Capitalism 2.0 Will Include a Healthy Dose of Socialism

potroastV2

potroastV2

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ttystikk said:
Lol

Such drivel.

AOC is already incredibly popular, even though she isn't running for president. Anyone she endorsed will get a huge boost.

American voters realized just how badly the Sanders campaign was treated and punished the DNC and the Democratic Party for it.

It remains to be seen if the establishment Democrats running those organisations learned their lesson- or care if they lose.
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Thanks for putting a title on your post ...


I agree, it is drivel. :lol:


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Sativied

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Fogdog said:
What makes this plan radical is the radical left's expectation of the speed of enacting this shit plan into law along with the lack of detail in the legislation. Bernies plan would radically alter a quarter of the US's economy and was released with no detail on how it would be run or funded. It was released this way because the Radical Left has no patience or desire to participate in governing. They want to rule.
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That sure sums it up nicely...

Which ironically means radical progressives get in the way of the progress they claim to want. Similar to Trump getting in the way of improving border security and addressing real immigration concens by demanding a radical wall. Politics in a democracy means compromising, something Bernie’s activists are not familiar with. As they’ve shown, if they can’t have their way, they will help elect Trump.

I don’t hear Americans seriously discuss the possibility of splitting up the union so apparently you plan to continue to live in the same country together, magats included. Which is a bit weird, because you show no solidarity towards each other when it comes to health or even clean water. But if that’s the plan, the only option to oppose Trump is a centrist. Biden would be the best option to restore international relations. Biden/Harris or Harris/Biden.

DIY-HP-LED said:
If you go too far to the left in the current American political environment too quickly, it will alienate the majority of the country. I'm for all of the things you described above and live in a country where single payer health care and living wages are a reality and higher education is affordable. Soon we will be in a social environment where these things are a given in a normal democratic society, but America is not there yet.
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My thoughts exactly. It only works and stays if you get the people on board, and more than just a small winning majority in the primaries. Hopefully some day Americans will too understand affordable healthcare is like roads and a fire department not “left” or “socialism” but humanistic, ethical, moral and actually better for the economy and welfare for everyone.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Sativied said:
That sure sums it up nicely...

Which ironically means radical progressives get in the way of the progress they claim to want. Similar to Trump getting in the way of improving border security and addressing real immigration concens by demanding a radical wall. Politics in a democracy means compromising, something Bernie’s activists are not familiar with. As they’ve shown, if they can’t have their way, they will help elect Trump.

I don’t hear Americans seriously discuss the possibility of splitting up the union so apparently you plan to continue to live in the same country together, magats included. Which is a bit weird, because you show no solidarity towards each other when it comes to health or even clean water. But if that’s the plan, the only option to oppose Trump is a centrist. Biden would be the best option to restore international relations. Biden/Harris or Harris/Biden.


My thoughts exactly. It only works and stays if you get the people on board, and more than just a small winning majority in the primaries. Hopefully some day Americans will too understand affordable healthcare is like roads and a fire department not “left” or “socialism” but humanistic, ethical, moral and actually better for the economy and welfare for everyone.
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Our chance of getting rid of Southerners ended at Appomattox.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
what world do you live in tty? aoc is incredibly popular? where? maybe in the five foot circle immediately surrounding you....the fucking hillbillies here don't even know who she is....if they're aware of her at all, she's an "uppity mexican"......and that, of course, is fucked up.......but it's still the way they are....you badly need to take a trip cross country in a crappy rental car, wearing cheap clothes. go to crappy bars and cheap diners...go to laundromats.....go to family dollar and dollar general...go to thrift stores.....and in all of these places, ask people about who they support politically....the few coherent answers you get will surprise you...i guarantee it......you make huge assumptions about what poor people want...and i'm pretty fucking sure you've never been poor tty...so you have no clue what poor people really want....i live with the mother fuckers....i know what they want....and it ain't AOC.....
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She's the most popular during politician in Congress.

Because she does what We the People want her to; speaking truth to power.

Show us anyone else in Congress with 2.5 MILLION followers on social media!
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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ttystikk said:
She's the most popular during politician in Congress.

Because she does what We the People want her to; speaking truth to power.

Show us anyone else in Congress with 2.5 MILLION followers on social media!
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thta's your metric? they must be successful if people like them on facebook?............................you are rapidly losing ALL credence....and are eroding what respect i had for you....i'm starting to feel that you are not one of WE the people....i'm starting to feel like you're an entitled rich kid whose trying to pretend you're "one of us"....while you go home to your condo in your prius every night and worry about your 401k....
consider that trip i suggested....and leave your credit cards at home when you go....learn how to live like one of us.....wash dishes for a few days, then move on.....wait tables for a few days...then move on.....shovel shit for a few days...(i thought i'd put in at least one thing you seem to be qualified for)
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
thta's your metric? they must be successful if people like them on facebook?............................you are rapidly losing ALL credence....and are eroding what respect i had for you....i'm starting to feel that you are not one of WE the people....i'm starting to feel like you're an entitled rich kid whose trying to pretend you're "one of us"....while you go home to your condo in your prius every night and worry about your 401k....
consider that trip i suggested....and leave your credit cards at home when you go....learn how to live like one of us.....wash dishes for a few days, then move on.....wait tables for a few days...then move on.....shovel shit for a few days...(i thought i'd put in at least one thing you seem to be qualified for)
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Holy shit, you know nothing about me or my finances. The rich entitled one here is Buckwit, by marriage. That's why he's the establishment shill.

