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jberry said:

how much N are you using mex?

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Thanks for replys guys

I have been using canadian express coco nutrients from day 1
Vegging in 1 gallon pot with canadian express coco grow a&b nutrients/nitrozyme/and occasional seeweed solution maybe once a month.which 1 time had a problem with nute burn, i flushed and came back within a day or so.

have had ph sitting between 5.8-6.0 and using chlorine filtered water.

before budding when the plants were about 3 foot i transplanted into 2 gallon pots changed the light cycle to 12/12
Using canadian express coco bloom a&b/black magic mega bud/superior potash. running same ph etc. always allowing runoff of at least ten percent and waiting til the pot doesnt feel like there is any water (its light)

Anything else i need to say about it?

I think the problem came after i read that nutrients get locked out at ph6 and under in coco so i raised to 6.5 for one day and this happened so stopped. but this doesnt look like flucuation.

aeviaanah said:

il tell you what is going on with your plant, it is dying! we need a more detailed report of what you have done throughout the grow. post with the most detailed explanation of how you are growing this plant. the next questions that are about to come are all regarding this.

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sorry gave this info to someone else was ment for your question. let me know if anything else needed

I have been using canadian express coco nutrients from day 1
Vegging in 1 gallon pot with canadian express coco grow a&b nutrients/nitrozyme/and occasional seeweed solution maybe once a month.which 1 time had a problem with nute burn, i flushed and came back within a day or so.

have had ph sitting between 5.8-6.0 and using chlorine filtered water.

before budding when the plants were about 3 foot i transplanted into 2 gallon pots changed the light cycle to 12/12
Using canadian express coco bloom a&b/black magic mega bud/superior potash. running same ph etc. always allowing runoff of at least ten percent and waiting til the pot doesnt feel like there is any water (its light)

Anything else i need to say about it?

I think the problem came after i read that nutrients get locked out at ph6 and under in coco so i raised to 6.5 for one day and this happened so stopped. but this doesnt look like flucuation.

mex2425 said:

Thanks for replys guys

I have been using canadian express coco nutrients from day 1
Vegging in 1 gallon pot with canadian express coco grow a&b nutrients/nitrozyme/and occasional seeweed solution maybe once a month.which 1 time had a problem with nute burn, i flushed and came back within a day or so.

have had ph sitting between 5.8-6.0 and using chlorine filtered water.

before budding when the plants were about 3 foot i transplanted into 2 gallon pots changed the light cycle to 12/12
Using canadian express coco bloom a&b/black magic mega bud/superior potash. running same ph etc. always allowing runoff of at least ten percent and waiting til the pot doesnt feel like there is any water (its light)

Anything else i need to say about it?

I think the problem came after i read that nutrients get locked out at ph6 and under in coco so i raised to 6.5 for one day and this happened so stopped. but this doesnt look like flucuation.

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Sounds like you just diagnosed it, fertilizer burn along with wild pH flux. Not much to do but continue with a mild fert regiment, no additives for a while pHed @ 5.8 and see how they do from there.

NewGrowth said:

My guess would be a little too much . . .

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^^^This plants cycle^^^

It is getting just as much as my other girls with the same feeding regament. all the same size all in same pots using the same nutes from the same mixing tank.
should i stop using potash? has that got nitro in it?

what's your view? reckon you've ever seen this.

Ive done close to 11 grows now and never seen anything like it.

mex2425 said:

^^^This plants cycle^^^

It is getting just as much as my other girls with the same feeding regament. all the same size all in same pots using the same nutes from the same mixing tank.
should i stop using potash? has that got nitro in it?

what's your view? reckon you've ever seen this.

Ive done close to 11 grows now and never seen anything like it.

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Must be mainly a pH issue then, unless this strain is less nutrient tolerant.

NewGrowth said:

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Sounds like you just diagnosed it, fertilizer burn along with wild pH flux. Not much to do but continue with a mild fert regiment, no additives for a while pHed @ 5.8 and see how they do from there.

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Sorry didnt see reply so you think should stop the potash and carry on with the a&b + maga bud fert
Or just a&b
I have been giving it quat strenght of a&b+mega bud since happened.

See this is what i originally thought but it just doesnt look like either of them! that i've ever seen anyway.

Anyway thanks alot for help great when people take time to help out us rookies mate +REP

it looks like N overdose at first glance but based on what u said, i think your problem is from under watering along with when you raised the PH to 6.5 (looks like it could be a fluctuation to me, but idk).... could be both of those along with additional problems like possible overdose and or lock out.

try watering a day sooner then you usually would.... consistantly watering coco at the incorrect time could easily cause many problems like the ones u have. Coco is hydro, so you dont want it to dry to the point of being light... you want there to be a decent percentage of water in the coco at all times. (50 percent of the amount of water the coco will hold is the correct time to water)

these are just my guesses tho, im not saying im certain of exactly whats going on.

jberry said:

it looks like N overdose at first glance but based on what u said, i think your problem is from under watering along with when you raised the PH to 6.5 (looks like it could be a fluctuation to me, but idk).... could be both of those along with additional problems like possible overdose and or lock out.

try watering a day sooner then you usually would.... consistantly watering coco at the incorrect time could easily cause many problems like the ones u have. Coco is hydro, so you dont want it to dry to the point of being light... you want there to be a decent percentage of water in the coco at all times. (50 percent of the amount of water the coco will hold is the correct time to water)

these are just my guesses tho, im not saying im certain of exactly whats going on.

