Grow Tent, 5ft by 10 ft , how to get biggest yield?

Bonzing said:
oooooh, makes sense, but my budget, to buy equipment is only of 1000$ , hmm

so i gotta get myself, the tent ( 400 ish dollars ) , meaning ill have only like 500 left, for it ... HMMMM , wait a second, DAMMIT , lol light turned off, oh wait i got the box!

ill check see if my 400 watt ballast, can take a 600 watt light, maybe a 1000 too


so you guys think , Sea of green would be best? i would not do a Screen of green since, id be stuck fighting the damn chiken screen all day long
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I prefer the "Sea of Green" with lots of main colas per square foot, and using some kind of vertical stake for support. Keep side shoots to a minimum. Usually use rockwool for root medium. Though there seem to be many new mediums since I had my last show a while back.
 
Bonzing said:
Ebb and flow table huh ?

now would this even be possible, for a 132 plants system?! O.O ?

ebb and floor table, is'nt that the round white tubes, with a series of holes , each 1 ft?
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That is aeroponics your thinking of. This is a table that floods with your nutrient soulution a few times a day to feed the plants. Table floods via a pump on a timer going from resevoir to table. There is also a fitting that acts as a drain in the table, and drains back into the rez.
 
hmm , so exactly what is a Sea of green ?

i know how to get multiple colas off 1 plant,and ive readed of a ScroG , but dunno about sea of green

and ill check into the ebb , what about hydroton ? ( clay pellets )
 
Hydroton is a commonly used medium in ebb and flow. Sea of green is growing 4 plants per sq ft with little or no veg time. This will give you multiple small to medium sized single cola plants. Some added benefits of this are no popcorn nugs, just solid colas...and they are easy to trim in comparison to a regular plant.
 
ooooh ok , so really, id have a floor, with 4 sides, have a pump shoot water into the floor, and i would have, my plants in a hydroton pot , sitting on the floor, and the nutes would just rise up and the hydroton would absorb it, then after a little while, id then drain the nutes back into reservoir ?
 
Bonzing said:
Ebb and flow table huh ?

now would this even be possible, for a 132 plants system?! O.O ?

ebb and floor table, is'nt that the round white tubes, with a series of holes , each 1 ft?
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I had flat 4x8 hydro tables, open top, and put slabs of rockwool in, filling the hole table. Had 1 big reservoir, and a smaller reservoir. The big one held the food/water, the smaller caught the drain off.
The pump in the large one would cycle the water/food, then the pump in the smaller res would pump the run-off up and over into the big res.

The tube style you are referring to could still be used as an ebb/flow. Tubes are just a different suspension method. You could still flow water/food to the roots, then let it ebb (drain off to catch res)

You could also go with an aeroponics setup with the tubes, but from what I have seen and heard, it can be a little overwhelming, and touchy if you're not careful. Things can go super awesome, till they go horribly wrong overnight. Not a suggested noob growing style.

With a small tent set up like yours, I would just use a table with rockwool and hand water if you are home most of the time. Put a res out side the tent if you have space. Manually feed the plants.

If you might not be home all the time for "dinner", then I would go with a table with rockwool (or similar) and a nice, basic ebb/flow system run on timers.....again with a large res outside of the room. (water res in a tight warm room can cause a lot of humidity, and can cause the water to get too hot)

As I always state, this is what I would do if I was in your situation. Others may, and many WILL disagree, or have other suggestions.
 
Lots of great advice in here for you man. Do some reading up on the things you learned about in here, maybe even check out some sea of green grow logs. Good luck on your grow and if you do a journal toss a
link on my visitor page.
 
seems ebb , flow table is good ,
ill have a 5ft by 10ft tent, and ill be home for QUITE a while ( and payed , yay ) so ill manually feed them

what kind of material you use, to make your flood table?
 
ya pistill, and everybody else, thanks alot for the information you threw my way , im sure this will help alot of other people too
 
You could just use 2x4's with OSB plywood on the bottom. Drape some heavy mill plastic down. Carefully cut a hole for your drain. Seal it with water proof whatever is non toxic, then seeing it's only gonna be max 5 ' wide, you could just use a bathtub plug while you water, then after you have finished playing with them...you know you're going to.....and after you stare at them for a while ( you know this too...lol) , pull the plug and let it drain.

Very simple, very reliable.

I personally prefer rockwool myself for a medium. It is excellent at providing oxygen to the roots, and when you feed the plants, then drain, the water draining from the rockwool actually draws oxygen down into it. But it can be expensive, as it has to be discarded at the end of the grow. You can't recycle it like some other mediums. The roots will be all intertwined in it.

I would research a good root medium. Of all the things I find in my experience to be most important, it is the root system. It calves, your plants calve, plain and simple. They are like your nervous system and stomach combined together....very important.

An air bubbler in your res works well to keep the water from staling up by keeping it oxygenated. Also advised....or use Hydrogen Peroxide...in proper doses to boost O2 levels in the water. Your roots will love you for it. :weed:


Sorry for rambling....super stoned.:mrgreen::eyesmoke:
 
keep rambling bro , im here storing it all in my head!! :P lolol ya ill go with rockwoll

and ya ill play and stare with them :>
 
Bonzing said:
keep rambling bro , im here storing it all in my head!! :P lolol ya ill go with rockwoll

and ya ill play and stare with them :>
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Again, I encourage you to keep researching and get other opinions. Pot is so dynamic, almost anything goes if you keep it fed well, well lit, and let her breathe she'll pretty much do the rest for you.

