Donald Trump Private Citizen

Roger A. Shrubber said:

not trying to be a douchebag...but that last paragraph kind of doesn't make sense...really, not critiquing your writing technique, it doesn't seem quite coherent to me. there's at least some punctuation missing and i'm not sure where, exactly

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Here you go.
[Until the racist shit of our past if cleaned up(,) we are screwing Americans who have always voted just because (of) racist propaganda (which is) pretending like anyone not in a right wing cult is going to spam votes and risk (risking) prison time for (their) Dear Leader/any politician (of choice).]

hanimmal said:

Here you go.
[Until the racist shit of our past if cleaned up(,) we are screwing Americans who have always voted just because (of) racist propaganda (which is) pretending like anyone not in a right wing cult is going to spam votes and risk (risking) prison time for (their) Dear Leader/any politician (of choice).]

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ok..that helped.
true enough, it shouldn't be difficult for anyone allowed to vote to do so, many states have very successful mail in voting programs, which alleviate a lot of crowding at polling places and streamlines the whole system, and the states that don't really ought to adopt the policy.
i doubt anyone in their right minds (which excludes trumpists) believe that immigrants or anyone else is going to vote multiple times, it's an obvious ploy, and they should be called out on it whenever they try it.
a very simple answer seems to be a standardized federal voting system that states are required to follow. they had a chance to do this shit for themselves, and fucked it up, so now they should lose that privilege, and all have to follow the same procedures, so we know what the little bastards are up to...
of course, the states are going to yell blue murder, and claim the federal government is trying to subverts state's rights, and a couple of states (texas and florida, i'm looking at you...) might attempt to succeed, which will have predictable, catastrophic results....
all this shit is tied together, and the least thing you do to one trumptard, the more the rest of them moo...fixing some of this shit is going to be painful, to say the least

No Wonder Trump Is Nervous: NY Attorney General Looking At Trump Bid For D.C. Hotel

Rachel Maddow reports on how New York Attorney General Letitia James has subpoenaed the records of Donald Trump's former Washington, D.C. hotel, with particular attention to whether financial claims made in the acquisition process were fraudulent.

Donald Trump to Newsmax: 'RINO' Graham 'Wrong' on Jan. 6 Pardons
Former President Donald Trump has received significant pushback over his suggestion at a weekend rally that he would pardon overcharged and mistreated Jan. 6 arrestees -- he considers them political prisoners, not offenders.

"These people are being treated horribly," Trump told "Rob Schmitt Tonight" in an exclusive interview. "I would absolutely – because some of them are being treated very unfairly – yeah, I would absolutely give them a pardon, if things don't work out fairly."

People should not doubt Trump's resolve on this issue, he told host Rob Schmitt. In particular, the former president was referring to Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who has been a strong Trump supporter but who also called pardons "inappropriate."

"Well, Lindsey Graham's wrong," Trump said, dropping the Republican in Name Only (RINO) moniker on Graham. RINO is a term Trump has often invoked in reference to GOP members who side with Democrats on volatile issues like election fraud and the politicization of the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol siege.

"I mean, Lindsey's a nice guy, but he's a RINO. Lindsey's wrong.

"I would absolutely be prepared, and Lindsey Graham doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, if he says that, because you have to have equal justice," Trump added. "It's very, very unfair what's happened to this group of people."

The charges and sentences thus far are "out of proportion," Trump said, particularly when compared with the lack of charges for summer 2020 participants in riots, arson attacks and vandalism tied to the protests over the police killing of George Floyd.

"Out of proportion? Like 20 times out of proportion," Trump said of the Jan. 6 defendants. "These people are being persecuted."

Not only are the charges trumped up, but the conditions are "disgusting" in the jails, Trump insisted.

"These people are in jail, in a horrible, disgusting, dirty jail so bad that the court system – which is very left – is angry that people have to live like this," Trump said. "And some of these people are not guilty. Many of these people are not guilty.

"What they've done to these, in many cases, patriots – they're soldiers, they're policemen – what they've done to them compared to what they've done to the other side? You know, you have to have equal justice. And this isn't equal."

