Balls to the Wall grow, Riddleme Gets Serious

riddleme

riddleme

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What if you saw a post that had a headline like,,,,,,,

From Chop to Done in 4 Days

You would post in that thread and cry outloud BullShit!!!

But folks that is what has happened, I got up this morning checked the chamber and said to myself damn these bitches are almost done and I was thinkin (hopin) it would take longer :) Anyway I cut a small popcorn bud and put it in the pipe (yes right off the stem, no dry time) and was blown away by the taste, the smell, the high all absolutely incredible,,,,these bitches were completely cured in just 3 days (went in monday night, it's thursday night now) and I thought to myself ok dude this fucking cabinet is worth millions :hump:

I PM RMH right away and ask if he can get over here, wanting more opinions I invite one of my patients, I will let RMH tell you his experience in his own words but my patient was thrilled, his first comment was dude you got that taste I like, it's amazing then after 4 hits he says whoa I better quit or I won't be able to drive home :) Then he says hey I'm chopping my one plant this weekend can I bring it over and have you run it thru the chamber, I said of course you can.

I of course did pay a lot of attention to them as this was the first run and it was an experiment and I made a lot of adjustments till I figured out what seemed to be the sweet spot for things but this bitch surppassed even my wildest dreams and literally blew me away! I watched as they ripened, as buds chopped 2 weeks early turned amber in a day, I watched as the consistency of the buds as well as the color changed and then I tasted them and all I can say is WOW and then I got second opinions to verify what I was seeing (and tasting)

Tonight I trimmed em and right now they are getting a final dehumidifying then into the jars they go, which will put them done in 4 days and seriously I'll let RMH share his opinion but IMO I could sell these tomorrow and no one would complain, they are primo, done in 4 days buds,,,,,I think book sales just went up :hump:

enjoy the pics, I'm thinkin there are about 2 oz's here? (I have not wieghed em yet)
 

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sguardians2

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riddleme said:
What if you saw a post that had a headline like,,,,,,,

From Chop to Done in 4 Days

You would post in that thread and cry outloud BullShit!!!

But folks that is what has happened, I got up this morning checked the chamber and said to myself damn these bitches are almost done and I was thinkin (hopin) it would take longer :) Anyway I cut a small popcorn bud and put it in the pipe (yes right off the stem, no dry time) and was blown away by the taste, the smell, the high all absolutely incredible,,,,these bitches were completely cured in just 3 days (went in monday night, it's thursday night now) and I thought to myself ok dude this fucking cabinet is worth millions :hump:

I PM RMH right away and ask if he can get over here, wanting more opinions I invite one of my patients, I will let RMH tell you his experience in his own words but my patient was thrilled, his first comment was dude you got that taste I like, it's amazing then after 4 hits he says whoa I better quit or I won't be able to drive home :) Then he says hey I'm chopping my one plant this weekend can I bring it over and have you run it thru the chamber, I said of course you can.

I of course did pay a lot of attention to them as this was the first run and it was an experiment and I made a lot of adjustments till I figured out what seemed to be the sweet spot for things but this bitch surppassed even my wildest dreams and literally blew me away! I watched as they ripened, as buds chopped 2 weeks early turned amber in a day, I watched as the consistency of the buds as well as the color changed and then I tasted them and all I can say is WOW and then I got second opinions to verify what I was seeing (and tasting)

Tonight I trimmed em and right now they are getting a final dehumidifying then into the jars they go, which will put them done in 4 days and seriously I'll let RMH share his opinion but IMO I could sell these tomorrow and no one would complain, they are primo, done in 4 days buds,,,,,I think book sales just went up :hump:

enjoy the pics, I'm thinkin there are about 2 oz's here? (I have not wieghed em yet)
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Ok, sooo...uhh, where's my copy of your booK?
 
sguardians2

sguardians2

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Oh, and how do I build one of those?

This is an incredible discovery! I'll be looking to design on a dime with that idea in mind, just control temps, humidity and air flow, right?
 
riddleme

riddleme

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sguardians2 said:
Oh, and how do I build one of those?

This is an incredible discovery! I'll be looking to design on a dime with that idea in mind, just control temps, humidity and air flow, right?
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It is a bit more complicated than that, but if you have read my harvesting & curing ditty you could figure it out that's how I did :)
 
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Illumination

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riddleme said:
What if you saw a post that had a headline like,,,,,,,

From Chop to Done in 4 Days

You would post in that thread and cry outloud BullShit!!!