Oh, and I know you'll be staring at them.....if you appreciate the avatar you have, then you will definitely be staring. Awesome. I wish you luck my friend.

I just can't wait to get my shit together so we can raise our kids at the same time ....lol.

Peace.
 
ya i stare at them atleast 7 times a day , and also breath on them for co2 lol , when you see a 6,3'' guy lean over for 15 minutes staring at a plant , lol he seems crazzzyyyy lol

but ya ill also see if more opinions comes in , but what about the plants themselfs, what you guys think i should do , ? like a mass production ( no veg ) any strains would be good for this ?
 
I would suggest an indica "strong" strain. Longer lanky 80%-100% sativa strains would create too many space issues. Which would be major in a cabinet setup like yours.

An indica dominant hybrid would be beneficial for compact, tight "sea of green" one maybe two main cola growing. Generally they have shorter flowering times, and ...... in my opinion, superior stone. (of course the stone being superior is only my opinion as I tend to like being couch locked)
You can get away with a short veg with indica and still have good results.

As far as specific strains....I will let others help you with that. I have been out of the seed and strain world for so long, I can't even keep up with the new hybrids and such. And the amount of variation out there is HUGE. I know I like Juicy Fruit....very hardy, good yield and potent.
I also LOVE Green Crack but it is very hard to find, as a general rule. I have a source, but mailing them to you might be a problem...lol.

But an indica dominant hybrid of some sort would be my choice. Maybe an OG Kush hybrid of some sort.
 
Tents will have some serious trouble holding hoods for 2 x 1000 watters, if you have the $$ Pick up 2x 600w HPS with Cooltubes, light weight and LOTS of light coming from all directions bouncing out of tube off your tent walls to your girls. Plus you can easily vent outside air through the tubes and out of the tent on a separate system than your passive air intake and exhaust system.With 1200w in a 10x5 ANYTHING will thrive be it 4 GIANTS or 20 smaller girls. Go with how ever many plants you feel comfortable growing, If i wasnt a legal caregiver I would be growing 100-200 small plants at a time, much easier to get even light to them and shorter veg time. Now that I have a card I dont go over my limit so I have to try to grow bigger plants =(
 
quietguy420 said:
Tents will have some serious trouble holding hoods for 2 x 1000 watters, if you have the $$ Pick up 2x 600w HPS with Cooltubes, light weight and LOTS of light coming from all directions bouncing out of tube off your tent walls to your girls. Plus you can easily vent outside air through the tubes and out of the tent on a separate system than your passive air intake and exhaust system.With 1200w in a 10x5 ANYTHING will thrive be it 4 GIANTS or 20 smaller girls. Go with how ever many plants you feel comfortable growing, If i wasnt a legal caregiver I would be growing 100-200 small plants at a time, much easier to get even light to them and shorter veg time. Now that I have a card I dont go over my limit so I have to try to grow bigger plants =(
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I tend to agree. 2 1000w in that space will add significant heat and your reflector choice would probably be limited to a horizontal batwing style. You could go with 1 1000w on a light mover, or 2 600w with cool tubes as suggested. (I'd probably do this)

Of course, cool tubes with 2 1000w could work as well, but most likely too tight( light is hard to overdose a plant with, but probably pretty pricy as well 600w with cool tubes is best I think) Whatever you choose, just keep in mind the heat buildup that comes with HID lighting.

There are other options as well such as LED lighting. Pricy, but in the long run, reliable, much longer lasting bulbs, they run much cooler than HID's. Use less energy.

Lots of options out there.
 
Haven't read the thred but the answers easy co2 light movers water cooled 1000w lights optimal yield sea of green I get poundage every 2 weeks with about the same size tent 3k lighting
 
Deerhunter617 said:
Haven't read the thred but the answers easy co2 light movers water cooled 1000w lights optimal yield sea of green I get poundage every 2 weeks with about the same size tent 3k lighting
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Very nice!!....expensive taste....but the dream system. I don't know if the OP could do that right off the bat, but definitely a goal to shoot for, if not.

Got any pics Deerhunter?

My aspirations are the same, just scaled up about 6 times. I just gotta bank some more oil patch hours, then I can start enjoying grass patch hours......lol
 
2 8 inch air cooled magnum xxxls would easily fit in his space, and temp would not be an issue with even basic 8 inch fans.

I used one of those things in a 3x3 closet before with a 1000 watt light and temps were never an issue. If you're really worried about heat just go with the CAN MAX fans. They cool all.
 
ive got a 245 cfm squirrel fan, so im sure thats good enouth and ill pipe it so it does into the attic

so ill use my 400 cmh there, and ill buy a 1000 watt kit, and ill do the ebb and flow table with rockwolll , and alot people here likes kush ,, so everythings perfect


thanks alot and ill let you all know in the up coming 1-2 weeks when everything arrived, ill post pics and all :)
 
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