Trump excoriated Democrats, accusing them of taking a lenient view of criminal behavior during the Floyd protests.

"Look, they tried to burn down – we're talking federal buildings – they were terrible," Trump said. "Every Democrat city was on fire, and nobody says anything about it. Antifa and BLM were causing such problems, including death. They're not treating these people the same way."

i love how he tries to equate riots with a coup attempt.

rkymtnman said:

i love how he tries to equate riots with a coup attempt.

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"patriots – they're soldiers, they're policemen "

printer said:

"patriots – they're soldiers, they're policemen "

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He’s only for law and order when it suits his needs. I can’t believe people buy the shit he’s shoveling but once down the rabbit hole it seems there’s no going back.

C. Nesbitt said:

He’s only for law and order when it suits his needs. I can’t believe people buy the shit he’s shoveling but once down the rabbit hole it seems there’s no going back.

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i'm convinced the maga crowd is gonna claim it's a body double that's actually in prison (fingers crossed)

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Donald Trump to Newsmax: 'RINO' Graham 'Wrong' on Jan. 6 Pardons
Former President Donald Trump has received significant pushback over his suggestion at a weekend rally that he would pardon overcharged and mistreated Jan. 6 arrestees -- he considers them political prisoners, not offenders.

"These people are being treated horribly," Trump told "Rob Schmitt Tonight" in an exclusive interview. "I would absolutely – because some of them are being treated very unfairly – yeah, I would absolutely give them a pardon, if things don't work out fairly."

People should not doubt Trump's resolve on this issue, he told host Rob Schmitt. In particular, the former president was referring to Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who has been a strong Trump supporter but who also called pardons "inappropriate."

"Well, Lindsey Graham's wrong," Trump said, dropping the Republican in Name Only (RINO) moniker on Graham. RINO is a term Trump has often invoked in reference to GOP members who side with Democrats on volatile issues like election fraud and the politicization of the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol siege.

"I mean, Lindsey's a nice guy, but he's a RINO. Lindsey's wrong.

"I would absolutely be prepared, and Lindsey Graham doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, if he says that, because you have to have equal justice," Trump added. "It's very, very unfair what's happened to this group of people."

The charges and sentences thus far are "out of proportion," Trump said, particularly when compared with the lack of charges for summer 2020 participants in riots, arson attacks and vandalism tied to the protests over the police killing of George Floyd.

"Out of proportion? Like 20 times out of proportion," Trump said of the Jan. 6 defendants. "These people are being persecuted."

Not only are the charges trumped up, but the conditions are "disgusting" in the jails, Trump insisted.

"These people are in jail, in a horrible, disgusting, dirty jail so bad that the court system – which is very left – is angry that people have to live like this," Trump said. "And some of these people are not guilty. Many of these people are not guilty.

"What they've done to these, in many cases, patriots – they're soldiers, they're policemen – what they've done to them compared to what they've done to the other side? You know, you have to have equal justice. And this isn't equal."

Trump excoriated Democrats, accusing them of taking a lenient view of criminal behavior during the Floyd protests.

"Look, they tried to burn down – we're talking federal buildings – they were terrible," Trump said. "Every Democrat city was on fire, and nobody says anything about it. Antifa and BLM were causing such problems, including death. They're not treating these people the same way."

Donald Trump to Newsmax: 'RINO' Graham 'Wrong' on Jan. 6 Pardons

Former President Donald Trump has received significant pushback over this suggestion at a weekend rally that he would pardon overcharged and mistreated Jan. 6 arrestees; he considers them political prisoners, not offenders.

www.newsmax.com

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the courts aren't even concerned about the condition of the jails, because they're in good shape...another fucking stupid lie that was so easy to disprove you have to wonder if trump is even capable of telling the truth, even to benefit himself?
every democrat city was on fire....and no one says anything about it...because that's a load of horseshit, just like everything that comes out of that fucktards mouth...and most if not all of the fires were started by white supremacist agents trying to incite violence, and they were probably sent there by trumps buddy, one eyed elmer....
you want equal justice? then train the police to ask questions before they open fire...train them that a knife isn't a reason to shoot someone in the head, people have extremities, and if you shoot someone in the leg, chances are they aren't going to keep fighting back very long....and get the fat fucks on a treadmill till they can catch someone whose running away, so they won't be shooting people in the back...and in general, don't target someone just because they aren't a white conservative...

