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Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
It would help your case if you knew what a general contractor actually was.

In Buck's case, most of the time he is the Project Manager. Home Owners contact him for his services to build/renovate new decks. Home owners don't typically hire someone to hire someone to build their decks unless they're stupid, have more money than they know what to do with, or both.

General Contractors are in most cases hired by corporations for large scale projects or wealthy owners for complete renovations/additions or new construction on a large scale. More times than not, as an individual, you never want to be a GC. The insurance, liabilities and responsibilities are so high that unless it's a HUGE contract it's simply not worth it.

I've never seen anybody hire a general contractor to build a deck. Very few ever contract a GC for a single home either, even a large one. They hire project managers.

In Buck's case, he's a Project Manager and Owner/Operator. He's not a GC. He never claimed to be and I'll go ahead and bet a million dollars I don't have that he doesn't want to be.

But do continue talking loudly about things you know nothing about.
Typically here a project manager works for the general contractor managing a project. Now your dealing with semantics. General contractors, here anyways, can be big or small, they just have a subset of trades that work for them. The big contractors generally have project managers and small contractors are the project manager lol...... Again who really gives a fuck who does what. He builds houses that’s what counts and all that should count.
 

TacoMac

Well-Known Member
Typically here a project manager works for the general contractor managing a project. Now your dealing with semantics.
*sigh*

First off, "you're".

Secondly, a project manager doesn't have to be licensed. Why do you think all those "home workover" and "home rebuild" and all those shows don't involve general contractors, but rather project managers?

General Contractors are like lawyers, doctors, pharmacist, etc. They are licensed by the state, have to take certification exams, have to carry very expensive insurance, etc.

Project managers don't. (There is presently a movement and pending legislation to change that, but at this point there is no requirement.)

So long as a project manager you hire certified people to do work requiring a certification (HVAC, Electrical, etc.) and have it inspected by the State/County building inspector and of course have the required permits for the work you're doing, then you don't need to hire a general contractor, you can hire a project manager.

The price difference is astronomical, and legally from the standpoint of building a house or deck, in most states you are not required to hire a general contractor, a project manager will do.

In the most layman of examples: I worked for Holder Engineering back in the late '90's. Holder was the GC of Gwinnett Arena, a 90 million dollar project.

Most general contractors wont touch a job that isn't worth multiple millions of dollars because they typically charge by percentage of the project.

So if you're building a 30,000 dollar deck, no GC is ever going to touch it. His insurance for the job would cost more than the 3 to 6 thousand dollar fee he would charge you.

Even on most homes, the fee isn't worth the risks.

Bob Villa even discourages hiring a GC for home construction because of the outrageous costs involved for what is in the grand scheme of things a small project. He has an entire section dedicated to how to do it all yourself and hire at most a project manager to oversee the project.
 

Dongage

Active Member
*sigh*

First off, "you're".

Secondly, a project manager doesn't have to be licensed. Why do you think all those "home workover" and "home rebuild" and all those shows don't involve general contractors, but rather project managers?

General Contractors are like lawyers, doctors, pharmacist, etc. They are licensed by the state, have to take certification exams, have to carry very expensive insurance, etc.

Project managers don't. (There is presently a movement and pending legislation to change that, but at this point there is no requirement.)

So long as a project manager you hire certified people to do work requiring a certification (HVAC, Electrical, etc.) and have it inspected by the State/County building inspector and of course have the required permits for the work you're doing, then you don't need to hire a general contractor, you can hire a project manager.

The price difference is astronomical, and legally from the standpoint of building a house or deck, in most states you are not required to hire a general contractor, a project manager will do.

In the most layman of examples: I worked for Holder Engineering back in the late '90's. Holder was the GC of Gwinnett Arena, a 90 million dollar project.

Most general contractors wont touch a job that isn't worth multiple millions of dollars because they typically charge by percentage of the project.