But folks that is what has happened, I got up this morning checked the chamber and said to myself damn these bitches are almost done and I was thinkin (hopin) it would take longer :) Anyway I cut a small popcorn bud and put it in the pipe (yes right off the stem, no dry time) and was blown away by the taste, the smell, the high all absolutely incredible,,,,these bitches were completely cured in just 3 days (went in monday night, it's thursday night now) and I thought to myself ok dude this fucking cabinet is worth millions :hump:

I PM RMH right away and ask if he can get over here, wanting more opinions I invite one of my patients, I will let RMH tell you his experience in his own words but my patient was thrilled, his first comment was dude you got that taste I like, it's amazing then after 4 hits he says whoa I better quit or I won't be able to drive home :) Then he says hey I'm chopping my one plant this weekend can I bring it over and have you run it thru the chamber, I said of course you can.

I of course did pay a lot of attention to them as this was the first run and it was an experiment and I made a lot of adjustments till I figured out what seemed to be the sweet spot for things but this bitch surppassed even my wildest dreams and literally blew me away! I watched as they ripened, as buds chopped 2 weeks early turned amber in a day, I watched as the consistency of the buds as well as the color changed and then I tasted them and all I can say is WOW and then I got second opinions to verify what I was seeing (and tasting)

Tonight I trimmed em and right now they are getting a final dehumidifying then into the jars they go, which will put them done in 4 days and seriously I'll let RMH share his opinion but IMO I could sell these tomorrow and no one would complain, they are primo, done in 4 days buds,,,,,I think book sales just went up :hump:

enjoy the pics, I'm thinkin there are about 2 oz's here? (I have not wieghed em yet)
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Amazing teach!! As sooon as it is published I will gladly buy one...if you sign it....:bigjoint:

Again, I am impressed....
:clap:
Namaste':leaf:
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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:clap:thats crazy riddle! i want one of dem bitches! thats just unbelievable anything that i kno has only dried for 3days taste like shit! might get u high but taste like chloraphyll bad! i cant believe that! even from looking at em u can tell they been cured! once again :clap: ur a genious my man!!
 
ElectricPineapple

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amazing riddle. you are always pushing the boundaries and turning what we know abotu growing upside down for the better. truly a good teacher. havent posted i awhile but i have been around haha.

Keep doing what you are doing, oh and btw im finally in CO. moved here the 18th of september, and LOVE it.
 
Danielsgb

Danielsgb

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From 6-13
Danielsgb said:
Got caught up this morning to reading this. GREAT job. I will have to keep looking at the links cause that's a ton to read:eyesmoke: Since you took the dozens of hours, I'll put in a few till I get it absorbed. Once again
for all the work you put into this. Write a book and I'll buy one. I've read Mel Franks a couple (maybe 3) times, but this clarifies everything more.
Daniels
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Woo Hoo my first customer, better get writin ay?

verifying information is a bitch sometines but I love doing research as I love learnin and understanding things

when I can validate or disprove a myth I get excited cause I know the impact it can have

in the end there is nothing that compares to a labor of love for human happiness

looking forward to your side by side, should be interesting
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So I called the first one.
From 6-13 and I'll drown one now Very soon. :twisted: These with just Jack's 20-20-20 worked great for me.
Daniels:weed:
 
riddleme

riddleme

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ElectricPineapple said:
amazing riddle. you are always pushing the boundaries and turning what we know abotu growing upside down for the better. truly a good teacher. havent posted i awhile but i have been around haha.

Keep doing what you are doing, oh and btw im finally in CO. moved here the 18th of september, and LOVE it.
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Welcome to Colorado! we'll have to get together sometime :)
 
riddleme

riddleme

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Well they are in jars now and when RMH came by yesterday he brought me another bud, he suggested that I hang dry it for comparrison, but I had other ideas :) got it going thru the chamber by itself to see what happens with just one bud (no pile, no composting effect?) I am predicting that it will work but take a bit longer,,,,we'll see?

and my patient will be bringing his on sunday so we will get to do yet another test with another strain to see what happens with it?
 

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rucca

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Love you experiments riddle - the dry/cure chamber reminds me of something I read on burying your harvest in compost.

How long do you drown your plants for prior to harvest and is there any part during the drowning you let them dry and get oxygen to the roots?
 
riddleme

riddleme

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rucca said:
Love you experiments riddle - the dry/cure chamber reminds me of something I read on burying your harvest in compost.

