Balls to the Wall grow, Riddleme Gets Serious

riddleme

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Want to take a few minutes to bring this thread to an end. Current clone in tomato cages grow is now harvested in the chamber, that one 12 inch cola was 31 grams wet, due to the fact that I did the leaf removal experiment I trimmed the buds prior to putting them in the chamber and did not drown em as I am finishing the bottom half of the plants and then intend to reveg em (need some tilders to back cross the new beans to, beans have popped:) I am looking to see what the difference is with trimmed buds in the chamber??? have a feeling it will be more similar to regular drying???

As for the IR experiment? I have already told you that the plants love the heat and that they "wake up" and respond to it every morning, also that it gives you very nice control over temps (and humidity) I can now tell you that the buds nearest the heater were def more dense than those furthest away from it (smoke test comming soon to compare them) Due to the fact that most leaves were either trimmed or lost on this grow I will continue the IR experiment and report further observations as I see em :) But I am very pleased with the one plant that retained its leaves and this gives me hope that the IR will be a helpful addition to my garden, just need to keep watchin it to confirm what I have seen thus far.

I will be starting a new grow journal shortly and as everyone that hangs in my threads knows this thread is done but prolly won't die :) The main purpose of this next grow thread will be to do a side by side of SmokeNgrow nutes versus Jack's I am very much looking forward to this for reasons I can not reveal as of yet :)

I will also be doing that defoliation training experiment as part of this next round, we saw that the removing leaves on the 21st and 45th days of flower was a total waste of time :)

Want to thank every one that followed and contributed to this thread and hope you'll all join me in the next one, I will post a link here once I start it
 

DaveCoulier

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Its been fun following along Riddleme. Congrats on the many successful harvests you had in here.

Im not surprised the defoliated plants didn't turn out well. The whole crux of that defoliation thread is to create short compact plants by defoliation in veg and then reap the 'rewards' in flower, but there are much better ways to create compact plants before flowering that dont involve maiming the plants.
 

kingofqueen

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Well it has been a good tread Riddleme ! Just think of all the people you have helped ! Your doing a side by side with cannanutes and jacks?
I got a side by side going now with Organic nutes versus Jacks . I,m going to run both on this run and get my feet wet with Jacks.
 

cowboylogic

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Its been a pleasure hanging in the shadows and watching this one Riddle, fine work as always. See ya on the next and tell the new Femmed Riddleme hi! lol Happy Trails Pal...........
 

Illumination

New Member
Can't wait for the new thread...I too will be doing a complete smoke n grow versus jack's on a coop grow I just embarked upon...1000 w MH then 1000 w HPS for flower on 4 Barney's Farms Amnesia Lemon...should be interesting...still alot of prep work getting the room ready but shouldn't be long

have really enjoyed this and all your threads...have learned so much it is amazing...thank you and don't be a stranger round here:mrgreen:

See you round x-mas:twisted:

Namaste':leaf:
 

Danielsgb

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Great thread again RM3. You've made me a better grower. Listing your help would clog the end of this thread.:blsmoke: I hope the holidays treat you Kindly:joint:.
I'll be watching for your new experiment.
Danielsbongsmilie
 

greenkrakzak

Active Member
great thread man, got the link from (keep it simple) great leasson on the first few pages, kinda skipped the last 80ish pages tho so i missed abit i guess
++man!
 

Timmahh

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this is a great read, i ll be back a few times thru out my grow. im going to try to mimic your setup in alot of ways, and decided i wanted to go ahead and give the nutes you suggest a grow. this is my first grow, and probably my 5th post here on RIU.

I cant find the Jacks K-Trait. Its not listed on their site. Anyone have an alternative they can suggest?

im going to be getting the 2 Dyna-Gro nutes, but need to figure out what to use for a nice and juicy bloom.
plan to use the molases trick as well near the end.

just looking for a nudge or 2 in some general, this works well direction.

as i noted above, i ll be pretty much using the same products used by riddleme. though instead of ProMix, i may use Dairy-Doo, as they are a local company to me here in Mi, and i like to try to support ANY local manufacturing we have going on. heh.

but anyways, dirt grow, water, CMH 400, setup to be as much on auto pilot as possible as i work out of town m-f.
Thanx for any tips and nudges in the proper direction.
Timmahh
 

riddleme

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few things, I'm a bit stoned so bear with me :)

the K-trait is from thier professional line (different website) I never bought it but ended up using the Peat Lite for the whole grow, worked great, still using it

some strains don't like molasses and too much can lock out N

as for a nudge,,,,read all the links in my sig
 

Timmahh

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great, thanx for the quick reply. i have been reading thru your nuggets and other threads as well over the last few days. much great info, so dont want to overload, so like nutes taking it in gradually. heh.

ok i wondered if that may of been a professional line as i couldnt see those products without signing in, i ll good it better to learn more.
i see in the regular line, they have a classis, but its 16-9-23, would that do well?
sorry for my nubness. just want to get the good info so i can make the right decisions.
i ll google the peat lite too. thanx

i see jacks offers the peat lite in 3 versions. i take it this is the one your referrig to?
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i see they also have this,
24-8-16 [FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro][FONT=Myriad Pro,Myriad Pro]Tropical Foliage, would this be suitable for veg opposed to the dyno-gro, considering i am usually in the 70s low 80s for room indoors? im not in a basement, so will be a bit warmer, and a bit more humid than what you had going on in the tread here. though i will be hoping to control it[/FONT][/FONT]


 

Danielsgb

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I use Jack's Classic 20-20-20 and I love it. I add some organics for a boost as needed, but it's my solid base nutrient. Amazingly a RiddleMe tip. I asked a local nursery for that K-trait but they never did call back.
Daniels
 

Illumination

New Member
this is a great read, i ll be back a few times thru out my grow. im going to try to mimic your setup in alot of ways, and decided i wanted to go ahead and give the nutes you suggest a grow. this is my first grow, and probably my 5th post here on RIU.

I cant find the Jacks K-Trait. Its not listed on their site. Anyone have an alternative they can suggest?

im going to be getting the 2 Dyna-Gro nutes, but need to figure out what to use for a nice and juicy bloom.
plan to use the molases trick as well near the end.

just looking for a nudge or 2 in some general, this works well direction.

as i noted above, i ll be pretty much using the same products used by riddleme. though instead of ProMix, i may use Dairy-Doo, as they are a local company to me here in Mi, and i like to try to support ANY local manufacturing we have going on. heh.

but anyways, dirt grow, water, CMH 400, setup to be as much on auto pilot as possible as i work out of town m-f.
Thanx for any tips and nudges in the proper direction.
Timmahh
foliage pro, Protekt and Magpro is all you need for the entire grow....just mix it according to the ratios needed to conform to the stage of growth...awesome stuff that will make it easy as pie...

Jack's is da bomb as well...as well as smokengrow...check out in my sig...hope it helps

Namaste':leaf:
 

AlteredEgo

Active Member
Wow, Just read this whole thread, took a while, lol. It was great, and confirms my independently discovered theory that "Old Skool" grow/cure methods, and really healthy plants produce sweet bad ass buds, and lots of em! Now to go pick some bluegrass and bong myself to sleep.

B-DeeDee-in the jar-20110301-2314.jpg

Came from this Tropical Sativa:
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This was grown with primarily sunlight through a south facing window, and a 70w HPS, with 6 CFL's
Took forever, made a little over 3 zips, and is a really happy high.
 
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