Roger A. Shrubber said:

the courts aren't even concerned about the condition of the jails, because they're in good shape...another fucking stupid lie that was so easy to disprove you have to wonder if trump is even capable of telling the truth, even to benefit himself?
every democrat city was on fire....and no one says anything about it...because that's a load of horseshit, just like everything that comes out of that fucktards mouth...and most if not all of the fires were started by white supremacist agents trying to incite violence, and they were probably sent there by trumps buddy, one eyed elmer....
you want equal justice? then train the police to ask questions before they open fire...train them that a knife isn't a reason to shoot someone in the head, people have extremities, and if you shoot someone in the leg, chances are they aren't going to keep fighting back very long....and get the fat fucks on a treadmill till they can catch someone whose running away, so they won't be shooting people in the back...and in general, don't target someone just because they aren't a white conservative...

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Disagree about shooting someone in the leg, not an easy thing under pressure. But say they have a knife. What about backing up ten feet and telling the person you are not a threat, try to deescalate the situation. We had a girl in the middle of our busiest intersection screaming and waving around a gun. Ended with no shots fired and her taken away. But we shoot people less up here.

printer said:

Disagree about shooting someone in the leg, not an easy thing under pressure. But say they have a knife. What about backing up ten feet and telling the person you are not a threat, try to deescalate the situation. We had a girl in the middle of our busiest intersection screaming and waving around a gun. Ended with no shots fired and her taken away. But we shoot people less up here.

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they're supposed to be highly skilled trained professionals...aiming at an extremity instead of main body mass is too hard for a trained highly skilled professional?
de-escalation is good, way the hell better than shooting someone, but if it comes down to it, you don't have to shoot to kill, this isn't fucking tombstone (unless you happen to live in tombstone, in which case....)
and the guy who got shot like 9 times the other day who had a knife and pulled some shiny object from his pocket...9 times, really? how about in those situations, you pick one guy to take a shot if necessary, and one to be ready in case he misses...ten cops in a circle and 9 of them are shooting...at one guy...¿

Roger A. Shrubber said:

they're supposed to be highly skilled trained professionals...aiming at an extremity instead of main body mass is too hard for a trained highly skilled professional?
de-escalation is good, way the hell better than shooting someone, but if it comes down to it, you don't have to shoot to kill, this isn't fucking tombstone (unless you happen to live in tombstone, in which case....)
and the guy who got shot like 9 times the other day who had a knife and pulled some shiny object from his pocket...9 times, really? how about in those situations, you pick one guy to take a shot if necessary, and one to be ready in case he misses...ten cops in a circle and 9 of them are shooting...at one guy...¿

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Don't know what they thing loading up a guy with lead. But on aiming a gun, I have done some of that. It is not as easy as in the movies, and I used to go out twice a week. We had guys that could put a tight pattern into a target. Then we do a balloon shoot, each person with a balloon on their target, the target opens up for 5 seconds and then closes. Lot of balloons still up and standing. And none of us in danger of a knife wielding balloon blown up by some clown. Distance helps in that you have more time to think and react, distance makes it harder to hit what you are aiming at. Somebody off at a distance with a rifle could be a candidate for a limb shot. Handguns with stress and a moving target you might get lucky, you might not. And who said they are highly trained? I probably shot off more rounds than a cop gets to practice in his career.

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And who said they are highly trained? I probably shot off more rounds than a cop gets to practice in his career.

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they sure as fuck ought to be out there on the range at least once a week, peoples lives depend on their accuracy, and ability to decide whether or not this is a situation that requires lethal force

Graham defends opposition to Jan 6 pardons after Trump calls him a 'RINO'
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Wednesday defended his stance against offering pardons to Jan. 6, 2021, defendants a day after former President Trump called him a “RINO,” an acronym that means “Republican In Name Only.”