How long do you drown your plants for prior to harvest and is there any part during the drowning you let them dry and get oxygen to the roots?
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Have not done it yet but reports vary, depends on the vigor of the plant and an experiment was just done where an extended dark time seemed to speed up the process (I will confirm when I do mine) you do not want to allow O2 to the roots whole idea is to kill em via drowing to start the fermentation process which the plant will do in an effort to survive
 
WWShadow

WWShadow

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riddleme said:
Well they are in jars now and when RMH came by yesterday he brought me another bud, he suggested that I hang dry it for comparrison, but I had other ideas :) got it going thru the chamber by itself to see what happens with just one bud (no pile, no composting effect?) I am predicting that it will work but take a bit longer,,,,we'll see?

and my patient will be bringing his on sunday so we will get to do yet another test with another strain to see what happens with it?
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two jars? that's it? 2 jars is all that pile amounted to? oh, you guys "sampled" quite a bit of it, didn't you, lol.
you're gonna do a single bud and you expect it to take longer, but then you have another harvest coming sunday to work on..
so my question is will the single bud still dry/cure properly with a loaded shelf or maybe two above/below or above and below(sandwich effect)? perhaps better? faster/slower. Ha ha ha your experimenting is going to generate many questions that you might not want to answer at this time (because it'll be in the book).
2 links down & a few more to go. that first link "take back..." seems to contradict itself on several points in the dry & cure process. If THC is degraded by heat then how do plants survive the summer & still produce herb of any quality? (semi-rehtorical question, lol). I think I figured out how "drowning" would work for Hydro grows.
Take RMH's grow If he wanted to drown his crop whould he simply flood it like a rice field for 7 -10 days? that could be a lot of water for some growers!!
didn't mean to ramble. Definitely glad that you share so much knowledge on the forum.
I definitely want that book when it comes out!!!!
 
riddleme

riddleme

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WWShadow said:
two jars? that's it? 2 jars is all that pile amounted to? oh, you guys "sampled" quite a bit of it, didn't you, lol.
you're gonna do a single bud and you expect it to take longer, but then you have another harvest coming sunday to work on..
so my question is will the single bud still dry/cure properly with a loaded shelf or maybe two above/below or above and below(sandwich effect)? perhaps better? faster/slower. Ha ha ha your experimenting is going to generate many questions that you might not want to answer at this time (because it'll be in the book).
2 links down & a few more to go. that first link "take back..." seems to contradict itself on several points in the dry & cure process. If THC is degraded by heat then how do plants survive the summer & still produce herb of any quality? (semi-rehtorical question, lol). I think I figured out how "drowning" would work for Hydro grows.
Take RMH's grow If he wanted to drown his crop whould he simply flood it like a rice field for 7 -10 days? that could be a lot of water for some growers!!
didn't mean to ramble. Definitely glad that you share so much knowledge on the forum.
I definitely want that book when it comes out!!!!
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Yes it will be interesting for sure as I do have 3 more shelves so adding another harvest on sunday is no big deal and let's us see a "staggered" harvest. And this is ground breaking new territory for harvesting and curing so yes a lot of questions, I will be trying to answer all of em :)
 
rucca

rucca

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riddleme said:
Have not done it yet but reports vary, depends on the vigor of the plant and an experiment was just done where an extended dark time seemed to speed up the process (I will confirm when I do mine) you do not want to allow O2 to the roots whole idea is to kill em via drowing to start the fermentation process which the plant will do in an effort to survive
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Cool - I actually did this with a plant kind of accidently recently. Trying to reveg a plant - I left a few popcorns on it after harvest, trimmed the roots down, put in a party cup, and added some water. Well it looked pretty pathetic the next day so I just lazily stuck it aside in dark corner and forgot about it. Cleaning up the room next week, I discovered the party cup, soil still fairly moist, and the 2 popcorn buds were smokeable - so I smoked them. They weren't as smooth as the nugs I had been jarring, but they were OK. Anyway, it piqued my interest and I will be drowning another soon.
 
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riddleme said:
Have not done it yet but reports vary, depends on the vigor of the plant and an experiment was just done where an extended dark time seemed to speed up the process (I will confirm when I do mine) you do not want to allow O2 to the roots whole idea is to kill em via drowing to start the fermentation process which the plant will do in an effort to survive
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so to drown properly(one must maintain proper etiquette at all times musn't one? :) )
7-10 days before harvest place pot in larger pot, fill with water till the plants soil is totally submerged
2 days(or so?) before harvest, plunge plant into the dark abyss

then at harvest...? do anything different?(assuming no fermentation chamber) dry normally? cure normally?
 
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