⚠︎ Brother OneHitDone Gone VERTICAL ⇪

Discussion in 'Vertical Growing' started by OneHitDone, Apr 21, 2016.

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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    It's a time vs heat thing; more heat means less time to dissolve.
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    Not sure I am following what you are saying
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Warm water dissolves nutrient salts faster. Some nutes don't dissolve well in cold water at all.
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    Ok, yes. I saw it on one of the manufacturers' sites as a recommendation for dealing with things falling out of suspension.
    It really stepped up the level of my concentrates.

    What is your experience with silica?

    I am, a bit perplexed by it. I could only find a non pH-neutral version. I add it first, if I pH it before the adding the calmag and nutrients it seems to need a shitload of acid. If I do it after the amount of acid is similar to usual. I would assume this is because some of the shit binds with the nutrients leaving less to be neutralised.

    When do you pH your silica?
     
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    ttystikk

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    I got sick of fighting the pH trainwreck with silica so I quit using it in the res. Instead, try it in a foliar spray where it can do double duty as a powdery mildew preventative.
     
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    ANC

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    Think I will try it, I already have a bunch of bottles with foliar preps in. I feed lightly and foliar any deficiencies until I can adjust feeding nutes enough. Just bumping them up in the root zone normally causes shit.
     
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    gr865

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    I use Silica early, prior to 12/12, when the nute protocol produces a lower pH solution. I use it instead of pH up to raise the pH to the desired level. This has worked for me, I believe the plants that got the treatment produce stronger branching. I used it during my Super Citrus Haze/White Widow grow and was very impressed with the strength of the branches.
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    The supports in the pic were added during the last week of flower and did not need the support prior to that.
    Now this LSD grow I have not used any Silica and my branching is much weaker and have begun falling into the lamps, so netting was required.
    The rates were very low, as I said only to raise the pH to 5.8.

    GR
     
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    ANC

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    Our water is between 7 and 8. something so I need pH down, unfortunately, the form of silica I have pushes it up.
     
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    gr865

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    Yes after I get into Bloom mode I have to use pH down also. As I said I only use it in veg. Not sure what can be used as an alt. pH down.
     
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    gr865

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    ANC you are in South Africa?
    Are you able to travel the continent? Have a friend from Libreville, I think that is in Gabon.
    He says there are plants in central Africa that anyone outside the region have not smoked. He can't go back home, he was busted for cultivation there and left for the states. Would sure like for him to get some seeds, but he is very paranoid, not wanting to get busted here. Real nice guy, loves good smoke an has great stories of his life in Africa.
     
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    OneHitDone

    OneHitDone Well-Known Member

    Most of the Silica Products are Potassium Silicate and will raise ph.
    What I do is add silica, add some acid (once you know the balance - for me its 2ml Silica :1ml Acid)
    Then your water should be back to where it started ph wise and you can add your nutes.
    One thing you guys are missing is silica really pumps up trichome production :hump:
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    We are still far from there, raising 30 mother plants that will be cut into clones.
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    Lol, Gabon is in North Africa.... That's hella far.
     
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    gr865

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    Looking at the map, Africa is huge, and Gabon looks to be right at the big hook on the Atlantic side. I would love to visit Africa. My friend told me any time I wanted to go that his family would put me up, and his brother would take me to get seeds inland. Very tempting, I am not a breeder but would love some good ol' landrace.
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    I'm on the southern tip, it's more like Europe than Africa here.
     
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    ttystikk

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    Keep it up and I'll come visit.
     
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    OneHitDone

    OneHitDone Well-Known Member

    Finally some progress!!
    Veg system is off and running, let the new vertical adventure begin :hump:

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    ANC

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    I know it seems counter intuitive, but having the manifold your final feeding pipes come from, on the floor of the trays, and the holes being on top of it, it allows air to escape and watering to be even.
     
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    OneHitDone

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    Vertical 2.0 Update #1

    Guess I'm a little anxious to get this rolling or something. Thought it had been at least a week but here we are 5 days later.
    Did a little clean up under their skirts and all is looking well and system running flawless thus far.
    First roots just reached the bottom of the jumbo net pot :hump:

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    PKHydro

    PKHydro Well-Known Member

    Looks good man!!
     
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