“I stand with the police officers who protect our streets, federal courthouses, and the United States Capitol against rioters. They deserve our respect and support and I will not second-guess the decisions they made under dire circumstances,” the senator said in a statement.
However, he emphasized that Americans needed to have a unified voice against “politically motivated violence.”

“All Americans are entitled to have a speedy trial and their day in court, but those who actively engage in violence for whatever political cause must be held accountable and not be forgiven,” Graham said.

The remarks from Graham follow comments that Trump made during an interview with Newsmax on Tuesday night. Trump was responding to an interview that Graham did last weekend on CBS’s “Face the Nation” in which he called it “inappropriate” to offer pardons to the defendants of the Jan. 6 riot — an idea floated by Trump at a rally.

"You talked about the potential, if it's appropriate, of pardoning some of the January 6ers," Newsmax’s Rob Schmitt asked the former president. "Lindsey Graham said a couple days later, he thinks that's inappropriate. What do you think?"

"Well, Lindsey Graham's wrong. I mean, Lindsey's a nice guy, but he's a RINO. Lindsey's wrong,” Trump said.
"Lindsey Graham doesn't know what the hell he's talking about if he says that," Trump added later in the interview.

The remarks are surprising from Trump, given that Graham is considered one of the former president’s closest allies in the Senate. He has often used the acronym “RINO” to refer to other Republicans like Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who also told reporters on Tuesday that he was against pardoning Jan. 6 rioters.

"I would not be in favor of shortening any of the sentences for any of the people who pleaded guilty to crimes," the Senate GOP leader said.
“The election of 2020 was decided Dec. 14 of 2020 when the Electoral College certified the winner of the election. What we saw here on January the 6th was an effort to prevent the peaceful transfer of power from one administration to another, which has never happened before in our country,” McConnell added.

Roger A. Shrubber said:

the courts aren't even concerned about the condition of the jails, because they're in good shape...another fucking stupid lie that was so easy to disprove you have to wonder if trump is even capable of telling the truth, even to benefit himself?
every democrat city was on fire....and no one says anything about it...because that's a load of horseshit, just like everything that comes out of that fucktards mouth...and most if not all of the fires were started by white supremacist agents trying to incite violence, and they were probably sent there by trumps buddy, one eyed elmer....
you want equal justice? then train the police to ask questions before they open fire...train them that a knife isn't a reason to shoot someone in the head, people have extremities, and if you shoot someone in the leg, chances are they aren't going to keep fighting back very long....and get the fat fucks on a treadmill till they can catch someone whose running away, so they won't be shooting people in the back...and in general, don't target someone just because they aren't a white conservative...

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You don't seem to understand how hard it is in Georgia's prison system. No American should be incarcerated under those conditions.

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Graham defends opposition to Jan 6 pardons after Trump calls him a 'RINO'
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Wednesday defended his stance against offering pardons to Jan. 6, 2021, defendants a day after former President Trump called him a “RINO,” an acronym that means “Republican In Name Only.”

“I stand with the police officers who protect our streets, federal courthouses, and the United States Capitol against rioters. They deserve our respect and support and I will not second-guess the decisions they made under dire circumstances,” the senator said in a statement.
However, he emphasized that Americans needed to have a unified voice against “politically motivated violence.”

“All Americans are entitled to have a speedy trial and their day in court, but those who actively engage in violence for whatever political cause must be held accountable and not be forgiven,” Graham said.

The remarks from Graham follow comments that Trump made during an interview with Newsmax on Tuesday night. Trump was responding to an interview that Graham did last weekend on CBS’s “Face the Nation” in which he called it “inappropriate” to offer pardons to the defendants of the Jan. 6 riot — an idea floated by Trump at a rally.

"You talked about the potential, if it's appropriate, of pardoning some of the January 6ers," Newsmax’s Rob Schmitt asked the former president. "Lindsey Graham said a couple days later, he thinks that's inappropriate. What do you think?"