So if you're building a 30,000 dollar deck, no GC is ever going to touch it. His insurance for the job would cost more than the 3 to 6 thousand dollar fee he would charge you.

Even on most homes, the fee isn't worth the risks.


Bob Villa even discourages hiring a GC for home construction because of the outrageous costs involved for what is in the grand scheme of things a small project. He has an entire section dedicated to how to do it all yourself and hire at most a project manager to oversee the project.
It's Bob Vila, not Villa. Taking advice from Bob Vila is idiotic. Do you also take advice from Bob the builder?

 

FunkeyMunkey

Well-Known Member
A lot of you have bucks dick so far in your mouths it’s funny hahaha how many people need to come take up for their leader?? You don’t go from cleaning decks to building houses in just a few weeks. Sorry. Just not happening. Lol
 

TacoMac

Well-Known Member
A lot of you have bucks dick so far in your mouths it’s funny hahaha
It's not that. It's that you're stupid and have no idea what you're talking about.

But it's OK. We understand you're stupid and can't help it. We can overlook that.

how many people need to come take up for their leader??
I'm not "taking up for him". I don't have to. He's more than capable of handling himself. I'm simply pointing out how you are stupid, have no idea what you're talking about, and have it all wrong.

I've had far, far more arguments with Buck than you can shake a stick at. I don't play favorites. I call it like I see it without regard to who you are.

You don’t go from cleaning decks to building houses in just a few weeks. Sorry. Just not happening. Lol
Really? Odd. I don't recall him talking about "cleaning" decks. Building them, yes. Renovating them, yes. Pressure washing them? Ummmm...no. Don't recall seeing that ever mentioned.

How about post a link to where he was doing that just a few weeks ago.

I know you wont because you're stupid and are once again making shit up.
 

FunkeyMunkey

Well-Known Member
The cleaning is a joke saying he doesn’t actually build them either.

He just posted a picture of a deck he finished like last week I’m sure I can find it if you really really want me to.

Again you taking up for him is comical lol can’t let anyone talk bad about your fearless leader
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
*sigh*

First off, "you're".

Secondly, a project manager doesn't have to be licensed. Why do you think all those "home workover" and "home rebuild" and all those shows don't involve general contractors, but rather project managers?

General Contractors are like lawyers, doctors, pharmacist, etc. They are licensed by the state, have to take certification exams, have to carry very expensive insurance, etc.

Project managers don't. (There is presently a movement and pending legislation to change that, but at this point there is no requirement.)

So long as a project manager you hire certified people to do work requiring a certification (HVAC, Electrical, etc.) and have it inspected by the State/County building inspector and of course have the required permits for the work you're doing, then you don't need to hire a general contractor, you can hire a project manager.

The price difference is astronomical, and legally from the standpoint of building a house or deck, in most states you are not required to hire a general contractor, a project manager will do.

In the most layman of examples: I worked for Holder Engineering back in the late '90's. Holder was the GC of Gwinnett Arena, a 90 million dollar project.

Most general contractors wont touch a job that isn't worth multiple millions of dollars because they typically charge by percentage of the project.

So if you're building a 30,000 dollar deck, no GC is ever going to touch it. His insurance for the job would cost more than the 3 to 6 thousand dollar fee he would charge you.

Even on most homes, the fee isn't worth the risks.

Bob Villa even discourages hiring a GC for home construction because of the outrageous costs involved for what is in the grand scheme of things a small project. He has an entire section dedicated to how to do it all yourself and hire at most a project manager to oversee the project.
First off “you’re an idiot”, Bob Villa you say lol. Secondly who the fuck cares as I said, it’s a childish argument filled with semantics, thirdly I said “here”, maybe it’s sifferent “there”, guess you missed that, but yup feel free to point out my spell correct on my phone thanks, and lastly he said nothing of decks, why the decks??? My daughter is a project manager for a 600 million dollar contractor, she’s an p. Eng btw lol. The “general” here is typically the Carpenter, but not always. And he hires the other trades to complete the house. But feel free to call me retarded as you tend to do, it shows your intelligence dork.
Edit: try googling general contractor and get back to me lol
 
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TacoMac

Well-Known Member
The cleaning is a joke
So, you lied. Just like I thought.

