Do you know somthing called water?

Doer

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We are talking about deep mind in the Philosophy threads. But, in science, I'm sure there is no evidence of what you believe. I also believe the mind is much more potent than is currently credited in the science. I'm very familiar with the subject, but aside from Kirilan photography there is no evidence. And no one knows what that is evidence of.

Still gotta love the little snowflakes working their asses of on those tiny scales. But the wonder is not the snowflake is we who perceive it as beauty.
 

ginjawarrior

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We are talking about deep mind in the Philosophy threads. But, in science, I'm sure there is no evidence of what you believe. I also believe the mind is much more potent than is currently credited in the science. I'm very familiar with the subject, but aside from Kirilan photography there is no evidence. And no one knows what that is evidence of.

Still gotta love the little snowflakes working their asses of on those tiny scales. But the wonder is not the snowflake is we who perceive it as beauty.
erm http://www.skepdic.com/kirlian.html
 

mindphuk

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does he pick or sort what he knows to be an inprint of the certain protonal discharge (mood)? this is what i think is the universal language :) its just in a form we dont understand :)
You can think whatever you want. Just don't expect people with rational minds to come on board.
 

delvite

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We are talking about deep mind in the Philosophy threads. But, in science, I'm sure there is no evidence of what you believe. I also believe the mind is much more potent than is currently credited in the science. I'm very familiar with the subject, but aside from Kirilan photography there is no evidence. And no one knows what that is evidence of.

Still gotta love the little snowflakes working their asses of on those tiny scales. But the wonder is not the snowflake is we who perceive it as beauty.
ok so, energy never exactly the same unless controlled? snowflakes and stamps on water never the same apart from basic shapes? it has been proven that water has memory? so what im looking at is a variation of every kind of energy that exists....................................:) .....................just keep digging............just keep digging................just keep digging :)
 

delvite

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We are talking about deep mind in the Philosophy threads. But, in science, I'm sure there is no evidence of what you believe. I also believe the mind is much more potent than is currently credited in the science. I'm very familiar with the subject, but aside from Kirilan photography there is no evidence. And no one knows what that is evidence of.

Still gotta love the little snowflakes working their asses of on those tiny scales. But the wonder is not the snowflake is we who perceive it as beauty.
the mind and body are receivers friend, you have to fine tune them to intake more e.g fuel and such :)
 

Heisenberg

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...................and this is why we dont understand :) you are limited my friend what you need to know is not :)
Rational inquiry and skepticism is actually the reason we do understand pretty much anything. It limits us only in the sense that we avoid nonsense.
 

delvite

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Rational inquiry and skepticism is actually the reason we do understand pretty much anything. It limits us only in the sense that we avoid nonsense.
Rationality and skepticism are products of our mind as is science, science avoids the things it cant explain or is ilequiped to :) pretty smart you wouldnt put a child in a boxing ring with a world champ would you? science is outdated it runs on syncronicity and always has an answer? what im looking at has no start or end therfore it is on going and reoccuring and forever changing :) i need somthing else ;)
 

Heisenberg

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Rationality and skepticism are products of our mind as is science,
What does this have to do with anything? Are we to automatically dismiss products of our intelligence?

science avoids the things it cant explain or is ilequiped to :) pretty smart you wouldnt put a child in a boxing ring with a world champ would you?
Please give some specific examples of this behavior. Any answer science has ever given us has come from observing things unexplained. Science wouldn't attempt to explain something that already has an explanation. Why is science putting effort into learning about dark matter and dark energy? Why does science want to understand black holes? How do you explain particle accelerators? You don't seem to have put much thought into your statement.

science is outdated it runs on syncronicity and always has an answer?
You are not talking about actual science, you are talking about some distorted picture of science you have in your head. Just as you don't understand the word "energy', you don't understand the word 'science'.

what im looking at has no start or end therfore it is on going and reoccuring and forever changing :) i need somthing else ;)
If what you feel you need is not science then that is fine for you, however you did start the thread by asking for opinions. All we have done is try to point out errors, and all you have done is dismiss us. It would seem what you need most is education. I say that not to belittle you, but as advice if you truly want answers.
 

delvite

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What does this have to do with anything? Are we to automatically dismiss products of our intelligence?



Please give some specific examples of this behavior. Any answer science has ever given us has come from observing things unexplained. Science wouldn't attempt to explain something that already has an explanation. Why is science putting effort into learning about dark matter and dark energy? Why does science want to understand black holes? How do you explain particle accelerators? You don't seem to have put much thought into your statement.



You are not talking about actual science, you are talking about some distorted picture of science you have in your head. Just as you don't understand the word "energy', you don't understand the word 'science'.



