Do you know somthing called water?

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• http://www.ehow.com/about_6669342_magnetic-water-treatment-pools.html# Hard water is water filled with mineral ions. These mineral particles give water a clear, refreshing taste, but the mineral ions often bond to nearby surfaces as the water flows past. As a result, a pool filled with hard water quickly develops scale, or mineral stains that appear on the plaster and pipes and are very difficult to remove. The magnetic water device is designed to help get rid of these ions before they can do any damage.
  
  
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_water_treatment
  
  from what ive read it could be 23% yeild increse bye using 25% less water if you read into it in more depth,
  makes sense to me
  so..............................what do you think
  rep n post......................delvite
  
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.....................................................................................................any scientists on roll it up?.................... this doesnt just have an effect on plants

pretty cool vid man. after looking a bit, it seems like there's reasonable evidence to make it worth while. I'd gladly thank my water every day if it meant healthy, happy plants with bigger, tastier buds.

that is of course if the people who say it's total crap are wrong.

LOL.... wow... don't even know what to say to that but i stopped watching at 8:30 when they guy said positive emotions increased energy level and stabilized the water... It wasn't so much the emotion part just the physics part that was completely wrong. molecules with higher energy are much less stable. He said the opposite.


If you don't know what entropy is why should i even believe your argument. << to the video not the op

Did a lot of research on these things, there total B>S, the only thing they work on is removing the money from your wallet.

RyanTheRhino said:

LOL.... wow... don't even know what to say to that but i stopped watching at 8:30 when they guy said positive emotions increased energy level and stabilized the water... It wasn't so much the emotion part just the physics part that was completely wrong. molecules with higher energy are much less stable. He said the opposite.


If you don't know what entropy is why should i even believe your argument. << to the video not the op

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do you yourself not have an energy? is this energy affected by the way you feel? where does that energy go? ........................ just asking nice spotting on the prof we may have to tell him

mydixiewrecked said:

Did a lot of research on these things, there total B>S, the only thing they work on is removing the money from your wallet.

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lol i was expecting a more interlectual response than b/s im looking for parts of a complex puzzle

NnthStTrls said:

pretty cool vid man. after looking a bit, it seems like there's reasonable evidence to make it worth while. I'd gladly thank my water every day if it meant healthy, happy plants with bigger, tastier buds.

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we have to look further into things, every problem needs a basic starting point to be solved..........................why not start with somthing as old as water?

delvite said:

do you yourself not have an energy? is this energy affected by the way you feel? where does that energy go? ........................ just asking nice spotting on the prof we may have to tell him

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I have an ability to do work. Emotion may effect this ability by affecting my willingness to use energy, but the nature of the energy itself has not changed.

Heisenberg said:

I have an ability to do work. Emotion may effect this ability by affecting my willingness to use energy, but the nature of the energy itself has not changed.

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.....................is this not motivation

delvite said:

lol i was expecting a more interlectual response than b/s im looking for parts of a complex puzzle

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Descaling offers an alternative to water softening. Whereas a water softener removes the problem (minerals in the water), a descaler addresses the damage caused by the problem (scale buildup). You will sometimes see ads for "salt-free water softeners," which are actually descalers, or for magnetic water softeners, which remain unproven and don't change the chemical composition of water, so buyer beware [source: Powell].

• Posted by aliceinwonderland_id (My Page) on Tue, Jan 15, 08 at 9:27

Softening is a chemical process. Period. When hardness, in the form of calcium and magnesium ions, is dissolved in water, it has a positive charge (+2). As water is passed through a softner resin bed, those ions attached themselves to the resin, releasing 2 sodium ions (+1, each). Now the soft water no longer has hardness ions to create hard deposits in your appliances and on surfaces in your home. The salt you hate to lug(and no one likes to do it) is used to make a strong brine solution to regenerate the resin. As the strong brine passes over the resin, it forces the calcium a magnesium off of the resin and replaces them with sodium again, ready to soften more water.There is NO SUCH THING as electronic, magnetic or other voodoo softening. You cannot, by virtue of an electrical current or magnetic field, change the fundamental properties of a calcium ion to prevent it from causing scale, except for the exact location where the field is located. Once that water is heated up, in your hot water heater for instance, or the water is disturbed at all (running through your pipes will do it), you no longer have any effect at all from the magnetic field and you're right back where you started. Scaling. I find it particularly interesting that the company you are looking at does not in any way actually explain their "technology" nor do they list any companies they work with. Their pictures are bogus and unverified and their assertions are ridiculous. They are counting on the fact that most people do not know enough about water chemistry to realize their assertions are fundamentally flawed. My credentials: Chemical engineer with 10 years of water treatment experience. I have specified treatment for boilers and cooling water treatment for anything from small commercial units to huge industrial facilities. At all times before new treatment was allowed, the perspective water treatment companies had to prove their recommendations at the facility in question. Funny thing, but all of the no-salt "softener" folks refused a real-world test, every time, without exception. They all wanted me to purchase their systems without independent verification. Gee, I wonder why? You cannot soften water without removing the hardness.

