Bud porn..take a look!

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Start date May 17, 2013

TrichomeBob

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#81

I personally could give two shits what people say, you can call me a noob or whatever, the fact is the way I grow is perfectly fine, basically what I said, everyone else ends up saying.
leaching or flushing whatever u want to call it, I stop feeding my plants around ten days before chop, sometimes I may feed some if they look like they need it, but if I know I'm gonna chop within a few days I don't bother.
i said amber trichomes aren't bad, which their not, some people want the certain properties that late harvests bring. Some just like the effect.

so showing me some trichome page from a mag that actually says what I believe, and then saying I'm wrong, is just moronic.

Showing me some article that Sensi wrote, doesn't mean shit either, if we believe everything they say, we wouldn't even be arguing as the guy would have chopped his plants over a week before he posted.
ive smoked weed a few times from plants I've had to chop without slowing down on nutes and it didn't taste as good, just my opinion.

so instead of just posting other people's articles, pages or whatever why don't u give us some of our experience, dickhead.

i can find articles by very influential doctors that says smoking marijuana will make u psychotic, doesn't mean it's true!

TrichomeBob

New Member

#82

Uncle Ben said:
I have and regularly use a 18-4-9 from start to finish. It's what cannabis likes, in soil.

I could post a dozen articles claiming this statement is wrong, by people a lot more knowledgeable than Sensi seeds, doesn't mean ur wrong, but it doesn't mean ur right either!

after reading some of your posts anyway, I wouldn't want to learn anything U know, I don't make a regular habit of adding thing so my weed tastes different, I prefer the natural taste.
i suppose your the type of grower that adds food flavourings too, to hide your shitty tasting weed!

Kite High

Well-Known Member

#83

TrichomeBob said:
I personally could give two shits what people say, you can call me a noob or whatever, the fact is the way I grow is perfectly fine, basically what I said, everyone else ends up saying.
leaching or flushing whatever u want to call it, I stop feeding my plants around ten days before chop, sometimes I may feed some if they look like they need it, but if I know I'm gonna chop within a few days I don't bother.
i said amber trichomes aren't bad, which their not, some people want the certain properties that late harvests bring. Some just like the effect.

so showing me some trichome page from a mag that actually says what I believe, and then saying I'm wrong, is just moronic.

Showing me some article that Sensi wrote, doesn't mean shit either, if we believe everything they say, we wouldn't even be arguing as the guy would have chopped his plants over a week before he posted.
ive smoked weed a few times from plants I've had to chop without slowing down on nutes and it didn't taste as good, just my opinion.

so instead of just posting other people's articles, pages or whatever why don't u give us some of our experience, dickhead.

i can find articles by very influential doctors that says smoking marijuana will make u psychotic, doesn't mean it's true!

TrichomeBob said:
I could post a dozen articles claiming this statement is wrong, by people a lot more knowledgeable than Sensi seeds, doesn't mean ur wrong, but it doesn't mean ur right either!

after reading some of your posts anyway, I wouldn't want to learn anything U know, I don't make a regular habit of adding thing so my weed tastes different, I prefer the natural taste.
i suppose your the type of grower that adds food flavourings too, to hide your shitty tasting weed!

Darkliquid

Member

#84

to hell with all you people telling other people are doing their method wrong! you are not them. just because this worked for you doesnt mean this will work for them. so many dependences on that. so tired of seeing that, pretty much all i see on this forum and others. WEED IS NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE ALL YOU CAN DO IS GO WITH WHAT WORKS FOR YOU. when i tell people my method and how i grow, which isnt professional by any means because i am still new, i dont claim to know all. maybe you all should do the same.

TrichomeBob

New Member

#85

Haha, I remember when EVERYONE involved in the cannabis community got along, now tell me legalisation is good for marijuana!
at least when it was 'illegal' It stopped all the children thinking their the next Jorge Cervantes!