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++++REP have one on me

Just to add my coco kinda looks like soil being quite fine with 10-20% perlite

this being my first grow since swapping to coco from soil and i had no idea about the watering i got told to let it dry then feed let it dry then feed and so on.. Are you sure about this overwater technique? do you use this?

plus should i start doing this now? or should i just pull the plant early and concentrate on my other plants. (some pics are in my profile)

yes i am sure that you shouldnt let coco dry out...

water when the container looses 50%
of the maximum water it will hold against gravity (immediately
after drainage of a newly watered container).
Correctly this is done by weight and yes it does change
with time, root mass, humidity, temperature and growers
temperament (thumb on scale syndrome).

use this method to water and you will have much better results... it doesnt have to be perfect, but this is what you should shoot for.

and yes, i would start doing it now, but it may take a short amount of time for the roots to adjust and for you to see benefits.

jberry said:

yes i am sure that you shouldnt let coco dry out...

water when the container looses 50%
of the maximum water it will hold against gravity (immediately
after drainage of a newly watered container).
Correctly this is done by weight and yes it does change
with time, root mass, humidity, temperature and growers
temperament (thumb on scale syndrome).

use this method to water and you will have much better results... it doesnt have to be perfect, but this is what you should shoot for.

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jberry is right, my plants suffer when the coco dries

jberry said:

yes i am sure that you shouldnt let coco dry out...

water when the container looses 50%
of the maximum water it will hold against gravity (immediately
after drainage of a newly watered container).
Correctly this is done by weight and yes it does change
with time, root mass, humidity, temperature and growers
temperament (thumb on scale syndrome).

use this method to water and you will have much better results... it doesnt have to be perfect, but this is what you should shoot for.

and yes, i would start doing it now, but it may take a short amount of time for the roots to adjust and for you to see benefits.

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Thankyou very much!! you are so helpfull i will continue this from tonight onwards, this sounds like it will be alot easier for me to and possibly have a little more leanienscy in over/underwatering in coco as aposed to soil. If so i just fell in love for the same girl twice haha and her name coco

mex2425 said:

Thankyou very much!! you are so helpfull i will continue this from tonight onwards, this sounds like it will be alot easier for me to and possibly have a little more leanienscy in over/underwatering in coco as aposed to soil. If so i just fell in love for the same girl twice haha and her name coco

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ya thanks for the help. guys

I just stumbled across this thread and have enjoyed reading it.

My coir source is Hydro-Gardens, Colorado Springs, CO. They are into commercial hydroponics / greenhouse systems.

But they have a very good coir system.
The coir comes in its own growing bag. Just wet it to expand it, plant and grow.

check out http://hydro-gardens.com/growing_medias.htm#EZGro

Their sprayer stakes and dripper stakes are worth looking at. Read how they do a commercial greenhouse tomato or cucumber system. What they do large scale, we can do small scale...

I am looking into their hydroponic nutrient mixes. You can make a 1000 gallons for $200.00. They have all the chemicals for customizing your own blend.

Grow Over

that cheese is gorgeous

do u guys reuse ur coco medium..if so do u ph the water ur flushing it with...bout to try to reuse some medium and i dont wanna fuck it up

has anyone ever used coco medium.....or have u used monster grow or monster bloom...made from grotek...and if so can anyone let me know if it worked better....because i use fox farm and im tired of it...i want to use different thigs or nutrients for better yield....

FROGGYONER said:

has anyone ever used coco medium.....or have u used monster grow or monster bloom...made from grotek...and if so can anyone let me know if it worked better....because i use fox farm and im tired of it...i want to use different thigs or nutrients for better yield....

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im growing with coco now after switching from soil. Way easier to monitor water levels. I'm using Canna A/B, Rhizozyme, Cannazyme, and PK 13/14. It's not organic...then again what is these days? I'm having success with it. Water doesnt even have to be ph'ed. I do filter it through a brita to remove the chlorine.

You can re-use coco at least 3 times er so depending on your growing nutrient choice.

im re using coco so far no bad results this will be the third time ive re used

HarvestHighway said:

im growing with coco now after switching from soil. Way easier to monitor water levels. I'm using Canna A/B, Rhizozyme, Cannazyme, and PK 13/14. It's not organic...then again what is these days? I'm having success with it. Water doesnt even have to be ph'ed. I do filter it through a brita to remove the chlorine.

You can re-use coco at least 3 times er so depending on your growing nutrient choice.

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if your ph comes out at the correct range without PH'ing then you are lucky!

it always nice when u can adjust your water and nutes to come out right because adding a bunch of PH down/up is not very desirable.

5.7 - 6.0 seems best.

Don Gin and Ton said:

im re using coco so far no bad results this will be the third time ive re used

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i asked canna what the downfalls of using the coco longer than 1 year was, and they told me that the coco will have less and less oxygen as it breaks down, and a year is about how long the coco will hold a acceptable amount of oxygen.

maybe after 2-3 runs you could keep using it if you started to add in some perlite? -thats what i would do if i were to use it for more than 2 cycles