Do you know somthing called water?

Heisenberg

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I think one of the biggest things that you aren't understanding is that there are no diffrent types of energy. Energy is energy, joules = joules . There is no imprint energy no green energy no blue energy not negative energy and no positive energy. There are just joules . What you do with this energy is up to you.
Well said.

To OP:
We can think of the word 'energy' as shorthand, a quick way to say "measurable work potential". That means, if energy is not measurable, if you can't determine quantities, then it can't be defined as energy. You are speaking about some vague sort of influence and calling it energy, but if something is that vague, can we measure it?

Is this energy subject to the laws of thermodynamics? If it is, then we can make predictions about it's behavior and test it. If it does not follow thermodynamics, then again, it can't be defined as energy. Energy IS that which follows thermodynamics.

Now, sometimes people use the word energy as a way to describe something they have no other word for. Like when people say "there is a lot of energy in the room". They do not mean the room is full of the ability to do work, they simply mean everyone is in an excited mood. There is nothing wrong with using energy in this way, so long as we are careful to understand that it is being used as a description, and not an explanation. Using energy in this way may help you to convey your thoughts and ideas, but it can do nothing to give any validity to them, it does nothing to explain how something works.

And since I keep saying energy is "the ability to do work', I should probably explain what work is. Work is the transfer of energy from one object (or system) to another. E=mc2. Energy is equal to mass times the speed of light squared. This can be simplified. Mass can be expressed in grams, speed can be expressed in mps. So, energy is equal to the amount of transfer it takes to move a few grams a few meters in a few seconds. Energy is a measurement of work. How can a measurement of work be good or bad, sad or negative?

So when you are off reading about good energy and energy imprints, you should ask yourself, does this person know what he's talking about. Is this person telling me anything meaningful? When someone uses 'energy' in the descriptive way, but pretends they are using it in an explanatory way, they are trying to fool you and take advantage of confusion, or else they are fools themselves.

I am a skeptic, not a physics student, so this is the best way I can explain it to you, the way I came to understand it myself. It's not necessary to understand the full implications of physics, you just need to understand enough to keep yourself from falling for BS.
 

tomcatjones

Active Member
LOL.... wow... don't even know what to say to that but i stopped watching at 8:30 when they guy said positive emotions increased energy level and stabilized the water... It wasn't so much the emotion part just the physics part that was completely wrong. molecules with higher energy are much less stable. He said the opposite.


If you don't know what entropy is why should i even believe your argument. << to the video not the op

yet we use frequency adjusted water to kill mites.. interesting...
 

delvite

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i cant call it energy because its unmeasured, lets call it a "what" :) a black hole ( a force whose gravity feild is too strong for light to escape ) in order to know what im dealing with i will have to know whats behind the event horizon .................say if a black hole formed where the earth is now ( before earth was here ) and a equal of mass/gravity with a slight hole ( tiny ) ;) were to block the event horrizon pushing and expelling the mass the black hole has collapsed (the what) and expelling the "what" at an "equalibrium in all states" this may create what im wanting to find out about ;) ....................................................................IF you can do anything with this mess dr H.................... i do think its going somwhere or is it just entertaining ( just snowflakes ):)
 

mydixiewrecked

New Member
I am not familiar. What is frequency adjustment exactly? And how does that kill mites?
not sure of the exact process, but another person figured it out, if you electrify water it divides into 2 parts, a high alkaline water and a low acidic water, mighty wash and p.m wash are made from these separated waters. there is no magic behind it.
the machine is just really expensive.

here, I found the thread
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/507262-mighty-wash-pm-wash-whats.html
 

Doer

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not sure of the exact process, but another person figured it out, if you electrify water it divides into 2 parts, a high alkaline water and a low acidic water, mighty wash and p.m wash are made from these separated waters. there is no magic behind it.
the machine is just really expensive.

here, I found the thread
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/507262-mighty-wash-pm-wash-whats.html
It's a very expensive way to do pH adjustment without adding reagents? IAC, the "frequency" of the water has nothing to do with it.

So, this is tech, such that it is, but it's not imprinting water. Just a simple question. Imprinting with what, how? No psyco--babble please.
 

Doer

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basicly everything it comes into contact with :)
OK, no circle logic either, You dodged, and answered the WHAT do you claim question. I got the claim.

HOW? To be verifiable as "not woo" NW, there has to be a mechanism. Garbage in garbage out
 

Doer

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Oh etheric energy?...come on, really? This fits the silly side of woo.

Verification of Frequency to produce
Etheric Force from Water - 12/20/97


A recent (1965) possible verification of the frequency Keely used to dissociate water into etheric force was related to me by a scientist when we were discussing certain aspects of free energy. He wishes to remain anonymous for obvious reasons, but his name is on file. I have no other verification of this experiment, however I believe it merits telling.

The reason he would not reveal his name is because he suffered a supercritcal phase change explosion. Boiling water in a column. I bet he shot that right off it's bottom and thru the ceiling. A wonder no one was hurt, but Mr. Pride.
 

delvite

Well-Known Member
Oh etheric energy?...come on, really? This fits the silly side of woo.

Verification of Frequency to produce
Etheric Force from Water - 12/20/97


A recent (1965) possible verification of the frequency Keely used to dissociate water into etheric force was related to me by a scientist when we were discussing certain aspects of free energy. He wishes to remain anonymous for obvious reasons, but his name is on file. I have no other verification of this experiment, however I believe it merits telling.