Uncle Ben

Well-Known Member

#86

Darkliquid said:
to hell with all you people telling other people are doing their method wrong! you are not them. just because this worked for you doesnt mean this will work for them. so many dependences on that. so tired of seeing that, pretty much all i see on this forum and others. WEED IS NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE ALL YOU CAN DO IS GO WITH WHAT WORKS FOR YOU. when i tell people my method and how i grow, which isnt professional by any means because i am still new, i dont claim to know all. maybe you all should do the same.

Master gardeners like me and Kite High give you advice based on many years of experience. We're horticulturists, folks that practice botanical principles, and if we 'tell' you that the product you're using is snake oil or give you some advice that will improve your gardening methods, you'd be wise to listen.

Delivery of the nutes, or light, or water, or temps, etc. is not the issue. Whether it's hydro, soil, or soiless, the plant doesn't care as long as it has its basic cultural needs taken care of that mimic its natural environment....see my Tweaks. Some of you ignore plant nutrition while throwing around meaningless nute labels. Learn what makes a plant tick, get wise and learn plant nutrition, and stop trying to make something so simple as confusing and complicated as you can.

Here's what Jorge thinks of me

Sir.Ganga

New Member

#87

NietzscheKeen said:
If I can just put my two cents in. I'm kinda late with this post. Regarding flushing, my great great-grandfather, my great-grandfather, and my grandfather grew tobacco as one of their cash crops. I asked my grandfather if they ever "flushed" their plants. He didn't know what I was talking about, so I explained it to him. His response was "why would you do that? You water them the entire time." I explained to him that it made the tobacco taste better because it flushed out all the nasty nutrients, so the tobacco tastes and burns better. He looked at me like I was retarded. He told me that he has never known anyone to do that. I understand that tobacco and cannabis are two different things, but I assume they are similar enough that if tobacco doesn't need to be flushed, then neither does cannabis.

It's cannabis, not crawfish. The only "flush" I do is when I uproot an entire plant that is going to take a while to clip. I set it in a bucket with some air stones and a tiny bit of Microbe Brew. It's a "flush" by default, not as a rule. Besides, I flushed a few of my plants before, after a mix up with fertilizers, and I was horrified at what I saw the next day. The plants that were flushed were obviously stressed and their growth was slowed compared to the ones that weren't flushed. Leaves began to yellow and they curled up.

Pretty hard flushing a field...IMO...My granddaddy said flyin is for the birds "retard".....Some peoples kids!

HeartlandHank

Well-Known Member

#88

Uncle Ben said:
Master gardeners like me and Kite High

MG here. I wouldn't lead nobody wrong neither. haha.

Sir.Ganga

New Member

#89

Uncle Ben said:
Master gardeners like me and Kite High give you advice based on many years of experience. We're horticulturists, folks that practice botanical principles, and if we 'tell' you that the product you're using is snake oil or give you some advice that will improve your gardening methods, you'd be wise to listen.

Delivery of the nutes, or light, or water, or temps, etc. is not the issue. Whether it's hydro, soil, or soiless, the plant doesn't care as long as it has its basic cultural needs taken care of that mimic its natural environment....see my Tweaks. You kids ignore plant nutrition while throwing around meaningless nute labels. Learn what makes a plant ticke, get wise and learn plant nutrition, and stop trying to make something so simple as confusing and complicated as you can.

Here's what Jorge thinks of me

Self PROCLAIMED master gardeners Gives bad outdated advise. Man your full of yourself! WOW. Master something alright. With what your slinging these days Jorge would walk the other way if he ever saw you again! O'boy you got a signature on a book...did ya help him with his zipper. This is what we think of you here in the real cannabis world.

It's getting real boring already...now get over yourself.

HeartlandHank

Well-Known Member

#90

Uncle Ben said:
stop trying to make something so simple as confusing and complicated as you can.

Air
Water
Nutrients
Light

It really is that simple.

HeartlandHank

Well-Known Member

#91

Sir.Ganga said:
Self PROCLAIMED master gardeners Gives bad outdated advise. Man your full of yourself! WOW. Master something alright. With what your slinging these days Jorge would walk the other way if he ever saw you again! O'boy you got a signature on a book...did ya help him with his zipper. This is what we think of you here in the real cannabis world.View attachment 2671082It's getting real boring already...now get over yourself.

