The Official Canna Coco & Nutrients Thread

AzCannaMan

Active Member
Right on Az...i read a bit of that article very interesting.... what is bud xl? would it be like pk13/14 just different ratios is it a like a bloom maximizer.. or would it be like botanicares hydroplex (0-10-6)...ive been getting all my info on this thread from jberry and he was saying use the pk13/14 early bloom then goto a pk9/18 later in bloom..He also mentioned shooting powder, moab and great white...any experience with these?
I'd be open to some other H&G products but I havent tried them yet. Great white is Mykos which is great and you need it if you do cloning or transplanting. Havent used MOAB but I've heard good things... Idk im going with the KISS method. Less is more sometimes thats why I like Canna, I dont want to get back to using 30 different things in a grow, its totally uncalled for. IMHO that is - I could be wrong.
 

flipflip2

Member
Ill have to try that out, seems how i still have botanicares line still from switching over i have the berry sweet so i will use that..i also have molasses not sure what would be better....Hey Az do you ever add dolomite lime to your coco? i heard it should be added when first mixing coco and two months after....I have some plants in flower right now coming up at the end of 2nd week and they are all lime green starting to go yellow, its mainly at the top of the plants where the lights hit them more......not too sure what it could be........if you could help me out that would be good thanks a lot........i can put pics up if you want
 

fordy66

Member
was wondering if i can grab some advice from the coco experts? just watered my plants this morning and i noticed small white bugs wriggling around the top of my coco whilst watering, they are about 2- 3mm long, they was not jumping or flicking, seemed like they where disturbed by me watering and was trying to get to cover, any ideas anyone on what i could do to combat/indentify this? im currently searching the web now to see if i can identify these. canna coco, handwater to waste, a&b,cannazym & pk 4 weeks into flower. setup based on this thread, thx in advance for any advice/input. lights off temp 20c rh 50, lights on temp 27.5 rh 45
edit; think these are springtails from what ive managed to find on the web, apparently they wont damage my plants
 

nuckyt

Active Member
HERE IS SOME INFO ON CANNA'S ADDITIVES THAT I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE HAD ON THE FIRST POST OR TWO BUT BETTER LATE THAN NEVER...

CANNA additives are products meant for use alongside the main nutrient.
They are not complete nutrients themselves but a way to complete your nutrients during the different stages in the growing cycle of your crop. They are used to improve plant health and yield.
There are four different additives available, all with their own purpose.



Rhizotonic





Rhizotonic

CANNA RHIZOTONIC is a powerful, algae based, vegetative stimulator for roots of fast-growing plants that already have roots or root initials. RHIZOTONIC stimulates further root development, increases the plant’s resistance to disease and promotes its inner and outer strength.
RHIZOTONIC is 100% natural, and contains multiple vitamins. RHIZOTONIC influences the root environment and is the ideal supplement for the crop environment created by the grower. RHIZOTONIC has a calming effect on plants, and is ideally suited for use when shipping or re-potting plants. RHIZOTONIC will also improve plants that are unhealthy or poorly developed.
RHIZOTONIC can be used regardless of the type of medium. It is suitable for cultivation in potting soil and hydro culture. RHIZOTONIC is often sprayed on leaves and can be used as a simple means for raising the pH level in fertilizer tanks.
Root stimulant

RHIZOTONIC adds more than 60 microbiological substances that considerably speeds up the growth of a balanced root environment. Various trace elements and vitamins such as B1&B2 have been added to RHIZOTONIC in to stimulate the plant production of hormones and root growth, thus providing better and stronger roots.
Vital plants

Good results start with a healthy plant. There are many different ways of stimulating plants aside from a healthy balance of EC levels, acidity, temperature, air and light. RHIZOTONIC does so during and in the rooting and growing phase. Another important element in RHIZOTONIC is the root-strengthening hormone Oligosaccharide. Scientifi c research has shown its benefi cial effect in the creation of root cells without any negative side effects. Your plants will be certain to get beautiful, strong white roots with RHIZOTONIC.
Benefits of CANNA Rhizotonic:

• Aids in the immediate generation of lush, new root growth on cuttings and transplants.
• When used as a seed soak prior to planting, it will speed up the germination process.
• Enhances overall plant growth and chemical reactions in the plant to ensure a healthier, powerful and stronger plant.
• Aids in the recovery process of any plant or cutting that has been subjected to stress in any way whatsoever.