If what you feel you need is not science then that is fine for you, however you did start the thread by asking for opinions. All we have done is try to point out errors, and all you have done is dismiss us. It would seem what you need most is education. I say that not to belittle you, but as advice if you truly want answers.
ok human intelligence is over-rated, twisted, distorted and being held back.

example - humans use 10% of our brain and we think were smart :)

if you look deeper you will see that you are energy everything else is fuel?

your right this cant be science because science cant explain it, just dismisses it ( as b/s as put ) and stays away :)

i understand most energy just not this................................ ;)
 

Heisenberg

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ok human intelligence is over-rated, twisted, distorted and being held back.

example - humans use 10% of our brain and we think were smart :)
http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percent.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_brain_myth
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=do-we-really-use-only-10

The idea that large parts of the brain remain unused, and could subsequently be "activated" for conscious use, is without foundation. Although many mysteries regarding brain function remain, every part of the brain has a known function
it is obvious that the brain, like all our other organs, has been shaped by natural selection. Brain tissue is metabolically expensive both to grow and to run, and it strains credulity to think that evolution would have permitted squandering of resources on a scale necessary to build and maintain such a massively underutilized organ. Moreover, doubts are fueled by ample evidence from clinical neurology. Losing far less than 90 percent of the brain to accident or disease has catastrophic consequences. What is more, observing the effects of head injury reveals that there does not seem to be any area of the brain that can be destroyed by strokes, head trauma, or other manner, without leaving the patient with some kind of functional deficit. Likewise, electrical stimulation of points in the brain during neurosurgery has failed so far to uncover any dormant areas where no percept, emotion or movement is elicited by applying these tiny currents
This would be an example of why I said you need education. You don't seem to be fully aware of the vocabulary you employ, or the methods you dismiss. Are you looking for answers, or sensationalism?


your right this cant be science because science cant explain it, just dismisses it ( as b/s as put ) and stays away :)
What I said "wasn't science", was your description of it, as follows.

science avoids the things it cant explain or is ilequiped to .... science is outdated it runs on syncronicity and always has an answer?
You are not describing science, just the distorted picture of it in your head. It can be clearly demonstrated that science does not work this way. Would you like me to present that demonstration?

i understand most energy just not this................................ ;)
What do you understand about energy? Can you explain (in your head, not to me) entropy, thermodynamics, the difference between 'force' and 'power'? If not, then you really can't make this statement, and should educate yourself. It's interesting stuff, and important to know if you are looking for answers involving energy.
 

Heisenberg

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Again let me say that the way you search for answers is totally up to you, but part of any good belief system is peer review. Most of us here speak matter-of-factly with the understanding that we seek for each other to point out possible errors in our thinking and approach. We present to our peers and hope they criticize, because none of us come fully equipped.

Any time someone searches for answers there are bound to be mistakes, and we have identified and labeled most of those common mistakes. Doubting yourself and being aware of probable mistakes is what skepticism is about.

Science is a systematic and careful way of observing nature while using consistent logic to evaluate the results. What about this is outdated? If we are not systematic, we are disordered. If we are not careful, we are sloppy. If we are not consistent, we waste time. You may see this as being strict and rigid, and that is exactly what it is. Being careful also means not dismissing something outright. True investigation means looking at evidence and following it wherever it leads, even if it disappoints you. This is what science is about.
 

Doer

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listen to above he know his shit
Yes, Mr H has a lot patience. We all learn from that. The threadstarter should realize the he wants to discuss science, but he has provided none. Most of it is meaningless so far, but his heart seems pure. So, we all must study ad present facts.

This "only 10% of the brain is used" was debunked long ago. It went down with left/right brain thinking. Modern, real time, brain scans show we think with all our brain. It is a much more complex question. So, I just see dregs of the past and magnet woo, so far. The belief that wants support.
 

missnu

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Well running your water through a magnetic field would remove the iron...but after a while would all this stuff not build up around the magnetic thing, thus causing some sort of blockage?
 

mindphuk

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Rationality and skepticism are products of our mind as is science, science avoids the things it cant explain or is ilequiped to :) pretty smart you wouldnt put a child in a boxing ring with a world champ would you? science is outdated it runs on syncronicity and always has an answer? what im looking at has no start or end therfore it is on going and reoccuring and forever changing :) i need somthing else ;)
 

RyanTheRhino

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ok so, energy never exactly the same unless controlled? snowflakes and stamps on water never the same apart from basic shapes? it has been proven that water has memory? so what im looking at is a variation of every kind of energy that exists....................................:) .....................just keep digging............just keep digging................just keep digging :)

I think one of the biggest things that you aren't understanding is that there are no diffrent types of energy. Energy is energy, joules = joules . There is no imprint energy no green energy no blue energy no negative energy and no positive energy. There are just joules . What you do with this energy is up to you.
 

delvite

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................................so am i the only person that thinks energy can inprint water :)
 
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