The reason he would not reveal his name is because he suffered a supercritcal phase change explosion. Boiling water in a column. I bet he shot that right off it's bottom and thru the ceiling. A wonder no one was hurt, but Mr. Pride.
...........i did find this entertaining :) ............................http://keelynet.com/energy/docx.htm
 

Doer

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but where can you get the energy? Anode - Cathode, right? You aren't trying to slide into Cold Fusion, are you? And we are far astray from imprinting water having anything to do with producing hydrogen and oxygen from water.
 

Dr Kynes

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Oh my. this thread makes my brain hurt.

Black holes are not holes. they are collapsed matter. protons (+) and neutrons (=) form the nucleus of an atom. this nucleus is surrounded by whizzing electrons (-). Everything in the universe is controlled by the interplay of two forces, the gravitic attraction of all mass calling things together, and the repulsive and attractive force of electromagnetism.

Every tiny particle of matter (including electrons, photons, and presumably sub-atomic and quantum particles as well) is always exerting force on every other particle, trying to drag the entire universe back into a single lump of non-matter chaotic madness gel where time space matter energy and psuedoscientific craziness all join together in a wild free love be-in, kind of like Burning Man for physicists. This gravitic force seems to transcend space and time, extending throughout everywhere in a manner so wacky that even Einstein couldn't pin it down. It cant be blocked, shielded or (as far as we know yet) neutralized, except by distance.

Electromagnetism is quite different. As distance increases between two particles, the power of the repulsion/attraction reduces by a factor of 3 (look up ""inverse cube law" for the math) and increases in intensity by the same factor as the distance reduces. This is why you keep your lights closer to your top colas to get bigger nugs, but too close makes burnt dope. The electromagnetic force also can be blocked by other matter, whereas gravity cannot. Two protons repel each other, as do two electrons, but a proton and an electron attract each other. Like hippies and dealers at a grateful dead concert, electrons swirl in until the positive electromagnetic force is equalized, and every dealer (proton) has a customer (electron) circling it, buying it's dope. sometimes an extra customer swings in,(negative ionization) but there's no dope for him, so he can be easily shoved off to another concert venue, (atom) where Steel Pulse has attracted an extra dealer looking to move some weight. Sometimes two atoms share a fan base, where individual customers (electrons) enjoy moving freely from one show to another, thus linking the two shows (or more) into a singe fandom. Sometimes these free and easy exchanges of customers (electrons) among so many different nucleus' (snoop dog, eminem, dr dre, etc..) that they form a festival show (molecule) which is held together solely by the commonality of interest from the fans. simple three act shows, like snoop slim shady and dre are the basic building blocks of the newtonian universe, water for example, but some are so wide ranging, eclectic and bizarre that they form extremely complex formations (delta tetra hydro cannabinol for example) which cna cause strange interactions with other nearby molecules and systems (coachella).

Conversely, some systems are so divergent that the electrons will refuse to readily move from one molecule to another (dudes dont go to celine dion concerts) except under the influence of a more powerful force (girlfriend withholding sexual congress) such as solvents, acids, bases and electrical currents. One of the forces which can overpower the repulsive/attractive powers of electromagnetism is gravity. Under the right circumstances, matter can build up to levels where the electromagnetic repulsion power of the electron shell is unable to maintain distance between atoms (criticality) then, just a nudge from outside (explosion from TNT) and the whole system drops into itself, the protons get too close together, and violently push each other way like a fart in an elevator. That's nuclear fission. Sometimes, the critical mass is so great, it simply collapses like a brazilian soccer stadium, and the protons and neutrons fall into each other. sometimes when this happens, the force of all that mass collapsing overpowers the repulsion of two protons in proximity (i blame neutrons) and the just keep stacking up together. Imagine a shitload of eggs in a barrel. the shell is the electrons, the inside is the nucleus (yolk for protons, albumin for neutrons) you can keep placing eggs in the barrel, and as long as the weight of the eggs is less than the crush weight of the shells on the bottom, everything goes swimmingly. but when that last egg goes on top, shells at the bottom start collapsing in a chain reaction. Unlike eggs, whose soft liquid interiors cushion the falls of the next eggs as they drop down, atoms collapse with a violent release of energy, which hits it's nearby neighbors like a hammer, causing them to fail, one after another (chain reaction). once this chain reaction of collapse starts, it cannot be stopped, and any particle (proton neutron or electron) which falls into the gravity of the collapse simply joins the party.

That's a black hole. not a hole (an empty space) but the opposite, an area with more stuff than it can hold while still adhering to newtonian physics of our mechanical universe. Again, kinda like burning man.
 

rmx

Member
Conversely, some systems are so divergent that the electrons will refuse to readily move from one molecule to another (dudes dont go to celine dion concerts) except under the influence of a more powerful force (girlfriend withholding sexual congress)
:lol: rofl. I'm feeling a bit too spaced :eyesmoke:to go through this whole topic right now,, but I iwll return to piece it all togthere later!
 

Doer

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So, you and Kip Thorne disagree about what is a black hole. Isn't it more like Jazz swimming through eggshells to meet a Mafia Boss? :)

(please, no more silly analogies)
 
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