DWC Root Slime Cure aka How to Breed Beneficial Microbes

Same prob here. First 10 days with tea is money.. First rez change and its back right away, noticable to most is 2 days ater rez change.
Weaker tea?
Not enugh tea added at the change?
More food for slime at rez change?
yea i think this shyt is like diabetes it can be controlled but it aint goin away. so i guess i gotta dial in and maybe add stronger tea. idk....im about to never change the rez jus scoop away gunk wit a fish net cuz i swear things go great till i change rez ...but yea man if u have a breakthru moment and figure this out plzshare..thnks for the input
 
over 5 days and no new growth. Water and tea only, I dont see the point of adding mild nutes when there are no unslimed roots that can absorb them. just waiting for one whitey to pop.. but nope... just slimed roots that smell like shroomy tea. added even more airstones just for the hell of it.

I think i might go with your idea wheresdasourd and not change res 'completely' until i have massive roots. thats IF the tea ever starts working again... 5 more days and they go into a soil/coco mix and ill have the microbes in the soil fix it for sure even thou it will take about 2 weeks to rocover.

ANYONE WITH A SIMILIAR PROBLEM WITH ANSWER? did it take anyone over a week to see ANY white root growth.. or is that too long and it prob had to much slime ( even though water is clean)?????
 

Heisenberg

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Guys I really can't think of any reason a res change would trigger the slime. If you want you can simply use the add back method for now, which allows you to keep the same res for much longer. This involves adding like 1/3 nutes weekly, or a little with each water, to tr to replace what's been used. You will have to research the proper add back for your situation. I would say your plants are using very little for now, so I would personally just try to maintain the ppm for a few weeks until the roots are robust. This is the worst time of the year for slime, I have it myself in fact in my cloners right now. I haven't seen slime in years so I got lazy about adding tea to my cloners. Everything was fine for months until the deep summer hit, and BAM my cloners are full of snot. Keep in mind this is just water, not even PH'd, no organics or nutes of any kind, and it slimes over. I am being reminded of how different it is to fight slime instead of prevent it. Despite tea treatment and daily water changes, the clones are not rooting and the stems are gelled. I'm confident that if I start with fresh cuttings and treat from the beginning it'll be fine, but i've lost this batch. Thankfully there is not even a hint of slime anywhere else in my garden, suggesting that an established colony of beneficials will keep it at bay. This also reinforces my hypothesis that the slime has a lot to do with your local environment, and once a system is shown to be prone to slime, you need to use tea forever or switch methods.
 
Guys I really can't think of any reason a res change would trigger the slime. If you want you can simply use the add back method for now, which allows you to keep the same res for much longer. This involves adding like 1/3 nutes weekly, or a little with each water, to tr to replace what's been used. You will have to research the proper add back for your situation. I would say your plants are using very little for now, so I would personally just try to maintain the ppm for a few weeks until the roots are robust. This is the worst time of the year for slime, I have it myself in fact in my cloners right now. I haven't seen slime in years so I got lazy about adding tea to my cloners. Everything was fine for months until the deep summer hit, and BAM my cloners are full of snot. I am being reminded of how different it is to fight slime instead of prevent it. Despite tea treatment and daily water changes, the clones are not rooting and the stems are gelled. I'm confident that if I start with fresh cuttings and treat from the beginning it'll be fine, but i've lost this batch. Thankfully there is not even a hint of slime anywhere else in my garden, suggesting that an established colony of beneficials will keep it at bay. This also reinforces my hypothesis that the slime has a lot to do with your local environment, and once a system is shown to be prone to slime, you need to use tea forever or switch methods.
So in our(wheresdasour) situation, at what point do you feel resterilizing is needed once you mess up (in my case organics) and youve gone soon to be a week on the correct regimen? How long do you think is the longest you would wait to do something different? I see most people on this thread see whiteys 3-5 days after inoculation.
 

Bwpz

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My roots aren't white either. I use organics, and I'm sure the organics stain the roots, don't they?
 