"Well, Lindsey Graham's wrong. I mean, Lindsey's a nice guy, but he's a RINO. Lindsey's wrong,” Trump said.
"Lindsey Graham doesn't know what the hell he's talking about if he says that," Trump added later in the interview.

The remarks are surprising from Trump, given that Graham is considered one of the former president’s closest allies in the Senate. He has often used the acronym “RINO” to refer to other Republicans like Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who also told reporters on Tuesday that he was against pardoning Jan. 6 rioters.

"I would not be in favor of shortening any of the sentences for any of the people who pleaded guilty to crimes," the Senate GOP leader said.
“The election of 2020 was decided Dec. 14 of 2020 when the Electoral College certified the winner of the election. What we saw here on January the 6th was an effort to prevent the peaceful transfer of power from one administration to another, which has never happened before in our country,” McConnell added.

Graham defends opposition to Jan. 6 pardons after Trump calls him a ‘RINO’

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Wednesday defended his stance against offering pardons to Jan. 6, 2021, defendants a day after former President Trump called him a “RINO,” an acronym that means…

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I have some hope after reading that article that maybe Trump’s unholy grip on the GOP is finally slipping. Lindsey Graham is a politician and needs to please his base to get re-elected but he has not always been in lockstep with Trump. Graham is a repugnant asshole but he’s never been politically stupid.
He certainly jumped on the Trump train and became a spineless sycophant once it was clear he was going to be the republican nominee in 2016. He could have just not commented about the Jan 6 pardons Trump riffed about in a typically unhinged interview, but apparently he calculated that taking a shot at Trump on this is in his best interest.
There is still a faction of republicans, especially in the Senate, that privately despise Trump. The House has a bunch of insane people who have been elected and will never see the light, but even there not all republicans think Trump is wonderful. Taking small steps away from insanity is better then leaning right into it.

C. Nesbitt said:

I have some hope after reading that article that maybe Trump’s unholy grip on the GOP is finally slipping. Lindsey Graham is a politician and needs to please his base to get re-elected but he has not always been in lockstep with Trump. Graham is a repugnant asshole but he’s never been politically stupid.
He certainly jumped on the Trump train and became a spineless sycophant once it was clear he was going to be the republican nominee in 2016. He could have just not commented about the Jan 6 pardons Trump riffed about in a typically unhinged interview, but apparently he calculated that taking a shot at Trump on this is in his best interest.
There is still a faction of republicans, especially in the Senate, that privately despise Trump. The House has a bunch of insane people who have been elected and will never see the light, but even there not all republicans think Trump is wonderful. Taking small steps away from insanity is better then leaning right into it.

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The House has a shorter term than the Senate, Trump has more power over someone with an election coming up and the ability to primary the person out. Too easy for Trump to mobilize enough of an effort to primary a person out.

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Too easy for Trump to mobilize enough of an effort to primary a person out

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maybe not

rkymtnman said:

maybe not

Republicans who impeached Trump outpace challengers in latest fundraising haul

Republicans seeking re-election who backed former President Donald Trump's impeachment or voted to convict him last year are outpacing their GOP challengers in the money race, according to the latest Federal Election Commission filings.

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Who needs money though when you can micro target people with their militarized troll army (foreign and domestic) in those districts.

rkymtnman said:

maybe not

Republicans who impeached Trump outpace challengers in latest fundraising haul

Republicans seeking re-election who backed former President Donald Trump's impeachment or voted to convict him last year are outpacing their GOP challengers in the money race, according to the latest Federal Election Commission filings.

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There are only a few hundred thousand in her state/district, but usually lunatics vote in primaries and Donald has a lock on those. If she is primaried, she should run as an independent, money won't be an issue and courage never goes out of fashion, so she could win. So I'd say, if the republican lunatics toss her, she should run an an independent and take votes from them at least. There is a long time between now and the election, anything could happen, Donald could be in prison by then, if I had to bet, I'd say he will be. Trump won't be worrying about politics and being king maker soon, he will have more immediate concerns, like being indicted somewhere and fighting to keep his ass outta jail.