PK 13/14






PK 13/14

INCREASES YIELDS

CANNA PK 13/14 is a mixture of top quality nutritional minerals that stimulate flowering. This product has been developed for the flowering phase of fast growing plants. PK 13/14 is easy to use and high yields are easily achieved.
PURE ELEMENTS TO STIMULATE FLOWERING

PK 13/14 is a high grade mixture of phosphorus and potassium that is added during the flowering phase. Both elements play a big role during the flowering phase of fast growing plants. Thanks to a special production process CANNA has succeeded in combining pure phosphorous and potassium in very high concentrations and this makes PK 13/14 available to the plant quickly and directly.
Phosphorous (P) is a major nutritional element for every plant. It plays a key role in metabolism and energy transfer. Extra phosphorous is needed in the flowering phase. Phosphorous strengthens cell formation in flowers among other things.
Potassium (K) is found throughout the plant and is necessary for a lot of its activities. It is essential for transporting water and nutrition (sieve vessels) and it is responsible for the plant’s quality and rigidity. In addition to this it controls countless other processes such as sugar production. Potassium ensures that the plant can produce enough sugars during flowering, which are essential for the development of the flowers.
LAVISH FLOWERING

There comes a moment during the plant’s development when the need for phosphorous and potassium increases greatly. If CANNA PK 13/14 is given at this moment you will satisfy the flowering plant’s increased needs and the fruits will achieve maximum development. CANNA BOOST enhances the metabolism and has a strengthening effect on PK 13/14. This perfect combination will cause the plant to fl ower more lavishly.
SUITABLE FOR EVERY MEDIUM

PK 13/14 is used with every medium and consequently it is used for cultivation on soil, in recirculatory systems, when cultivating on coco and in run-to-waste systems. PK 13/14 is suitable for use when cultivating both indoors and outdoors. When Canna began sales in North America, PK 13/14 used the standard European way of expressing percentages of the nutrients in fertilizer as volume/ volume (milliliters/ liter). It was after arriving on the shelf in NA that we had to change to the North American convention of using Mass/ mass (milligrams/ kilograms). So, to satisfy the regulatory powers, we are required to state the mass percentages of the contents of PK thus the additional numbers 0 - 10 - 11. Same fine product, just a different way of stating the percentages of the nutrients as 0 - 10 - 11 in mass percentages is exactly the same as 0 - 13 - 14 in volume percentages.


Cannazym





Cannazym

CANNAZYM is a high-quality enzyme product. It consists of more than 12 different kinds of enzymes to which vitamins and extracts of desert plants are added. CANNAZYM speeds up the process of breaking down dead root material and activates the micro-organisms. In addition to this, CANNAZYM facilitates the improved absorption of nutrients and increases the resistance against pathogenic organisms.
The threat

In a root system that functions well, roots die and new roots are formed. The remains of roots that died form an ideal growing substrate for pathogenic organisms. After the pathogenic moulds have multiplied in the dead root material, they are a threat to the healthy roots. These are easily affected, and will lose an important part of their function. This causes stress to the entire plant and stunts any new growth.
How does CANNAZYM work?

Enzymes are substances that speed up the reactions in living organisms. (Example: enzymes play a vital role in our digestion).
The enzymes in CANNAZYM facilitate fast conversion of dead roots into minerals and sugars. This is important, as they make up a valuable source of nutrients for the plant as well as for the soil environment. A fast breakdown of root remains creates a balanced air and soil hydrology in the root environment. Furthermore, putrefaction and consequently the formation of toxic substances are prevented and the risk of an infection by pathogenic moulds is considerably reduced. This is ideal for your plant. The soil environment is improved, as the minerals and sugars that are formed as a result of using CANNAZYM, are important for the bacteria located close to the roots. These bacteria provide the plant with extra protection against diseases that are caused by moulds and facilitate the exchange nutrients and vitamins with the roots. This results in improved balance and an increased absorption capacity.
Increased health

CANNAZYM contains several easy-to-absorb vitamins that stimulate the plant to form new roots. A well-developed root system uses of a lot of young growing-points. Elements like calcium, magnesium and iron are absorbed exactly by these growing-points. Furthermore, a substance that has been isolated from desert plants has been added to CANNAZYM, as a result of which the plant’s natural defence system will be improved. Activation of the defence system of the plant increases the protection against pathogenic organisms. A defence system that functions optimally allows the plant to react quickly against an imminent attack; eventual damage will be prevented or limited.
The above-mentioned information also explains why CANNAZYM is indispensable with the reuse of growing substrates; the root remains will be rapidly broken down and transformed into advantageous nutrients; infections will be prevented and the air/water relation in the root environment will be improved.



