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With Supreme Court Ruling, the Investigative Circle is Tightening Around Trump in NY\GA\Congress

With the announcement that Fulton County, Georgia, District Attorney Fani Willis is seeking to impanel a special grand jury with subpoena power to investigate Donald Trump's possible Georgia state election crimes, the investigative circle continues to tighten around Trump. This investigation is added to the New York invstigations being conducted by NY Attorney General Leticia James, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, the House select committee, and the Department of Justice.

So with the Georgia grand jury being the newest jurisdiction issuing subpoenas, we could ask if these subpoenas will be taken any more seriously or handled any more expeditiously than congressional subpoenas or subpoenas in AG James' civil investigation, all of which are being fought in court. The answer is yes, because all subpoenas are not created equal. Here is a review of the different types of subpoenas involved in investigating Donald Trump.
 

printer

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Trump Blasts Georgia Election Probe
Former President Donald Trump ripped into Georgia’s ongoing 2020 election investigation on Friday following a report that the Fulton County District Attorney's office requested a special grand jury in her criminal probe into Trump's actions.

"So let me get this straight, I am being investigated in Georgia for asking an Attorney General with many lawyers and others knowingly on the phone to look for corruption, which definitely took place in the Georgia Presidential election — but the people who committed the crime are in no way, shape, or form under investigation and are instead being protected?" Trump said in a statement.

"The people looking for the crime are being hounded and the people who committed the crime are being protected. This is not the American way."

His remarks came after Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, who has been investigating possible attempts to interfere in the 2020 general election by Trump, requested a special grand jury to help in the probe.

Willis made her request in a Thursday letter to Christopher Brasher, chief judge of the Fulton County Superior Court.

In the letter, she said: "Please be advised that the District Attorney's Office has received information indicating a reasonable probability that the state of Georgia's administration of elections in 2020, including the state's election of the president of the United States, was subject to possible criminal disruption."

The Associated Press says Willis previously confirmed the investigation includes — but is not limited to — a Jan. 2, 2021, phone call between Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a call in November 2020 between Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and Raffensperger, and the resignation of the U.S. attorney in Atlanta on Jan. 4, 2021. It also includes comments made during December 2020 Georgia legislative committee hearings on the election.
 

CatHedral

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Trump Blasts Georgia Election Probe
Former President Donald Trump ripped into Georgia’s ongoing 2020 election investigation on Friday following a report that the Fulton County District Attorney's office requested a special grand jury in her criminal probe into Trump's actions.

"So let me get this straight, I am being investigated in Georgia for asking an Attorney General with many lawyers and others knowingly on the phone to look for corruption, which definitely took place in the Georgia Presidential election — but the people who committed the crime are in no way, shape, or form under investigation and are instead being protected?" Trump said in a statement.

"The people looking for the crime are being hounded and the people who committed the crime are being protected. This is not the American way."

His remarks came after Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, who has been investigating possible attempts to interfere in the 2020 general election by Trump, requested a special grand jury to help in the probe.

Willis made her request in a Thursday letter to Christopher Brasher, chief judge of the Fulton County Superior Court.

In the letter, she said: "Please be advised that the District Attorney's Office has received information indicating a reasonable probability that the state of Georgia's administration of elections in 2020, including the state's election of the president of the United States, was subject to possible criminal disruption."

The Associated Press says Willis previously confirmed the investigation includes — but is not limited to — a Jan. 2, 2021, phone call between Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a call in November 2020 between Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and Raffensperger, and the resignation of the U.S. attorney in Atlanta on Jan. 4, 2021. It also includes comments made during December 2020 Georgia legislative committee hearings on the election.
“just find me 11000 indictments”
This is a good time for Schadenfreude.
 

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If you ask for an ID to vote your a racist
So how do you feel about reducing the number of polling stations in Democratic areas? Eliminating Sunday polls as the black community would head on over after church to vote? There are other items but I need to get movie night going.
 

Dorian2

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Hey. Serious question from an uneducated except for from 2020 on USA politics and government person from West Eh-ville. You may have to read that sentence once or twice lol.

Don't legal Americans have to provide ID when voting? Is this a loaded question?
 

HGCC

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Hey. Serious question from an uneducated except for from 2020 on USA politics and government person from West Eh-ville. You may have to read that sentence once or twice lol.

Don't legal Americans have to provide ID when voting? Is this a loaded question?
It is state dependent.


It does wind up as a contentious issue. Idk, it seems reasonable to prove you are who you say you are and live in the place you are voting for....but there is a bunch of fuckery trying to make it harder to vote in some places. Generally it's Republicans raising a stink over it, and well, they keep being the ones caught committing voter fraud so kind of hard to take the criticism seriously.
 
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HGCC

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It makes sense to me to register to vote when getting your ID, then mail in ballots based on your legal address. That disenfranchises a bunch of people though and just misses a lot of nuance. I moved every year for a long time, while you should update your legal address each time, no one does and I don't think you legally are required. That doesn't mean I wasn't an eligible voter, the requirements for eligibility are minimal. That's a lot of people in their 20s.

There's some weird difficulties in getting legal ID when you are like a middle aged grown up that never really had anything like that. Also, some of those people have a rather hard time navigating any level of bureaucracy, systems certainly exist to get all that established but some people just aren't able to navigate that.
 

hanimmal

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Interesting system. Needs streamlining. ;)
It is hard when you have regional differences that end up screwing people when you try to do a one size fits all fix. We have people who don't have SSN's or birth certificates that are not only poor, but also elderly and have no reason to spend hours in the secretary of state's offices just to be denied or have to pay money that they don't have just to get the ability to vote.

And to really fix it, would take a lot of resources focused on improving the lives and access to the vote for people that the Republicans have been trying like hell to keep from voting.
 

rkymtnman

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