He just posted a picture of a deck he finished like last week I’m sure I can find it if you really really want me to.
I'm well aware of it. He built it. He didn't "clean it". Liar.

You do know YOUR leader bucky is a fucking window installer
Never seen him talk about installing windows. Please post a link to where he refers to it.

The rest I'll address once you post the link. But I'm pretty sure you're the same person on a VPN lying just like you did before.
 

Glovelove

Well-Known Member
He used to talk about being head cuck for boulders largest window company all the time , you must be new here or as buck would say,,retarded lol.
What's VPN
Go find the posts yourself,I've spent more time than I care reading back through his shit posting. Just trying to figure out why you all follow his lead day after day like buckpuppets hahahaha.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Who the flying fuck gives a shit about who the general contractor is? Are there not “sub” contractors? Pretty happy I hired a carpenter for my last house I was the general on. Oh, and the electrical contractor came in handy as well. Mason did a great job on the bricks too. By trying to prove some ridicules point you have only proved your immaturity. You guys really need to grow the fuck up.
I’m a subcontractor

I was one when I led crews installing windows, and when I worked my way up to be lead builder doing deck builds (some might say project manager but we always just said lead)

I’m just a carpenter now, learning how to frame custom homes, but that’s at least better than laborer. Or unemployable retarded racist, like @funkey monkey or @Glovelove or @Dongage
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
He used to talk about being head cuck for boulders largest window company all the time , you must be new here or as buck would say,,retarded lol.
What's VPN
Go find the posts yourself,I've spent more time than I care reading back through his shit posting. Just trying to figure out why you all follow his lead day after day like buckpuppets hahahaha.
I haven’t done windows since long before you started your sock puppet account. Way to give yourself away, retard

@rollitup should just ban all these bitter racist socks
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Mommy please make all the mean people that dont agree with me go away,you're a bitch.
Ain't too hard to search the site and use the word sock with your name lol. Seems you like to use alot of words that rhyme with cock.
Show us a picture of your toolbelt and your boots or it's all a tall tale deck boy.
Why did you get banned last time?

You’re an uneducated racist white who is such a bitter loser you made a sock puppet to come back and be bitter at me
 

Justin-case

Well-Known Member
Mommy please make all the mean people that dont agree with me go away,you're a bitch.
Ain't too hard to search the site and use the word sock with your name lol. Seems you like to use alot of words that rhyme with cock.
Show us a picture of your toolbelt and your boots or it's all a tall tale deck boy.
Why? You wouldn't know what an astragal trim was if was shoved up you astragal.

You would probably like to see his tax returns too, lulz.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
LOL he’s still triggered 3 years later because I threw trash away where it belongs

Poor bitter crybaby sock
 

Glovelove

Well-Known Member
Why? You wouldn't know what an astragal trim was if was shoved up you astragal.

You would probably like to see his tax returns too, lulz.
*your*
Is this a buck sock or bucktrooper?
Let the little guy fight his own battles. I dont recall anyone calling for bitchboy sock #5 haha.
 

Justin-case

Well-Known Member
You posted pics of it like a complete idiot all proud of yourself. Were you at the Hillary acceptance speech in the crowd crying when the pedophile came out and told the crowd she's not feeling up to it tonight lmao. You fucks could have flooded Miami with all those years like AOC talks about.its not climate change its cryman change :lol:
You seem upset
 

Glovelove

Well-Known Member
You just have to put him on your ignore list. It works wonders. I didn't even know he was on this thread until you mentioned his name, lol.
I would like to put this whole section on that list. Can you do that,just ignore a whole section of the forum? Tons of great people in the grow threads and lots of info. But damn these guys bump the shit out of these threads 24/7
 
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