Sir Ganja, Master Gadener is a position with the county. Master Gardeners are selected and trained.
Some counties let anyone in, some are very selective.
In my county, every year, 300 people attend the info session, 200 apply, 75 are selected for an interview and 30 are chosen.
It is not self proclaimed. It's one of those things in the world of gardening that most MJ growers would not know about. It is a good way to get involved in your local scene, provide a service to the community and have access to great resources. People and literature.

Google "(your county) Master Gardener help desk"... you can call that number and ask any question you want. You can also get in touch with specialists, like your county entomologist, who can help you with identification of buggers. You can get soil samples analyzed, etc. Great resource. Free.

Here is the thing about advice from an MG who is on the clock... not only are MG's selected to know their shit.. but an MG cannot give you advice that does not have literature to back it up. So, an MG cannot give you advice based on a feeling or anything that has not been run through the scientific method. In other words, no bullshit from an MG.

Some MG's behind the phone at the help desk are more knowledgeable than others. But, I can almost guarantee you that even on a bad day, you will get better advice with that phone call than you would most days on RIU. Nothing against RIU.. it's just the way MJ growing is... lots of people playing botanist with very little experience in botany.

On the master gardeners page you can find free seminars, demos, stuff like that. These folks know their stuff. Wish we had more of those folks here on RIU... in time. We're getting more and more young folks in the MGA in my county every year.

burgertime2010

Well-Known Member

#92

Uncle Ben said:
Master gardeners like me and Kite High give you advice based on many years of experience. We're horticulturists, folks that practice botanical principles, and if we 'tell' you that the product you're using is snake oil or give you some advice that will improve your gardening methods, you'd be wise to listen. Delivery of the nutes, or light, or water, or temps, etc. is not the issue. Whether it's hydro, soil, or soiless, the plant doesn't care as long as it has its basic cultural needs taken care of that mimic its natural environment....see my Tweaks. You kids ignore plant nutrition while throwing around meaningless nute labels. Learn what makes a plant ticke, get wise and learn plant nutrition, and stop trying to make something so simple as confusing and complicated as you can. Here's what Jorge thinks of me

[/QUOTE Snake Oil or Not? and Why? 1. Silica 2. Kelp 3.Humic acids 4. Carbohydrates 5.Mycorhizzae 6. Enzymes 7. Flower initiators. 8. Finishers. Do you reccommend using just a one-part of is it all just hype and bullshit? We all stand to learn here.

burgertime2010

Well-Known Member

#93

Snake Oil or Not? and Why? 1. Silica 2. Kelp 3.Humic acids 4. Carbohydrates 5.Mycorhizzae 6. Enzymes 7. Flower initiators. 8. Finishers. Do you recommend using just a one-part of is it all just hype and bullshit? We all stand to learn here.

NietzscheKeen

Well-Known Member

#94

I know this question wasn't for me, but I'm hoping for feedback as well.
I use 1., 2., 3., and 5. I don't know anything about the other stuff.

There are scientific papers and university studies stating the benefits of 1,2,3 and 5. 5, IMO, is only beneficial in organic growing. If you're using it in petroleum based products you are wasting your time and money as the mycos don't do well when mixed.

Silica helps protect your plant from a lot of problems. Heat, drought, disease, etc.
Kelp... I don't really know what the deal is with kelp, but I know it is used by quite a few agricultural universities... so that is good enough for me.
Humic acids are also beneficial especially if using a soilless medium. Humic acid is found in composted materials and is great for root development and ORGANIC nutrient uptake. I'm still unfamiliar with the last two, kelp and humic acid, so if I've given any incorrect information, I hope someone will correct me.

You can always google these and you will easily find pdfs published by universities.

Sir Ganga "Pretty hard flushing a field...IMO...My granddaddy said flyin is for the birds "retard".....Some peoples kids!"

