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    Sirtwistsalot Well-Known Member

    I run Greenleaf Nutrients Mega Crop, super thrive and love. The Entire operation is gravity fed from a 55gal barrel of GLMC. The 55 feeds (2) 30 gallon coolers that pump to the (orange 5gal) and (blue 10gal)coolers respectively. There is no need to access the roots after the plants start to fill the screens. I run the nutrients for 2-3 weeks, adding every other day to keep the ppm stable.
    This pic is older. It was taken before the screens were installed. I was testing to see how it would be without them. I'll never do that again!
    You can see the 55gal up on blocks on the right side between the nursery and veg area.
    Closer up of 55 on the right. Nursery on left. Top lines feed, bottom lines dump.

    Last edited: Apr 14, 2018
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    charface Well-Known Member

    Here is an update.
    This time what im doing is filling the screen 110percent then flipping.

    I have done it at 75, 80 etc

    I cant describe the amount of tucking and straight up spiraling and criss crossing even using other branches as net at times.

    Once an area was so full I couldn't do more i topped the runaways.

    In about two weeks this 8x5 will be full
    But will require another topping of the older growth to achieve uniformity.

    So in 3 weeks I flip and let it go.

    As you can see I need to do a final clean up on the bottom.

    You will see where I've topped runaways.

    Looks like a mess now but I predict some scrog porn soon.

    The downside is all said and done this will be an almost 6 mo scrog.

    I can fix that though by adding more plants.

    The real experiment here for me was
    Filling the net 100 then topping and flipping. In the past I always felt Flipping sooner than this was a waste
    Of my space.

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Yee fuckin haw :clap:
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    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    So do you like the fill it and kill whatever you dont want method better

    or hoping to fill the net better?
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    charface Well-Known Member

    Just trying to max the net out.
    In the past i've ran multi strains and flipped too soon which was a huge waste.

    Even this time its all sour d from seed but they aren't all uniform but Im overcoming that with a longer veg.

    This run is actually a pheno hunt as well. I will know which of these plants I like best and next scrog will be all one pheno from clone
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    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Im a fill it and kill it guy myself :)

    That run you got is going to be sweet!

    But i find my self wanting to do some short veg runs
    As growing bushes and trees with long veg is getting tiresome haha
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    charface Well-Known Member

    Yeah, i should have added 2 more plants this time but I didn't have the extra seeds. I think im going to do a few more runs then start playing with sea of green. I just cant stop thinking about it so I have to. Lol

    Another thing I cant help but be interested in are autos but I only have so much time n space.
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    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    You and me BOTH

    I havent quite become an auto pro as im too spoiled by easily fixing photo plants if i have probs lol

    But the last 2 autos i ran where great!

    And i want to order some autos soon so i can try to make auto seeds just to constantly be able to flower one or 2 in my veg room while vegging:)

    Im switching to a "sog" of sorts lol as i gota try it once as well
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    charface Well-Known Member

    Im sure sog will be just as addictive.
    Have to experiment with veg time, strain and topping.
    No fucking net.
    But also no room on the floor I suspect.
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    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    We think similarly.

    Im going to go vertical :shock:

    Im going to split my room

    And im going to stack 2. 2x6ft tables

    In a nft type setup .

    I did an experiment with wasted light off my main canopy and it did very respectable for not receiving direct love from the lights.

    So im going to stack! Ill do half the room first.
    Just to prove it works (with me) and then ill do the other half of the room.

    If it works out i may even build dedicated strip set ups to light the individual tables
    Kinda like stacked commercial setup :hump:

    This way i can add about half more square footage in the same room
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    charface Well-Known Member

    I was listening to something, somewhere recently and the guys measured the 'poorly' lit area between two lights and showed it was actually pretty respectable. Being the same lower output but coming from two places. Made me feel better about that space because I always wondered.

    It will be interesting to check out your vertical.
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    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Im still wanting to know what i did with one little light lol

    I spent all day trimming got 4 plants done haha

    Next half is next as soon as they go cloudy with a few amber but, it is a haze so im pulling @13 weeks whether she likes it or not :)

    Im at 11 weeks now and pulled 2 tester buds off the haze so i know what an 11 week finish will be like on this one.
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    charface Well-Known Member

    For what its worth.
    I have 5 sour d's
    Same age
    Same food
    Same lights
    In fact same net.

    4 of them are in 15 gallon bags
    1 of them is in a 5 or 7?

    Can you guess which is in the smaller
    Bag? Yep

    The smaller bag is also not pulling its weight in reference to growth.

    Coincidence? Pffft...
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    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Nice trunks char!
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    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Soil or pro mix,coco?

    charface Well-Known Member

    Ffof and gh.
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    charface Well-Known Member

    They were in 1 gal for 1 month then in the larger fir about 8weeks
    So they are about 3mo from seed
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    charface Well-Known Member

    Prepare to cringe ladies..

    So as I stated I planned to overgrow 100% of my 8x5 net before flipping

    In the process of doing that some areas got so dense all I could do is let it grow tall while I continued filling the net.
    There is about a foot squareon each side I couldn't fill.
    I think this pic is 11 daysold.

    So as promised, I took these bad boys in and trimmed it in about 1 min.
    I already knew I would have to level the canopy because With the light movers I wouldn't have the head room to flower these plus I want the canopy level.
    Here we are after haircut ready to flip.
    I will throw another trellis for support and will report back when stretch is over.

    Again this had to be done because in order to fill this whole screen prior to flip some areas were full and as a result got too tall.

    I still predict a good haul.

    Let the beatings begin...
    Last edited: May 18, 2018
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    charface Well-Known Member

    Ill go back in tomorrow and trim back any long stems
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    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Fuck yea baby :hump::clap:bongsmilie:shock::weed::twisted:
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