First Grow

SBBCal

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I believe that soil is similar to happyfrog/ocean forest? If thats true, your overwatering. Which is pulling all the nutrients from that soil faster than normal.
 

Maui7769

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I believe that soil is similar to happyfrog/ocean forest? If thats true, your overwatering. Which is pulling all the nutrients from that soil faster than normal.
I definitely think you may be right about that. I’ll be transplanting them soon and will take up a new watering schedule.
 

Dontjudgeme

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N only or something across the board for all 3?
Plants don’t require as much P and K during veg as they do during flower, but they do require it. Just as plants don’t require as much N during flower, but it’s still necessary. I run 10-4-4 during veg, and 2-16-18 during flower. It also depends on the strain too, and few other reasons. Some strains like higher NPK values than others, it’s all about watching the plant and seeing how it responds to what you feed it. Once you find the sweet spot, document it, and keep a record of the strain for the next grow so you aren’t playing the guessing game. All plants aren’t created equal unfortunately, and you will see that some respond well to things others hate. This is why I don’t like soil with built in NPK, because you can’t take anything away, less control and just have to let the soil take its course. But with soil that low of NPK, you have the luxury to supplement with more of what you don’t have.
 

Maui7769

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Plants don’t require as much P and K during veg as they do during flower, but they do require it. Just as plants don’t require as much N during flower, but it’s still necessary. I run 10-4-4 during veg, and 2-16-18 during flower. It also depends on the strain too, and few other reasons. Some strains like higher NPK values than others, it’s all about watching the plant and seeing how it responds to what you feed it. Once you find the sweet spot, document it, and keep a record of the strain for the next grow so you aren’t playing the guessing game. All plants aren’t created equal unfortunately, and you will see that some respond well to things others hate. This is why I don’t like soil with built in NPK, because you can’t take anything away, less control and just have to let the soil take its course. But with soil that low of NPK, you have the luxury to supplement with more of what you don’t have.
Totally makes sense, thanks for the input. I have a lot of trial and error to experience so this kind of info help tremendously.
 

JoeBlow5823

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I anticipated having to do some low stress training for the height issues and will only be continuing with 2-3 plants after transplant. Other than the mistake of height issues is there any other suggestions you have to point me in the right direction.
The only way to use that tent will be to move the filter/fan outside of the tent. Light will have to be at ceiling. I also recommend high stress training like topping and supercropping.
 

Maui7769

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The only way to use that tent will be to move the filter/fan outside of the tent. Light will have to be at ceiling. I also recommend high stress training like topping and supercropping.
It would be doable to move the fan but I’d need to leave the filter in the tent no?
 

HydroKid239

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Thanks for sending the bat signal @SBBCal lol. I ran a 2x2 with 4 clones in it.. I ran 4 because I was only trying my hand at cloning. more than 1 plant in a 2x2 is asking for problems regarding space. The above advice is on point. Running a 2x2, you want the exhaust fan and carbon filter outside.IMG_5734.JPG

Above is how close my tents are, and below is the fan and filter outside the tent. That tent is A Mars Hydro so it's a little bigger (2.5x2.5x5.2ft)
Even with 5 feet of space, I know my pot will take up 10-12", ant the hanging distance at max height leaves about a foot between the rope ratchets and the light (Hangars in between). If I need more space I will suspend my light from the support poles. Gives me another 6".



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HydroKid239

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I also Use 6500K cfl to keep tight node spacing in early veg. When I tell you that they work magic.... let me show you..

In this 2x2 I have 4x 23W 6500K CFL. No other lighting until I'm ready to transplant. (This was before I bought the Mars tent) These girls are in
the 2x4 tent now under spider farmers.
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Here they are more recent (But not up to date)

Check em out. No stretching, nice tight nodes. IMG_5303.JPGIMG_5548.JPGIMG_5649.JPGIMG_5545.JPG
 
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Maui7769

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I also Use 6500K cfl to keep tight node spacing in early veg. When I tell you that they work magic.... let me show you..

In this 2x2 I have 4x 23W 6500K CFL. No other lighting until I'm ready to transplant. (This was before I bought the Mars tent) These girls are in
the 2x4 tent now under spider farmers.
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Here they are more recent (But not up to date)

Check em out. No stretching, nice tight nodes. View attachment 4735016View attachment 4735017View attachment 4735018View attachment 4735019
Well this will be my next move, big thanks to Hydro Kid and Joe Blow for the insight!
 

Maui7769

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Well I’ve transplanted from the small seedling pots to 3 gallon fabric pots. After doing some research I’ve heard it’s best to turn off the LED light for a couple days until the roots settle. Any suggestions as far as that goes or any other tips the help them settle?
 

Maui7769

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Also any watering tips, I don’t want to over water them. Do I need to water until water come out the bottom. I’m using a spray pump so I can measure out the roughly 20 oz of water per watering that’s suggested for that amount of soil.
 

HydroKid239

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After doing some research I’ve heard it’s best to turn off the LED light for a couple days until the roots settle. Any suggestions as far as that goes or any other tips the help them settle?
Idk about turning the lights off. I’ve never done it. I always kept my lights on. And did the transplanting during lights on right outside the tent. I tilt the lights towards the spot I have the plant so she still gets light. Probably don’t have to, but it’s only a few clicks on the rope ratchet.
 

HydroKid239

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Also any watering tips, I don’t want to over water them. Do I need to water until water come out the bottom. I’m using a spray pump so I can measure out the roughly 20 oz of water per watering that’s suggested for that amount of soil.
You don’t have to water til run off the first time but I would have sprayed a good amount of water in the hole she’s goin into before transplanting and just water right at the stem area and around the hole made for her. Let her dry, then water til run off. That’s the way I’ve been doing it and I’ve run into no issues. Not even shock that I’ve noticed affect growth.
 
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