I normally don't respond to personal insults, but lets leave the family out of it. I was merely making the point that a lot of what I've been taught has come from AT LEAST three generations of farming families. My grandfather is 84 years old and was walking behind a mule when he a kid. I tend to trust most of what he says as 70+ years of agricultural experience speaks for itself. Next time you eat a Mariani Sun-Dried tomato or Blueberries; there is a good chance you are eating something I've grown.

And in regards to flushing a field. We had an inlet from a nearby pond/river and could easily have "flushed" the plants if they wanted; so it can be done. It's called flood irrigation, lol.

HeartlandHank

Well-Known Member

#95

Neitz and Burger time...
I think another thing to ask yourself about those aside from snake oil or not snake oil is the return on investment...

How much are you paying for them and what are you getting in return?

I think for quite a few people the value of the product or what they are getting in return is a feeling. They feel like they have done something good for their plants; And yes, they really have done something good for their plants... but is it results worth $60 a bottle? Probably not. But the results + feeling, to them, is worth $60 a bottle.

If you don't get that "feeling" then most of them are prbly not worth $60/bottle.
That's just my opinion.

Some people just wanna spend money and feel like they are getting "the best".
It makes them feel good.

spitsbuds

Well-Known Member

#96

the only thing more informative then a good cannabis book is a well read leaf,

Uncle Ben

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#97

burgertime2010 said:
Snake Oil or Not? and Why? 1. Silica 2. Kelp 3.Humic acids 4. Carbohydrates 5.Mycorhizzae 6. Enzymes 7. Flower initiators. 8. Finishers. Do you recommend using just a one-part of is it all just hype and bullshit? We all stand to learn here.

No to all but myco, and then you don't know if you're getting the benefit as the microbes must come out of dormancy and then colonize with the roots' rhizosphere. Regarding humates, peat moss and compost are rich in these acids. Bottom line, if you want a one part solution it's hard to beat DG Foliage Pro. It has everything a plant requires.

UB

Uncle Ben

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#98

HeartlandHank said:
I think for quite a few people the value of the product or what they are getting in return is a feeling. They feel like they have done something good for their plants; And yes, they really have done something good for their plants... but is it results worth $60 a bottle? Probably not. But the results + feeling, to them, is worth $60 a bottle.

If eating a rock makes you feel that it cures your migraines, then eat a rock. The Placebo effect is real, as much as 80% effective. The health food supplement pushers and cannabis snake oil pushers couldn't make it without it.

UB

skunkd0c

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#99

spitsbuds said:
the only thing more informative then a good cannabis book is a well read leaf,

When i was starting out unfortunately i found all of the cannabis grow books to be of little help
while they did have some good general information about cannabis , they were much more tailored towards soil growers
the hydroponic information they did contain i found outdated and misleading, i very much doubt the authors of these books had ever run a successful hydroponic garden themselves
so i would go with the well read leaf anyday

NietzscheKeen

Well-Known Member

#100

Uncle Ben said:
No to all but myco, and then you don't know if you're getting the benefit as the microbes must come out of dormancy and then colonize with the roots' rhizosphere. Regarding humates, peat moss and compost are rich in these acids. Bottom line, if you want a one part solution it's hard to beat DG Foliage Pro. It has everything a plant requires.

UB

Thanks UB.

My friend did her PhD dissertation on myco. Something about how they work... idk. I didn't understand a lot of it. I just know they are good to have around.

And I gotcha HeartlandHank. The only thing I have paid more than 20ish bucks for is Liquid Light because it was recommended by someone I trust.
Other than that, no.
I just can't bring myself to pay $60 for a liter of anything when I'm so used to getting 5 gals of something for the same price. Most of the stuff I buy comes in barrels and it lasts quite a while and I KNOW that it works. Some people think the nute companies are informative because they offer a feeding schedule. Look up some products intended for agriculture sometime; such as POAST PLUS. You literally get a small booklet giving you way more information than you need; and none of it is hype. They don't make promises. It's all fact based on the companies research, etc.

Sorry, I kinda went on another one of my tangents, lol.

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