CANNABOOST





CANNABOOST

FULLER, HARDER FRUITS

CANNABOOST is CANNA’s powerful flowering stimulator. Specially developed for fast growing plants, it improves quality and increases yields. CANNABOOST stimulates the development of newly formed flowers which ultimately results in fuller fruits. This also leads to a more homogeneous harvest because the fruits mature evenly. Something very special about CANNABOOST is that it does not only assure excellent yields, but also better taste, a little something extra for the CANNA grower.
SUITABLE FOR EVERY SUBSTRATE

CANNABOOST is a universal flowering stimulant; this means it can be used in every cultivation system and in combination with every kind of feeding without exception. Originally designed for tank mixing with the nutrient solution, CANNBOOST can also be used as a foliar spray. The advantage of this is that the plant can absorb this flowering stimulant directly through the leaves.
COMBINES PERFECTLY WITH PK 13/14

CANNABOOST increases the plant’s photosynthesis. This increase assures that fruits form more quickly, so the availability of nutrients is very important for achieving optimum results with CANNABOOST. CANNA feeding guarantees the availability of all these nutrients, PK13/14 added to the CANNA feeding provide even better results. This is because PK 13/14 provides the plant with extra flowering elements while CANNABOOST assures the plant has the energy to utilize these elements.
BETTER MATURING AND PROTECTION

CANNABOOST contains flowering compounds that assure the plant matures to its full potential. It also holds natural flowering regulators that better distribute both stimulants in the booster itself, as well as flowering substances and energy naturally available in the plant. This enables the fruits to develop more uniformly and to mature to their full potential. Thanks to the improved energy regulation, the plant also has sufficient energy available to resist pathogens. If energy is lacking when and where it is needed, then disease will often strike usually when it will be most disastrous for the harvest.
BETTER, STRONGER TASTE

A successful and good harvest is not only judged on quantities nowadays. Quality is starting to play an even more important role and taste is one of the indicators for it. CANNABOOST does not just assure higher yields, but also excellent flavor. It encourages the photosynthesis process within the plant, which increases sugar production in the fruits. This gives a much sweeter taste and enhances the concentration of natural flavors being produced by the plant itself.
Ive seen some great grows in coco but didnt know anything about it. Thanks for all the useful info!:clap:
 

AzCannaMan

Active Member
Ill have to try that out, seems how i still have botanicares line still from switching over i have the berry sweet so i will use that..i also have molasses not sure what would be better....Hey Az do you ever add dolomite lime to your coco? i heard it should be added when first mixing coco and two months after....I have some plants in flower right now coming up at the end of 2nd week and they are all lime green starting to go yellow, its mainly at the top of the plants where the lights hit them more......not too sure what it could be........if you could help me out that would be good thanks a lot........i can put pics up if you want
New growth? Not sure, post up pics.

was wondering if i can grab some advice from the coco experts? just watered my plants this morning and i noticed small white bugs wriggling around the top of my coco whilst watering, they are about 2- 3mm long, they was not jumping or flicking, seemed like they where disturbed by me watering and was trying to get to cover, any ideas anyone on what i could do to combat/indentify this? im currently searching the web now to see if i can identify these. canna coco, handwater to waste, a&b,cannazym & pk 4 weeks into flower. setup based on this thread, thx in advance for any advice/input. lights off temp 20c rh 50, lights on temp 27.5 rh 45
edit; think these are springtails from what ive managed to find on the web, apparently they wont damage my plants
If I were you I would be freaking out and watering them with Azamax or Azatrol (same shit) ASAP!
 

AzCannaMan

Active Member
Ill have to try that out, seems how i still have botanicares line still from switching over i have the berry sweet so i will use that..i also have molasses not sure what would be better....Hey Az do you ever add dolomite lime to your coco? i heard it should be added when first mixing coco and two months after....I have some plants in flower right now coming up at the end of 2nd week and they are all lime green starting to go yellow, its mainly at the top of the plants where the lights hit them more......not too sure what it could be........if you could help me out that would be good thanks a lot........i can put pics up if you want
New growth? Not sure, post up pics.

was wondering if i can grab some advice from the coco experts? just watered my plants this morning and i noticed small white bugs wriggling around the top of my coco whilst watering, they are about 2- 3mm long, they was not jumping or flicking, seemed like they where disturbed by me watering and was trying to get to cover, any ideas anyone on what i could do to combat/indentify this? im currently searching the web now to see if i can identify these. canna coco, handwater to waste, a&b,cannazym & pk 4 weeks into flower. setup based on this thread, thx in advance for any advice/input. lights off temp 20c rh 50, lights on temp 27.5 rh 45
edit; think these are springtails from what ive managed to find on the web, apparently they wont damage my plants
If I were you I would be freaking out and watering them with Azamax or Azatrol (same shit) ASAP!
 

