Club 600 Breeding Showcase

DST

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that my friend can only be determined through breeding out I am afraid.

Ruderalis is a strain or putative species (i.e a supposed seperate species of MJ -others would be indica, sativa) Think about the different things that make up a plant type, Structure, Colour, THC level, Growth, Vigour, Colour, Flowering perdiod or light sensitivity, etc. The plant has 10 chromosones and subsequent breeding would produce a plant with 10 chromosone from each parent (two genotypes) The parents will have recessive and dominant traits, what I was trying to say is one of those 10 building blocks within a ruderali relates to it's flowering and light, I would hazard a guess at this building block being Dominant, not ruderalis as a strain being dominant (just that particular building block within ruderalis.) To get real accurate percentages you are talking about planting a lot of seeds....

BOOOOOOM. so youre saying that ruderalis is recessive or dominant? and also does anyone know which is more dominant sativa or indica?

and also my autoflower is ruderalis/indica/sativa but im guessing its 50% ruderalis, 25 indica and 25 sativa, now if i breed it to 50% ruderalis and 50% indica, ill have 12.5% sativa, 32.5% indica and 55% ruderalis?

so my real question is what genes are recessive and dominant?
 

duchieman

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Hey guys. Looks like I have some catching up to do here too. I uploaded a vid of my tent on the 600 and my thread if you guys would like to check that out and I still have some pics to upload there. In the meantime in regards to breeding, the blessed Sunday conception took place between Jack B and Jackie E. May they be abundant with healthy fruit. :)

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The chosen ones
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:peace: Duchie
 

DST

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Hey peeps, here are my Engineers Dreams. Hopefully this strain is going to be some nice smoke and worthwhile to breed. The parent strains are certainlyboth very nice. Anyway, I have 3 to test the smoke from, hopefully I can decide from that, haha. I think I would rather base my goals on the smash that you are going to get from the weed. A weed can look, well like a weed to me, as long as it gives you what you need then that's the place to aim for. Without further gubbing off...the pics

Group Shots



Left to right



middle






I think the middle, although stretchier, looks more like the Casey, but it's hard to tell, they have all been put into different pots, pot shape determines a lot I think in how you rplant will look if left to grow au natural. They look fairly like the DPQ's as well when you look at them from above. Quite long leaves and reasonably slender on top. Colourwise the buds are like the CJ's with the heavy trichome factor of the DPQ..good combo so far me tinks.

And mr west, I am sure I could see seeds in your pics!.

Peace, DSt
 

littlegrower2004

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i would choose number 1 or the left. but im looking at the size of the nug and the density that it looks like has compared to the other two. it also seems to have better structure reaching from the top down to the bottom. seems like your looking for more of the Casey appearance though to make it more consistent and breed true.
 

ONEeyedWILLY444

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I'm with don on this. No.3 leafs have that dark shiny greenness that screams dank. But appearance is not everything as we all know.
 

DST

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No 3 is def a slight deeper colour, but no 2 is leaning for a reason, the bud is fat and heavy, as well as the vigour being like that of a Casey (prob the Thai in it) But when you look at the group shot the leaning one also has the dark slender top leaves on top, but slightly lighter lower fan leaves...The middle also had the worst mites in it's defense. We shall see how they progress, they were all done 12/12 as well. I think they all will be nice to smoke anyway, lol.
 

genuity

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ive been given them open sesame(fox farm),for the last week..
from L-R:#1#2#3

#1

#2

#3

as of righ now i see #1&#2 being females,and maybe #3,hope not..

man D,that ED is a real looker...
 

Dezracer

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I found 18 nice looking seeds while jarring up the Afghan buds and popped them out before puting the buds in the jar. Is there anything I need to know about getting these seeds ready to germinate? For now they are in a little blue glass jar but wasn't sure what to do with them. I'd like to germ a few of them to see how it turned out and would like to hang on to the others for a bit.
 

mr west

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And mr west, I am sure I could see seeds in your pics!.


its just as well cuz the boy has had it lol im gonna kill it proppr tomoz lol
 

Tragik92

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I found 18 nice looking seeds while jarring up the Afghan buds and popped them out before puting the buds in the jar. Is there anything I need to know about getting these seeds ready to germinate? For now they are in a little blue glass jar but wasn't sure what to do with them. I'd like to germ a few of them to see how it turned out and would like to hang on to the others for a bit.
make sure you dry them out good more of them will be viable
 

Tragik92

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Hey peeps, here are my Engineers Dreams. Hopefully this strain is going to be some nice smoke and worthwhile to breed. The parent strains are certainlyboth very nice. Anyway, I have 3 to test the smoke from, hopefully I can decide from that, haha. I think I would rather base my goals on the smash that you are going to get from the weed. A weed can look, well like a weed to me, as long as it gives you what you need then that's the place to aim for. Without further gubbing off...the pics

Group Shots



Left to right



middle






I think the middle, although stretchier, looks more like the Casey, but it's hard to tell, they have all been put into different pots, pot shape determines a lot I think in how you rplant will look if left to grow au natural. They look fairly like the DPQ's as well when you look at them from above. Quite long leaves and reasonably slender on top. Colourwise the buds are like the CJ's with the heavy trichome factor of the DPQ..good combo so far me tinks.

And mr west, I am sure I could see seeds in your pics!.

Peace, DSt
i definitely like the way number 3 looks with the leaves and vigor but number 1 has some nice looking buds
 

duchieman

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Finally had a good look at your 3 ED's DST. Before looking at other responses I would say 2 for bud and 3 for plant color and structure, particularly leaves. My 2 cents.
 

duchieman

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By the way guys, I keep meaning to ask a question about Mychorrizae. I've learned that they're not chemical nute friendly and pretty much require an organic garden to use them, which is not a problem with me cause I'm heading that way anyway. I just got thinking about soils, starter types in particular, with included nutes would probably not be a good idea. Then there was the mite issue going on and and the mention of diatomaceous earth, and I learned that it is an antifungal, which I'm guessing would not be good for Mychs either. But I'm sure when your fighting mites that you probably have to take casualties and cut your losses. So I guess it's not really a question as much as me sharing something and looking for feedback. :)
 

ENDLSCYCLE

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All OMRI listed is my next switch....was gonna give hydro a go,since I made 4 bubble buckets and a controller for recirculating DWC like 2 fkn years ago......but I love soil.....Wanna try out the International House of Guano.
 

DST

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hey duchie, with DE I was not aware of that, do you think the fact that it is sprinked on top of the soil is going to effect the fungus that badly?

I have found that with myccorhizae it certainly makes your plants stronger against the attack of mites so I would agree with the fact that when that happens, you just got to do what you got to do. Using organic nutes I can't really comment on their relationship with chemical fertilisers, but I would imagine chemical fertilisers have their own deliver systems within their formula.

Peace, DST
 

duchieman

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The info about the chemical ferts I learned for sure. The DE thing I'm back tracking to confirm, all I read is that it was an antifungal and that set the bells off, but now I can't seem to find it again. As far as a using just a little I wouldn't know for sure, I mean it does get watered in, but then were diluting, yada, yada....Either way I'm still searching for mychs, it just makes sense. Tend to your Mychs needs, they tend to the roots needs, they tend the plants needs, they tend the buds needs, and finally the buds tend your needs, so that you can tend to your Mychs again. "And the wheels on the bus go round and round...
 
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