Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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Uncle Ben

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Keeping everything you said constant/as is, if I topped above the 3rd node instead of above the 2nd, would I get 6-8 colas instead of 4?
This thread is about getting 2 or 4 dominant colas based on the principle of apical dominance. It is about getting 4 MAIN (dominant not recessive) colas that are almost as heavy as the typical unpruned one.

UB
 

SIRE

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whats going on uncle ben i want u to know everythings well with my babies. i have 3 cindy99, 1 bubba kush, and 1 nebula. one of my cindy99 is twins have u ever heard of that? and secondly when and how do u pinch. and do u do this before before topping?
 

PANGcake

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whats going on uncle ben i want u to know everythings well with my babies. i have 3 cindy99, 1 bubba kush, and 1 nebula. one of my cindy99 is twins have u ever heard of that? and secondly when and how do u pinch. and do u do this before before topping?
First of all, I'm baked, second isn't pinching just doing the topping but using ur fingers, "pinch the top of"? I'm pretty sure, but even the Sun has it's spots! ;)
 

Afka

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If you don't know or understand what you're doing, DON'T DO IT.

Read more, until you understand why you're doing something, instead of doing it (possibly wrong) for no reason other than someone said so.
 

Pipe Dream

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This thread is about getting 2 or 4 dominant colas based on the principle of apical dominance. It is about getting 4 MAIN (dominant not recessive) colas that are almost as heavy as the typical unpruned one.

UB
is it essential to let the plant grow a few nodes before topping to get the right hormone distribution or would topping the 3rd node when it grows produce the same result?
 

jjfoo

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is it essential to let the plant grow a few nodes before topping to get the right hormone distribution or would topping the 3rd node when it grows produce the same result?

have you read the first post on this thread?

this is from the post

"let your seedling or cutting (clone) grow to about 5-6 nodes"

do a little research and you will find most of your questions are addressed in the first page
 

riddleme

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is it essential to let the plant grow a few nodes before topping to get the right hormone distribution or would topping the 3rd node when it grows produce the same result?
It is essential for the plant to be mature enough to handle the stress without stunting growth
 

Pipe Dream

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well damn that's why I asked I just figured it out earlier and didn't realize the importance of what he meant by main tops until I read the post where he said dominate tops. I just happend to do this by accident but just wanted to verify. I know it was kind of a stupid question...
 

SIRE

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i thought on one hand u pinch to manage the height on certain strains like sativas and topping was to create the colas? i was asking do u do both and when can u start pinching
 

Sakca

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i thought on one hand u pinch to manage the height on certain strains like sativas and topping was to create the colas? i was asking do u do both and when can u start pinching
The pinching is a technique also means SUPER CROPPING a term for when you scale from the canopy/top of UR own plant and go down 4 nodes and make an injury to make it bend so the whole- still attached top part is going to be stunned and lets the responsive branches grow and the top just rises eventually to the light and thickens; a bit where's "super cropped/PINCHED":weed:

An it just a quick LSTing (LowStressTrain) technique.

-Sakca
 
I have a question thats more related to resizing a plant than to getting the extra colas, i have a mother plant thats about 8 months old and like 7' tall!!. I made a rookie mistake of putting it in a 7 gallon pot thinking it was gonna grow to around 5' but when i realized it was gonna match Yao Ming it was already too late, now i have the "penthouse" very heat stressed cuz their so close to the light and no tenants on the 1st and 2nd floor cuz the light doesnt penetrate that far, im still able to get a lot of very healthy cuttings from the middle but this is starting to become a problem cuz the lady just wont stop growing and pretty soon its gonna hit the ceiling so....

what r my options here?

tx
 

ElectricPineapple

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ok, ive searched your thread on your topping technique, but i want to know is how much does the act of getting 4 colas increase yield versus one. its my understanding that the energy the plant would have used for that one single cola would just be redistributed to the 4 colas, only increasing yield a little bit. some one in another thread in which we were discussing your technique said it double the yield per plant. is this accurate? if it is then im definitely topping all of them. but if not them im only going to top a few to compare.

pine
 

Mr.Sativa

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Shoot, got a rokkie question. If i have cloned cuttings, how can i find out the second true node? Since i have only alternating leaves?

legalize!! =)
 

DaveCoulier

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ok, ive searched your thread on your topping technique, but i want to know is how much does the act of getting 4 colas increase yield versus one. its my understanding that the energy the plant would have used for that one single cola would just be redistributed to the 4 colas, only increasing yield a little bit. some one in another thread in which we were discussing your technique said it double the yield per plant. is this accurate? if it is then im definitely topping all of them. but if not them im only going to top a few to compare.

pine
When you stop and think about it, that just doesn't make a lot of sense(part I made bold).

The plant is going to put as much resources into reproducing, so why would it not maximize its chances by filling out 4 nice colas?

I doubt the plant remembers it only had one main cola, and therefor must allocate resources used for that equally among for new colas. I just dont see that happening.

I dont have alot of harvests in using topping, but on my first try leaving a plant untopped it yielded 5 grams less vs the topped plants. Even my ugliest, unhealthiest two topper yielded just as much as the untopped healthy plant.

Ive got 3 more plants drying out right now that were left untopped, and I can tell they would have yielded alot more hand I topped them. Now that my little experiment is done, Ill be topping from now on.

Shoot, got a rokkie question. If i have cloned cuttings, how can i find out the second true node? Since i have only alternating leaves?

legalize!! =)
Just look at the bottom of the clone, and count upwards each time you see a set of alternating branches. Right above the second set is where you would top to _try_ and get 4 tops. Results may not be consistent since they are clones.
 

Pipe Dream

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I have a question thats more related to resizing a plant than to getting the extra colas, i have a mother plant thats about 8 months old and like 7' tall!!. I made a rookie mistake of putting it in a 7 gallon pot thinking it was gonna grow to around 5' but when i realized it was gonna match Yao Ming it was already too late, now i have the "penthouse" very heat stressed cuz their so close to the light and no tenants on the 1st and 2nd floor cuz the light doesnt penetrate that far, im still able to get a lot of very healthy cuttings from the middle but this is starting to become a problem cuz the lady just wont stop growing and pretty soon its gonna hit the ceiling so....

what r my options here?

tx
hey man just get some clones from her and raise those up to be your new mommas. One those are big enough to top just chop that huge girl down to size and if she dies you got replacement mommas if she doesn't do whatever you want. Or you could just kill her at that point. Vegging mommas don't necesarily need a lot of light maybe you could get some cfls or something just for her so the rest of your plants could benefit from the more intense light. Or just kinda put her in a corner where she gets less intense light.
 

ElectricPineapple

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exactly. and it does the same with one cols. just because it now has 4 colas, other thatn being bushier and having more leaves would effect its energy level. what im saying is that is do the 4 cola's get as big the the cola if it had one if they did then i see the yield increase. im not dissing ths technique just trying to understand the increase of yield a little bit more.
 

Uncle Ben

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uncle ben

i am about to grow 40 plants in botanical brothers pots and i have done your topping tec but i wanted to ask you about does lights that are out right now there called sun pulse spinner what is your take on them
I have no take on them.
 
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