OGEvilgenius

Well-Known Member
Love Canna Coco. Their nutes are way overpriced however. I'm pretty sure they manufacture them in Europe, which pretty much explains why. Shipping is a bitch.
 

AzCannaMan

Active Member
Love Canna Coco. Their nutes are way overpriced however. I'm pretty sure they manufacture them in Europe, which pretty much explains why. Shipping is a bitch.
Yup, made in the Netherlands. It would be super cheap if it weren't for the damn shipping around the planet! Although not cheap by any means, I dont feel they are overpriced though. I feel like you get a super quality nute for... well you get what you pay for in this instance. Which my experience in like has proven to me it does not happen all that often.

Now AN is super overpriced lol
 

OGEvilgenius

Well-Known Member
Yup, made in the Netherlands. It would be super cheap if it weren't for the damn shipping around the planet! Although not cheap by any means, I dont feel they are overpriced though. I feel like you get a super quality nute for... well you get what you pay for in this instance. Which my experience in like has proven to me it does not happen all that often.

Now AN is super overpriced lol
Quite a few good solutions out there that are cheaper on this side of the world. If I lived in Europe I'd probably stick with Canna, maybe Ionic.
 

AzCannaMan

Active Member
No but I like the sounds of it. What's a better equivalent? I dont like Dyna Grow or AN & I'll willing to pay for better stuff than Jacks Classic or any of the super cheap generic basic stuff.
 

flipflip2

Member
yo heres the pics...the tops are pretty much yellow, hard to tell in the pics but all yellow up top green down below....please help!!!! its been a never ending battle ...plants always seem to go yellow prematurely in flower2012 019.jpg2012 020.jpg2012 021.jpg
 

AzCannaMan

Active Member
yo heres the pics...the tops are pretty much yellow, hard to tell in the pics but all yellow up top green down below....please help!!!! its been a never ending battle ...plants always seem to go yellow prematurely in flowerView attachment 2362437View attachment 2362438View attachment 2362439
Have you looked at any sick plant guides? Find a good one with pics and go from there, I would give you the answer if I had it. Thats the best I can do for you w/o guessing what your problem is. I'm adadmitedly not enough of a seasoned vet to just look at a sick plant and know exactly what it needs. I wish, thats part of why I use Canna. No issues yet with it...
 

Walindour

Member
Lookin fantastic.

You know anything about Blumat autowatering?
I run Blumats in Coco and love them. I just switched to coco and I'm on my second run ATM but the Blumats are solid and foolproof after getting them dialed in. I am a newbie here but have been digesting this Canna thread for days now. Lots of crucial info here - thanks peeps.
 

jela10

Well-Known Member
Just got a free sample of BIORHIZOTONIC from a hydro store. I'm an avid user of regular Rhizotonic in my coco hempy grows so I have to wonder... has anybody used this in a hydro environment? Is Canna moving to this as a replacement for regular Rhizo? The sales person told me it worked the same just takes a couple of days to become effective.....it's the "BIO" prefix that has my antenna's up.....sounds more like a soil additive.
 

AzCannaMan

Active Member
Just got a free sample of BIORHIZOTONIC from a hydro store. I'm an avid user of regular Rhizotonic in my coco hempy grows so I have to wonder... has anybody used this in a hydro environment? Is Canna moving to this as a replacement for regular Rhizo? The sales person told me it worked the same just takes a couple of days to become effective.....it's the "BIO" prefix that has my antenna's up.....sounds more like a soil additive.
It's their organic Rhizo. I've used it (in soil though) didnt notice any difference. I went back to regular Rhizo.

I think I recall reading you shouldnt mix Chem ferts and organic ones anyway as they are taken up in different ways by the plant. The Bio Rhizo goes with the rest of their organic Bio lineup out now.
 

AzCannaMan

Active Member
I run Blumats in Coco and love them. I just switched to coco and I'm on my second run ATM but the Blumats are solid and foolproof after getting them dialed in. I am a newbie here but have been digesting this Canna thread for days now. Lots of crucial info here - thanks peeps.
You must be in Europe, im guessing UK. Man you guys get all the cool watering shits, Autopots, Blumats, etc. Neither available stateside :(
 
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