Heisenberg

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So in our(wheresdasour) situation, at what point do you feel resterilizing is needed once you mess up (in my case organics) and youve gone soon to be a week on the correct regimen? How long do you think is the longest you would wait to do something different? I see most people on this thread see whiteys 3-5 days after inoculation.
That's sort of a gamble. There is a point where the roots have just had enough and quit, and sterilizing/bennies/sterilizing/bennies seems to bring that on. Small root balls are especially prone to this, and sometimes the disease travels right up to the base of the roots and stalk, preventing any new shoots from ever forming. If you haven't seen anything in a week, nothing at all, then I don't see what it could hurt to sterilize, but it's probably your last shot. If this is something you must keep, better put it in soil until you get a hold on things. I have had to do that before.
 
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I'm going to go here tomorrow to pick up some EWC, can you find something in their inventory that would be a good replacement for mycogrow? Trying to spend as little as possible but still have good results. currently roots are developing slime and leaves are yellowing with brown spots i think as a result of the slime (lack of nutrient uptake) so i'm getting desperate!
 

Heisenberg

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My roots aren't white either. I use organics, and I'm sure the organics stain the roots, don't they?
Sure, after a while you'll learn to notice the difference between stain and discoloration. It's subtle but easy to spot once you catch on. My GH turn the roots a light brown sometimes, but true disease just has a dingy sick sorta look.
 

ELWOOD73

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Tea will be finished tonight ! I do have a question Heisenburg I never had a problem till one day I noticed my Ro had algae and said damn so I changed it and moved it from my shop cuz it gets warm out there like a 100 plus which was dumb on my part and I moved it into my 75 degree veg room with light socks over it and then the next thing I know I got problems in my under current ! Do you think there is a coralation on this or is it just coincidence ? I washed two ladies off and just this morning I noticed I have a whole different one that the leaves are all drooping down and the roots aren't covered in slime but are brownish in color ? I hope the tea will fix the problem but I didn't noticed this girl in time so I'm not to confident in her making a come back :(
 
I dont think my roots have yet given up, and i feel like its not that i havent seen any new growth.. but it seems right when the little guys pop out they start to turn clear, yellow and soggy right away. not the nutes guys, havent had any nutes this week... i just added a little cal mag and canna vega
 

Heisenberg

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I dont think my roots have yet given up, and i feel like its not that i havent seen any new growth.. but it seems right when the little guys pop out they start to turn clear, yellow and soggy right away. not the nutes guys, havent had any nutes this week... i just added a little cal mag and canna vega
I'm guessing you need to drop the calmag. Which brand of calmag are you using? Do you know if it contains EDTA? If you bought it for your organic line up, then it probably has organic chelation agents.
 
I'm guessing you need to drop the calmag. Which brand of calmag are you using? Do you know if it contains EDTA? If you bought it for your organic line up, then it probably has organic chelation agents.
I havent used it for the past 5 days, but i added today botanicare cal mag plus. doesnt say EDTA but it says it has chelated iron. how bad is that? is house and garden a and b chelated or organic?

And i never had an organic line up... i just bought the pure blend pro grow last minute to while flipping my recovered tea plants into flower... i just wanted a cheap veg all in one product, for some reason always thought the botanicare lineup wasnt organic....
 

Bwpz

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Is it bad to use non-organics in an organic grow? I've used Cal-Mag in my organic hydro system just this past reservoir change...
 

Heisenberg

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I havent used it for the past 5 days, but i added today botanicare cal mag plus. doesnt say EDTA but it says it has chelated iron. how bad is that? is house and garden a and b chelated or organic?

And i never had an organic line up... i just bought the pure blend pro grow last minute to while flipping my recovered tea plants into flower... i just wanted a cheap veg all in one product, for some reason always thought the botanicare lineup wasnt organic....
Chelating agents themselves can be synthetic or organic. Calmag plus is EDTA, which is synthetic. So it's probably not the heart of your problem.


Sorry if I am getting some of you guys confused. Hard to keep track of what everyone is using and what stage of the war they are in.
 
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