to go on for two more years?" he said of the current medical marijuana situation.
    So instead, he said, "I will hold my nose and allow this to become law."
    Schweitzer said he would be surprised if the issue isn't on the ballot again. He said repeal advocates may make another attempt to qualify an initiative, while medical marijuana advocates may try get their own initiative on the ballot.


    KlosetKing Well-Known Member

    Maybe Jason Christ can help out. Not that he hasnt had his hand in just about every problem they are claiming has arised since '04, at least he stays active. He's holding a meeting on Thursday with an attorney on Thursday to discuss anything that can be done to 'stop it in its tracks'.


    Danielsgb Well-Known Member

    That guy is a piece of shit. He did a ton of damage for us.

    KlosetKing Well-Known Member

    As i said in the post, I agree, and I realize that. But he at least has money and connections. I wont bite his hand if he pulls some miracle and stops SB 423 within a reasonable amount of time.

    Granted, that would be by my definition, a miracle.

    Danielsgb Well-Known Member

    He won't pull off anything, He didn't even pay employees. He didn't fund lawyers, or pay for lobbyists. He is a stain for this movement. Did he really think those traveling circus tele-clinics wouldn't fire up LEO or mothers. Are you fucking kidding, he thought hack sac playing teens is an acceptable view of medical settings. I hear he is going to AZ to set up grow equipment. I hope he stays there.
    His damage will take thousands of people to collect the 120,000 signatures.

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