okay mydixiewrecked, read this then come back please......................................[FONT=Arial, Helvetica]The Effects of Magnetite, Magnetic Water and Magnetic Monopoles on Plant Growth

By John V Milewski Ph D
December, 2006

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.............................do you still think aliceinwonderland is correct or are you going deeper into the rabbit hole

The only purpose of having something pass thorough a magnetic field is to induce a current. Non conductive materials would have little to no effect. Water is non conductive. Even when you add ions water its self is still non conductive. The oxygen atom is too electronegative for it to pass along electrons. If you put enough energy into water the water will give up a hydrogen but it still wont pass along electrons. The fact that mixing salts into water can complete a circuit does not mean water is conductive. what is happening is that the salts are free to float along and when they meetup with another one swimming around they can transfer electrons. this keeps happening until it reaches the other end of the pool. Water is a catalyst for this but not the cause. So to say that water can be magnetic just sounds silly because it cant pass a current.

A current can create a magnetic field & A magnetic field can induce a current. Both arguments must be followed ,a material can not do just one.

delvite said:

okay mydixiewrecked, read this then come back please......................................The Effects of Magnetite, Magnetic Water and Magnetic Monopoles on Plant Growth

By John V Milewski Ph D
December, 2006

.........................http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/magnetite.htm


.............................do you still think aliceinwonderland is correct or are you going deeper into the rabbit hole

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this is his evidence

What I think is happening is that the magnetite which is a strong magnetic suscepter is concentrating the earth's magnetic fields into it's cylindrical shape and the shape effect, in turn, sets up a magnetic spiral vortex in the core of the cylinder in which the water is stored. This in turn activates the water with the magnetic energy.

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sounds like a load of horseshit, is that interlectual enough for ya???

Magnetism and mysticism attract ... I believe the force constant is to the inverse fourth power of credulity. For some reason, magnets are ascribed magical powers ... just look at the brisk business in magnetic bracelets and other "health" jewelry.

Imo this is another magical magnet application. Metallic particles will only be attracted if they are ferrous, and ions (even paramagnetic ones) are much more influenced by thermal diffusion than by the rather weak forces a typical permanent magnet can bring to bear.

Delvite, into which more complex pattern/system are you trying to integrate this magnetic-treatment fun? cn

mydixiewrecked said:

this is his evidence
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sounds like a load of horseshit, is that interlectual enough for ya???

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...........................no, if i wanted to talk to a spoon id be at the cutlery drawer

cannabineer said:

Magnetism and mysticism attract ... I believe the force constant is to the inverse fourth power of credulity. For some reason, magnets are ascribed magical powers ... just look at the brisk business in magnetic bracelets and other "health" jewelry.

Imo this is another magical magnet application. Metallic particles will only be attracted if they are ferrous, and ions (even paramagnetic ones) are much more influenced by thermal diffusion than by the rather weak forces a typical permanent magnet can bring to bear.

Delvite, into which more complex pattern/system are you trying to integrate this magnetic-treatment fun? cn

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Hi cn, i read into alot of things ths one being the effects of magnitised water (magneto-hydro dynamical activisation not entophy ) on plants in particular. since reading deeper into this this has been proven to my mind

delvite said:

...........................no, if i wanted to talk to a spoon id be at the cutlery drawer



Hi cn, i read into alot of things ths one being the effects of magnitised water (magneto-hydro dynamical activisation not entophy ) on plants in particular. since reading deeper into this this has been proven to my mind

Advantages

1. Vegetation period decreases by 15-20 days, therefore the crops ripe 15-20 days earlier than normally.
2. Crop production increases from 15-20% to 100%, and in some cases, even more.
3. Plant disease rates drastically decrease.
4. Taste of agricultural products improves.
5. Approximately 30% less water is used for irrigation
6. Therefore 30% less energy is used in water pipes.
7. Sea water (salty water) can be used for watering (from 6-8 thousand PPM inclusive) and for some cultures, very salty water can be used (from 15 thousand inclusive).
8. By magnetizing seeds before sowing and by irrigating them with magnetic water, the need for crop material decreases by min. 30%.
9. Average of 30% decrease in fertilizer consumption.
10. Active soil desalination takes place, increasing crop production year after year

..............................if you read into it you will find this true, please dont ask me to
explain tonight my head is pounding off this screen

now the grand scheme i thought of while i cracked this watr prob...................

.....................Water covers 71% of the Earth's surface and the earth is a big magnet is it not?
theorists say that water takes on the imprint energy it come into contact with?
is water the key to documenting universal energy forms
or is it part of a bigger infinate enigma to unlock?

................................now im confused
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um,o.k, your the one running your water thru magnets and I'm the spoon. Must be a uk thing, your a fork.

mydixiewrecked said:

um,o.k, your the one running your water thru magnets and I'm the spoon. Must be a uk thing, your a fork.

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......................no one can make you understand anything, i understand this and i hope you to will in time

delvite said:

......................no one can make you understand anything, i understand this and i hope you to will in time

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maybe use that magic water to brush your tooth with.