If you want to have a discussion about economics, let's have one.

Making personal attacks just telegraphs the fact that you have no argument- much like the rest of the peanut gallery here.

You're smarter than that, don't stoop to their level.
 
Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
Holy shit, you know nothing about me or my finances. The rich entitled one here is Buckwit, by marriage. That's why he's the establishment shill.

If you want to have a discussion about economics, let's have one.

Making personal attacks just telegraphs the fact that you have no argument- much like the rest of the peanut gallery here.

You're smarter than that, don't stoop to their level.
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Unclebaldrick

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ttystikk said:
Holy shit, you know nothing about me or my finances. The rich entitled one here is Buckwit, by marriage. That's why he's the establishment shill.

If you want to have a discussion about economics, let's have one.

Making personal attacks just telegraphs the fact that you have no argument- much like the rest of the peanut gallery here.

You're smarter than that, don't stoop to their level.
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So what do you do for a living? Are you producing anything for the thousands of legal dispensaries in Colorado? No. I've seen your crop and I know that none of them have a market for what you grow.

Regardless of Buck's marital situation, he grows superior weed than you and yet he actually gets his ass out of his house and works for a living.

Renounce your grand-dad's money, donate it to Bernie and go earn a living.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Unclebaldrick said:
So what do you do for a living? Are you producing anything for the thousands of legal dispensaries in Colorado? No. I've seen your crop and I know that none of them have a market for what you grow.

Regardless of Buck's marital situation, he grows superior weed than you and yet he actually gets his ass out of his house and works for a living.

Renounce your grand-dad's money, donate it to Bernie and go earn a living.
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Oh look- another fact free rant full of personal attacks.

We already know you've lost the argument and have nothing to add.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Unclebaldrick said:
Fact free? I have seen your weed. You live in a legal state and have no job. Is there a single dispensary that carries your product? Yes or no?
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Colorado law does not allow for private grows to supply dispensaries.

The rest is just as fact free.

Keep following me around and maybe you'll get a treat.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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ttystikk said:
Colorado law does not allow for private grows to supply dispensaries.

The rest is just as fact free.

Keep following me around and maybe you'll get a treat.
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So no.

But also, Colorado dispensaries don't sell ditchweed. I am just speaking truth to losers.

Donate the rest of grand-dad's money to Bernie.

Get a fucking job.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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ttystikk said:
Holy shit, you know nothing about me or my finances. The rich entitled one here is Buckwit, by marriage. That's why he's the establishment shill.

If you want to have a discussion about economics, let's have one.

Making personal attacks just telegraphs the fact that you have no argument- much like the rest of the peanut gallery here.

You're smarter than that, don't stoop to their level.
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i'm not stooping to anyone level, i'm telling you what i think. you occasionally frustrate me to the point i have to vent a little.....
no, i don't know anything about you or your finances tty. i'm making an assumption, based on what i perceive, and the little information i do posses. you keep making statements about what "the people" want. i'm one of the people, and i don't want a damn thing you say i do....i live with "the people"...i have my whole life...my parent's were working people. they provided me and my sisters a good upbringing, but they were not wealthy. my mom started a maid service, and eventually had 3 women working for her, who she paid way better than minimum wage. my dad was a mechanic for cummins diesel for years, won a lot of awards, got paid pretty good...for a grease monkey.
so while i didn't grow up in the ghetto, i wasn't one of the privileged few.
i worked in restaurants and factories, taught myself how to do leather work, got a job at a saddlery. got a job in a monument plant and learned how to carve stone, then taught myself how to carve wood...
the point to this is that i'm one of the common people...and you don't speak for me....i do not want the things you say "the common man" wants....the "common man" is as likely to hate trump as he is to love him....and they'll be passionate, either way. they try to understand politics, but most of them don't have the time to actually understand it. they have to go to work and take care of their families, which leaves them precious little time to read informative articles about the candidates. so they watch the news, and talk to their friends, and that's where they get their opinions....so if you really want to influence the common man, go to the corner bar and by a few rounds after work on friday evening, then they might be interested in your opinions. otherwise, most of them are way too busy trying to get by to give a shit about anyone's opinions...but also...be prepared to get chased out of the bar, and possibly punched....socialist aren't very popular with the common man...most of them translate "socialist" as "pushy commie"....
 
potroastV2

potroastV2

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Unclebaldrick said:
So no.

But also, Colorado dispensaries don't sell ditchweed. I am just speaking truth to losers.

Donate the rest of grand-dad's money to Bernie.

Get a fucking job.
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I'm sorry, but that was not what I saw. I was in Colorado Springs last year, and went to a dispensary. I bought an eighth of the best they had, and it was complete shit. The morons in the shop left all of the bud containers open, and the bud crumbled to dust with just a little squeeze. I smoked it anyway, and only got a slight buzz, never stoned.

I was embarrassed for the people of Colorado.


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